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Everyone loves a good dumpster fire, so of course Dallas is in the spotlight.  Also remember the Bills have been the face of medioric futility for decades.  It's going to take more time and effort to change people's minds outside of our fan base.  Yesterday went a long way to getting there, but to many it's still the Buffalo Bills.

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3 hours ago, Direhard Fan said:

Romo is terrible.  Talks way to much.  Loves Dallas.  The announcers were disrespectful.  Pre game show every one picked Dallas.  Half time had nothing to say.  I loved every minute of it.  It's been a long time.

I disagree....Romo is very good...can't think of a better color analyst right now....and considering his entire career was with Dallas, I expected a lot more lopsided comments.. ..he actually wasn't as much as a cheerleader as I thought he would be.....he obviously like Dallas but was fair to the Bills....

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4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Last week when Gore hit his milestone, the announcers during the afternoon Pats game were all prosing on about Gronk - GRONK!  as the "player of the week"

Only one of them manned up and said "how about some love for Frank Gore?" and mentioned his milestone game, and it was kind of rushed through with a quick flash of a graphic before the got back to Gronk.

 

I'm sorry, but when it becomes all about a guy on the announcing crew who is no longer playing, over a genuine milestone for a HOF player, that's just WRONG.

  FOX Sports coverage such as their pregame show is nothing but a clown show aimed at 12 year old wannabe hipsters in my mind.  I could craft better pregame and postgame coverage and could draw a sizable audience to boot.

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3 hours ago, NickelCity said:

Coverage wouldn't focus on us even if we won the Superbowl. Eff it.

 

I swear you are right here.  It would be all about how the other team let it slip away.  (Eff it)x2

 

39 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said:

Stephen A Smith gave credit to the bills as well as one of his co hosts. The other co-host was a little wishy-washy he blamed dallas deficiencies but also recognized bills.

 

An obviously 'feeling no pain' Steven Aposted this last night

"Josh Allen, some second year QB, rolled into JerryWorld looking like the second coming of Joe Montana...excuse me, Lamar Jackson....How "bout them cowboys?"

 

It ain't exactly respect, but it is pretty funny

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Sports Illustrated MMQB features an article about "Takeaways From the NFL on Thanksgiving."  Josh Allen and the Bills are each referenced once in the subhead, but the body of the article makes no mention of any Bills player, and the only reference to the team is one use of the words "the Bills" is in a link to the game stats.   

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/11/29/nfl-thanksgiving-day-games-bears-lions-bills-cowboys-saints-falcons

 

 

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I was listening to Vince Ferragamo interviewed on the radio this morning (I live in Los Angeles, and he gets interviewed frequently). When they asked him about yesterday's games, he talked about the Bears, and Lions, then about the Saints, and Falcons, and then about the Cowboys. He literally did not even mention the Bills, by name, or a single Bills player, AT ALL. I was swearing at the radio, but at the same time, I just gotta laugh.

 

 

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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bills-at-cowboys-final-score-josh-allen-dismantles-dallas-buffalo-stymies-dak-prescott-in-convincing-win/live/
 

Bills at Cowboys final score: Josh Allen dismantles Dallas, Buffalo stymies Dak Prescott in convincing win

 

The Bills went into Dallas on Thanksgiving and thoroughly dominated the Cowboys in every facet of the game
 

Maybe we've been undervaluing this Bills team through the first 12 weeks of the season. Even after they raced out to an 8-3 start, they weren't considered a legitimate Super Bowl contender -- partly because they're unlikely to steal the division crown away from the Patriots, which will force them to enter the playoffs as a wild card team and thus, spend January away from home; and partly because their quarterback has been considered by many (including me) to be a liability. ....

6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

The GMFB crew loves the Bills. I have a theory on it. The Bills are the trendiest fan base because of social media. We come across as “cool.” Our fans, players, quirks, etc... all make us connect with that generation. I’m 38 and kind of on the edge of that age but I think if you are between like 16-40 you kind of love us. You love our passion and energy. If you are Bill Cowher or Boomer you just don’t “get it.” If you notice the people that love us they are all in that sort of age bracket (Schein, GMFB, Michael Robinson, etc). 


FWIW.  After the Bills lost to Cleveland they went sour on the Bills. 
 

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2 hours ago, Robert James said:

Sports Illustrated MMQB features an article about "Takeaways From the NFL on Thanksgiving."  Josh Allen and the Bills are each referenced once in the subhead, but the body of the article makes no mention of any Bills player, and the only reference to the team is one use of the words "the Bills" is in a link to the game stats.   

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/11/29/nfl-thanksgiving-day-games-bears-lions-bills-cowboys-saints-falcons

 

 

 

There is a section at the every end of that article that actually names some Bills players, but basically, it just says that the author likes Daboll's use of schemes to cover Allen's shortcomings, and that there was a cool trick play that got us a TD... now that's the kind of reporting that deserves the big bucks, SI... nice job *slow clap* ?

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8 hours ago, H2o said:

Outside of Nate Burleson, everything I have watched this morning has been how the Cowboys lost and not how the Bills won. The Cowboys' coaching, the Cowboys' play calling, Dak playing for his contract and what he deserves, the Cowboys' kicker missing kicks(not noting how Hauschka missed an XP and FG as well), endless drabble about Dem Boyz, with a little congrats to the Bills thrown in at the end with a 5 second shout out. Personally, I love it. Keep slighting these guys, keep sleeping on them, keep feeding that fire burning within them to prove the naysayers wrong. Like Jerry said yesterday, "You don't like us, but we're winning!!!" :thumbsup:

 

 

This sounds familiar ...

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I think Buffalo has a legit shot.  Allen's ceiling is the Bill's limit.  Perform well against Baltimore New England and now Buffalo is a contender.  The key in the NFL is to play your best football in December and January.  Yesterday was Buffalo best game.  A few calls against Buffalo imo kept the game close.  Buffalo has a chance to beat anyone in the conference.

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10 hours ago, H2o said:

Outside of Nate Burleson, everything I have watched this morning has been how the Cowboys lost and not how the Bills won. The Cowboys' coaching, the Cowboys' play calling, Dak playing for his contract and what he deserves, the Cowboys' kicker missing kicks(not noting how Hauschka missed an XP and FG as well), endless drabble about Dem Boyz, with a little congrats to the Bills thrown in at the end with a 5 second shout out. Personally, I love it. Keep slighting these guys, keep sleeping on them, keep feeding that fire burning within them to prove the naysayers wrong. Like Jerry said yesterday, "You don't like us, but we're winning!!!" :thumbsup:

 

That's the opposite that I'm getting. I'm seeing so much praise heaped upon the Bills it's insane. They're acting like we just beat a world beater of a team. 

"Bills win biggest since the Kelly Era" - https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bills-win-over-cowboys-could-biggest-since-kelly-215521636--nfl.html

 

"Bills dismantled Cowboys in front of largest TV audience since the Super Bowl" - 
 https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2019/11/29/buffalo-bills-vs-dallas-cowboys-most-watched-on-tv-since-super-bowl/4333393002/

 

"Bills players mock Cowboys' signature celebrations after dominating in Dallas" - https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bills-players-mock-cowboys-signature-celebrations-after-dominating-in-dallas/

 

"The Buffalo Bills are winning the AFC East, says ESPN's Ariel Helwani - https://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/2019/11/the-buffalo-bills-are-winning-the-afc-east-says-espns-ariel-helwani.html

 

"Josh Allen dismantles Dallas, Buffalo stymies Dak Prescott in convincing win" - https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bills-at-cowboys-final-score-josh-allen-dismantles-dallas-buffalo-stymies-dak-prescott-in-convincing-win/live/

 

"Buffalo Bills' Cole Beasley has best showing of season in 1st game back in Dallas" - https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28185529/buffalo-bills-cole-beasley-best-showing-season-1st-game-back-dallas

 

All Bills Twitter/Stats roundup (Bleacher Report) - https://bleacherreport.com/buffalo-bills

"Bills take control of AFC wild-card race with win over Cowboys" - https://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/33963/bills-take-control-of-afc-wild-card-race-with-win-over-cowboys

 

I mean there's a ton more, from small clips of TV discussion to Twitter reactions from pros & "experts," to articles from every publication... I haven't been able to escape the overflow of Bills praise from the media lately. Of course, there's a ton of people crapping on the Cowboys, but nobody is taking anything away from the Bills or saying the Bills didn't prove they were a top team.

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22 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

 

That's the opposite that I'm getting. I'm seeing so much praise heaped upon the Bills it's insane. They're acting like we just beat a world beater of a team. 

"Bills win biggest since the Kelly Era" - https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bills-win-over-cowboys-could-biggest-since-kelly-215521636--nfl.html

 

"Bills dismantled Cowboys in front of largest TV audience since the Super Bowl" - 
 https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2019/11/29/buffalo-bills-vs-dallas-cowboys-most-watched-on-tv-since-super-bowl/4333393002/

 

"Bills players mock Cowboys' signature celebrations after dominating in Dallas" - https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bills-players-mock-cowboys-signature-celebrations-after-dominating-in-dallas/

 

"The Buffalo Bills are winning the AFC East, says ESPN's Ariel Helwani - https://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/2019/11/the-buffalo-bills-are-winning-the-afc-east-says-espns-ariel-helwani.html

 

"Josh Allen dismantles Dallas, Buffalo stymies Dak Prescott in convincing win" - https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bills-at-cowboys-final-score-josh-allen-dismantles-dallas-buffalo-stymies-dak-prescott-in-convincing-win/live/

 

"Buffalo Bills' Cole Beasley has best showing of season in 1st game back in Dallas" - https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28185529/buffalo-bills-cole-beasley-best-showing-season-1st-game-back-dallas

 

All Bills Twitter/Stats roundup (Bleacher Report) - https://bleacherreport.com/buffalo-bills

"Bills take control of AFC wild-card race with win over Cowboys" - https://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/33963/bills-take-control-of-afc-wild-card-race-with-win-over-cowboys

 

I mean there's a ton more, from small clips of TV discussion to Twitter reactions from pros & "experts," to articles from every publication... I haven't been able to escape the overflow of Bills praise from the media lately. Of course, there's a ton of people crapping on the Cowboys, but nobody is taking anything away from the Bills or saying the Bills didn't prove they were a top team.

I disagree with the tv aspect. I watched a bunch of stuff this morning and 3/4 of the shows were dominated by “cowboys loss” talk and the clips you are seeing come out online are the line 3 minutes they decided to finally admit the bills might be a solid team. 
 

I was actually laughing at one point at how lopsided the coverage and talk was towards cowboys on every single show I flipped to. Heck, even GMFB, a show notorious for bills love, finally admitted to and scolded themselves for dwelling on the losing team for way too much air time. 

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7 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

 

I was actually laughing at one point at how lopsided the coverage and talk was towards cowboys on every single show I flipped to. Heck, even GMFB, a show notorious for bills love, finally admitted to and scolded themselves for dwelling on the losing team for way too much air time. 


yup Nate tore up a piece of paper saying he was done with the boys talk. 

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11 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

I disagree with the tv aspect. I watched a bunch of stuff this morning and 3/4 of the shows were dominated by “cowboys loss” talk and the clips you are seeing come out online are the line 3 minutes they decided to finally admit the bills might be a solid team. 
 

I was actually laughing at one point at how lopsided the coverage and talk was towards cowboys on every single show I flipped to. Heck, even GMFB, a show notorious for bills love, finally admitted to and scolded themselves for dwelling on the losing team for way too much air time. 

 

Admittedly I haven't watched much TV coverage, haven't really been home much to watch. Just watching online coverage from Twitter/Facebook/YouTube which is showing clips from TV shows praising us. But in regards to internet articles, there's a TON of stuff out there hyping up the Bills. But perhaps the big shows are spending more time talking about the Cowboys, probably because Jerry Jones said he's sticking with Garrett, which of course is going to fuel outrage for another week.

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18 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

 

Admittedly I haven't watched much TV coverage, haven't really been home much to watch. Just watching online coverage from Twitter/Facebook/YouTube which is showing clips from TV shows praising us. But in regards to internet articles, there's a TON of stuff out there hyping up the Bills. But perhaps the big shows are spending more time talking about the Cowboys, probably because Jerry Jones said he's sticking with Garrett, which of course is going to fuel outrage for another week.

The clips you are seeing are literally the only 3 minutes they addressed the bills out of hour to 2 hour shows. 
 

First take on ESPN is a 2 hour show. That 3 minute clip people have seen with Smith and riddick praising the bills was literally all they touched on the team. There was about a 5-10 min segment on the niners ravens game coming up and they literally talked Cowboys the rest of the show. I just laughed it off. I honestly quit watching that show when it started getting racially and politically charged. No biggie.... but it’s still ridiculous to watch nearly 2 hours of coverage on a team that got killed by a young exciting up and coming team that you feel no need to speak on. 

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I've been trying to soak this one in all day and enjoy it.  So glad you started this thread H2o.  Still, outside of Nate, nothing from anyone but very brief mentions about how good the Bills were last night.  EVERYONE else is blabbing on and on about how bad the 'boys were.  WTF? 

 

But you know what?  I really don't care now.  Our Bills beat down the Cowboys in front of 35 MILLION people and that speaks for itself.  Let them keep sleeping on the Bills.  Let them keep talking about whoever the Bills beat down next.  The more that happens, the more games the Bills are going to win. 

 

This team could be coming into its own right now and the future is starting to look awfully bright.  Just enjoy that my fellow Bills brothers and sister.  Josh Allen has arrived and the whole country got to see it.  I think we're finally in for a nice ride my friends.

 

 

 

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282211407_UndisputedBuffaloBeatdown.thumb.JPG.3a2713dbbab1633fe37b0866e86f1251.JPGThey were certainly over-doing the "Are the Cowboys done?" and "Should Jason Garrett be fired right now?" narratives but at least the some of the graphics at the bottom of the screens were like "Buffalo Beat Down" and similar.  That was nice to see.  And they aren't saying the Cowboys just lost.  They're all saying the Cowboys got hammered, beat down, dominated, etc.  That's also very nice to see.  I can get used to that.

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On 11/29/2019 at 10:45 AM, H2o said:

I love it. Can you imagine the fire they are stoking in our guys right now? :thumbsup:

 

Can I get two claps and a Ric Flair?!?!?!?!

 

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I can't imagine these guys care what the "national media" does our doesn't say about them.  

 

Does anybody really think they play harder based on what's on TV shows?

 

Sounds silly right?  This stuff is only important for posters who are incredible thirsty for validation.  Just enjoy what's happening.  Why do you need someone else to tell you what you're clearly seeing?

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On 11/29/2019 at 10:58 AM, Iron Maiden said:

Rodney Harrison went from " The Bills are a one and done team" in the playoffs to " no one wants to face the Bills " .....that's quite the turn around....we'll convince them one by one if needed...??

He's pretty high on my list of intolerable talking heads.

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15 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

I can't imagine these guys care what the "national media" does our doesn't say about them.  

 

Does anybody really think they play harder based on what's on TV shows?

 

Sounds silly right?  This stuff is only important for posters who are incredible thirsty for validation.  Just enjoy what's happening.  Why do you need someone else to tell you what you're clearly seeing?

Did you see Jerry Hughes walking back to the locker room the other day? He was screaming, "You don't like us, but we're winning!!!" They definitely hear it and I do believe it is a form of motivation for some of the guys. Neither the thread nor any other post has anything to do with any kind of validation. What is silly though is your plethora of asinine comments over the years. Stay simple my friend. :thumbsup:

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15 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

He's pretty high on my list of intolerable talking heads.

He doesn't hide his NE roots...that's for sure....Bruschi is the same....It was nice to see Harrison changing his tune.....we now know he's not completely blinded by his NE allegiance....

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19 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

He's pretty high on my list of intolerable talking heads.

I remember in the offseason they asked that crew who had a better shot to make the playoffs this year, bills or jets. somebody picked the bills and he literally laughed right at them. 
 

dude is a complete tool 

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15 minutes ago, H2o said:

Did you see Jerry Hughes walking back to the locker room the other day? He was screaming, "You don't like us, but we're winning!!!" They definitely hear it and I do believe it is a form of motivation for some of the guys. Neither the thread nor any other post has anything to do with any kind of validation. What is silly though is your plethora of asinine comments over the years. Stay simple my friend. :thumbsup:

 

This is one in a steady stream of "why doesn't the national media say nice things about us??" threads .. Congrats on adding another sheet of the paper too the pile of inferiority complex.

 

Sure Jerry was fired up---after the win.  As he should be.  The Friday talk shows aren't firing him up.  As they shouldn't really...

 

Isn't time you started a "trap game" thread? Fits right in, no?

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2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

This is one in a steady stream of "why doesn't the national media say nice things about us??" threads .. Congrats on adding another sheet of the paper too the pile of inferiority complex.

 

Sure Jerry was fired up---after the win.  As he should be.  The Friday talk shows aren't firing him up.  As they shouldn't really...

 

Isn't time you started a "trap game" thread? Fits right in, no?

That's not my style, don't really get into the "trap game" thing. May be yours though? Thanks for your wonderful insight into the mind of our players though. Let me guess, you have sources deep within right? You can go back to taking selfies with your Tom Brady fathead now. :thumbsup:

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That's not my style, don't really get into the "trap game" thing. May be yours though? Thanks for your wonderful insight into the mind of our players though. Let me guess, you have sources deep within right? You can go back to taking selfies with your Tom Brady fathead now. :thumbsup:

 

 

There's the white flag I was waiting for.  It took 2 replies.  You're slowing down.

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On 11/29/2019 at 4:21 PM, StHustle said:

 

Bro do you need me to inbox you some links? I live in Charlotte and see every Bills game from the comfort of my own home with no buffering ?

 

Thanks for the offer!  Please do!

 

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Any time Skippy is upset is a is a good time, don’t y’all think so? ?

 

Go Bills!!!

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