Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 Wow, I’m surprised the Ravens didn’t go for it on 4th and 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo Junction said: Let’s be honest though. The Ravens don’t utilize the position effectively. This whole debate existed when Roman was calling plays with Watkins and Woods. I don’t think that getting the ball to recievers on the outside of the field is what Lamar does well. I noticed this last week too. He throws passes to the middle of the field really well and has since college. That’s why the TE’s are so important in this offense as PSE catchers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, jrober38 said: Agreed. Brown and Snead do next to nothing for me. Past that they have absolutely nothing. They're loaded at tight end, but I think they could use a major upgrade at WR. The Ravens have been trying to rehab their WR group for as long as I can remember. Drafted Breshaud perriman in the 1st (bust), marquise brown in the 1st, signed Crabtree in FA (gone), Jeremy Maclin (FA bust), mike Wallace etc etc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, SCBills said: Lamar Jackson is a beast right now but why would any top WR ever want to go there? They run a lot. They don’t go over the top. They rarely throw to the sideline. All your routes are hard hitting slot routes/crossers in the middle of the field. Well, Marquise Brown just took some punishment for those catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said: Let’s be honest though. The Ravens don’t utilize the position effectively. This whole debate existed when Roman was calling plays with Watkins and Woods. I think that was an EJ Manuel/Tyrod Taylor problem. With Kyle Orton under centre, Watkins was actually super productive under Greg Roman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Lamar Jackson is a beast right now but why would any top WR ever want to go there? They run a lot. They don’t go over the top. They rarely throw to the sideline. All your routes are hard hitting slot routes/crossers in the middle of the field. Depends on the receiver. Someone like AJ Green would probably be happy to go there and have a shot at playoffs or more. Mentor the young guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, Phil The Thrill said: I don’t think that getting the ball to recievers on the outside of the field is what Lamar does well. I noticed this last week too. He throws passes to the middle of the field really well and has since college. That’s why the TE’s are so important in this offense as PSE catchers IIRC I think you were the one who looked at the passing chart I posted for Lamar last week and pointed out how effectively the Bills D took the middle of the field away from him? I can’t find a passing chart that’s cumulative but I think you’re right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: The Ravens have been trying to rehab their WR group for as long as I can remember. Drafted Breshaud perriman in the 1st (bust), marquise brown in the 1st, signed Crabtree in FA (gone), Jeremy Maclin (FA bust), mike Wallace etc etc Signed and let Smoke go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Lamar Jackson is a beast right now but why would any top WR ever want to go there? They run a lot. They don’t go over the top. They rarely throw to the sideline. All your routes are hard hitting slot routes/crossers in the middle of the field. That was a knock on him coming out of college. They don’t have throw to the sideline because he doesn’t hit those passes very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: By their scheme, Lamar is asked to make only 1 read from the pocket. That's what it looks like to me. Count the number of times a game its more than 1. Doesn't this matter in your QBs development? To be fair I haven't watched every single Ravens game but judging by the ones I have and what I know about Roman I would guess that this is generally the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Useless Jets better not win this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, jrober38 said: I think that was an EJ Manuel/Tyrod Taylor problem. With Kyle Orton under centre, Watkins was actually super productive under Greg Roman. Roman wasn’t here with Orton. That was marrone/Lil Nate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: Lamar Jackson is a beast right now but why would any top WR ever want to go there? They run a lot. They don’t go over the top. They rarely throw to the sideline. All your routes are hard hitting slot routes/crossers in the middle of the field. You have to compete with tight ends for targets. You are asked to block alllll the time. I agree, a veteran receiver probably wouldn't want to go there, but I think we'll all underestimate how much NFL players would want to go play with the reigning MVP in an offense that scores as many points as they do. The guys they'd attract would be the type of high character guys that you'd want your team to go after. High maintenance divas wouldn't want anything to do with it, but I don't think those are the type of guys who help you win games anyways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Darnold fumble 3 2 1. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 I covet us having a big guy who would go up and get that pass like Robby Anderson just did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 That's 3 games in a row, Ravens D gets a sack fumble inside opponents 25. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: IIRC I think you were the one who looked at the passing chart I posted for Lamar last week and pointed out how effectively the Bills D took the middle of the field away from him? I can’t find a passing chart that’s cumulative but I think you’re right. That’s why I was impressed with the Bills defense to take out the running game. And yes, despite what some analysts said - the Bills did limit Lamar all around. If you take away the blown coverage on the 61 yard touchdown and the shorted field where they started at the 21 yard line. They held the Ravens to only one sustained TD drive which was helped out by a bad punt at the 49 yard line. If you can somehow bottle up the Baltimore ground game (big “if) , I don’t think he’s able to win the game with his arm. We might see this play out in a few weeks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Useless Jets better not win this game The Jets would appear to agree with you ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Costly fumble. I cringe every time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 He got crushed... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Ya hate to see it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Dopey said: Then they would play 3 days later. Unless they get another bye. If the nfl went to a longer season with 2 bye weeks, maybe. You have a mistake in your logic example below: 11-3 - play Sunday Game 11-10 - Bye week 11-14 - play Thursday night game (10 day rest) 11-17 - off due to playing Thursday 11-24 - play on next Sunday (9 days rest) It extends the bye week, and catches no team on a short week. Teams playing on Thursday should be coming off of a bye week. 4 teams are off on any bye week, shouldn't be too hard to figure out. Make it 2 AFC teams and 2 NFC teams in the divisions playing against each other. Lets say the AFC East plays NFC East Then 2 teams from AFC East and 2 teams from NFC East share the bye week. one pairing plays on Thursday, the other play oon the 11-17 weekend above having a full bye week both share the same time off, and can ramp back up vs the league with extra rest win-win This is simple analytics that catches no team short handed Edited December 13, 2019 by RocCityRoller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Oh, Jets are Bad bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 Wait, is it legal for an OLman to slam a rushing defender in the back and knock him to the ground like that Just now, YoloinOhio said: Oh, Jets are Bad bad Yeah, when the Ravens revved their motors and came for him, Darnold suddenly didn’t look so great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Roman wasn’t here with Orton. That was marrone/Lil Nate Whoops. For some reason I thought they were both here in 2015. Sammy still had a great season. 60 catches for over 1,000 yards in 13 games. Somehow we were 12th in offensive scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: I don’t think that getting the ball to recievers on the outside of the field is what Lamar does well. I noticed this last week too. He throws passes to the middle of the field really well and has since college. That’s why the TE’s are so important in this offense as PSE catchers It might be, but I don’t recall the outside WRs doing much with Roman here until Watkins called out Tyrod and he started throwing up 50/50 balls. ICBW though. 3 minutes ago, jrober38 said: I think that was an EJ Manuel/Tyrod Taylor problem. With Kyle Orton under centre, Watkins was actually super productive under Greg Roman. That was The MORON with Hackett. Orton retired before the Rex/Roman offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Overthrows incoming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Brown with just enough separation there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: That’s why I was impressed with the Bills defense to take out the running game. And yes, despite what some analysts said - the Bills did limit Lamar all around. If you take away the blown coverage on the 61 yard touchdown and the shorted field where they started at the 21 yard line. They held the Ravens to only one sustained TD drive which was helped out by a bad punt at the 49 yard line. If you can somehow bottle up the Baltimore ground game (big “if) , I don’t think he’s able to win the game with his arm. We might see this play out in a few weeks That blown coverage long TD took away all the respect they could’ve earned with that defensive effort. It gave Lamar stats, a third TD and a highlight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, Big Blitz said: Brown with just enough separation there. Nice having receivers make those contested catches 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Harbaugh is brilliant. He knows he has this game in the bank (he has the FG to go up 17) so he has Jackson throw back to back deep passes down the middle. It's all about putting these plays on tape. The Ravens don't want folks putting their safeties in the box. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, SCBills said: That blown coverage long TD took away all the respect they could’ve earned with that defensive effort. It gave Lamar stats, a third TD and a highlight. Only to boxscore scouts. People who know football know that blown coverages happen. They also know that the bills took care of business against the Ravens better than any other team has. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: Harbaugh is brilliant. He knows he has this game in the bank (he has the FG to go up 17) so he has Jackson throw back to back deep passes down the middle. It's all about putting these plays on tape. The Ravens don't want folks putting their safeties in the box. There aren’t many teams that can pull it off for most of the game. We did. Pats did. Pit did. SF did. That really it. Gonna be fun to see them duplicate this against teams a second time Edited December 13, 2019 by Buffalo Junction Correcting AutoCorrect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) Sammy boy starting to look a little shook up... Not physically, but mentally. Edited December 13, 2019 by whatdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: Sammy boy starting to look a little shook up... Not physically, but mentally. Well, he doesn’t look as sharp or accurate with pressure in his face, now does he? As for physically, he has taken several shots now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Imagine thinking this was a good matchup for national tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well, he doesn’t look as sharp or accurate with pressure in his face, now does he Funny how that works ain't it? It's almost like the closer the pass rusher gets to the QB the poorer the pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Darnold sees dead people 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, Dablitzkrieg said: Imagine thinking this was a good matchup for national tv It’s colorful, anyway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well, he doesn’t look as sharp or accurate with pressure in his face, now does he? As for physically, he has taken several shots now But I had it on good authority that he was just taking apart the Ravens defense and they were doing exactly what they did to Allen but Darnold just said: "NO I will beat you because I am far far superior to Josh Allen!" And he took control, played a game that goes right to his hall of fame montage, and rode off into the sunset with his mono laden harem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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