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2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Try reading my post.  Grainy black and white TVs have an era.  So do VCRs.  So does DirectTV

 

I do not have DirectTV or cable but that would not be due to haplessness. 

dude I was just joking    sheesh  

I left Rochester in 1997 and have had DirecTV and NFL package ever since then.  

 

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I’ve evolved as a fan over the years. Started out as a simple table top model on my way to becoming a three speed box type and then to an oscillating pedestal stand. Being a ceiling fan was just never in the cards for me. 

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One who doesn't see fandom as a social organization or place to meet people. One who doesn't drink the Koolaid spewed here and by the likes of Chris Brown, John Murphy, and Sal Capaccio. One who never, ever wears a jersey with the name of another man on my back because I am older than 12. One who is analytical and organizational, and therefore statistically driven, and as such believes leadership, planning, and uh oh process, that is centered on developing a team based on emotional intelligence, football intelligence, and work ethic produces more results than picking the fastest player with the best 3-cone shuffle. One who is not emotionally attached to a single player, which leaves me able to see them as parts of a system and to accept when the part is faulty. One whose week isn't ruined by a loss or glorious because of a win. 

 

One who refuses to diminish the achievement of the Pats, Bill Belichek, and Tom Brady out of spoiled grapes and homerism. The whining, asterisks, and general childishness around the Pats is very entertaining to me. 

 

One who is a diehard fan of the team, win or lose. One who boos and cheers and believes that only cheering and not booing is why we live in this kindergarten country where everyone gets a trophy. One who is a STH despite the lean years when I should have bailed, when I ate tickets constantly for games I couldn't make and literally couldn't give them away. 

 

One who will raise a glass with any fan but won't tolerate conversations about ifs and maybes about your favorite player when the data and my eyes tell me otherwise while yours are blinded by the charging buffalo. Cheers.

 

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I grew up in a home where my parents didn't care about football at all, but baseball was a different story. My mother went to Fredonia in the 60s and was a Jets fan (as was most women those days because of Namath) but after really didn't follow it at all. My father lost his twin brother who lettered in football in a car crash, so I'm pretty sure that he swore it off completely and thought playing had partly to do with his death.

 

I was in high school when I discovered football was pretty awesome and I never looked back... and then with that came hockey so it was all Buffalo for me. I'd cut out articles in the paper and go to the international newsstand store to get copies of the Buffalo News when they had them. Since we had a Buffalo sports bar nearby, I went there as often as I could after college. We had true wings with that Anchor Bar sauce, beef on weck, and more, and I was hooked ALL THE WAY.

 

I've always been the away Bills fan at games since I was in the Navy for 20 years, but I DID get to go to the Bills/Jets game in 1999 and watched games with two different Virginia Beach Bills Backers, New London Bills Backers, Baltimore Bills Backers, watched the NFL at home in San Diego and had to scrounge for scores while I lived in Turkey... so yeah I'm The Wanderer when it comes to the Bills.

 

I used to buy Bills jerseys of current players, but we were running through them so often that after having to render useless my Rob Johnson, Flutie and Bledsoe jerseys, I went straight classic ever since (except for that OJ jersey that I had to get rid of, sad). I must have been the only guy within hundreds of miles to own both a Jack Kemp and a Cookie Gilchrist jersey LMAO 

 

Despite the years and years of ridiculous pain, diehard Bills fan is the ONLY way to be.

 

P.S. Being in Ohio for two years now I have come to the conclusion that Browns fans are not even close to our league fan wise. 

 

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7 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

I am a Bills fan from the day I started watching football.  There was no father who was a fan telling me who to watch or teaching me the intricacies of the sport.  I liked all sports & cheer for the local teams.

 

I have no deep knowledge of the draft or know all the starters at each position or get very excited about trades or drafting on the offensive line or linebackers & DB's.  I want them to perform and cheer for them.

 

I will see who the Bills drafted, the scouting reports, rating draft picks by team (i.e. ABC....) & that's about the end of it for me.  

 

I do not & will repeat it play fantasy football.  I do a weekly pool vs. the spread & that is it.

 

I am however a fan of QB's, passing yards, WR's & having a productive exciting running game (not 3 yards & a cloud of dust).  I want to see the offense score 35 points, throw for 300+ yards & move the ball up & down the field.  The Kelly K-gun Bills were the best.  The Buffalo Vs. SF No punt game was the best game I ever saw.

 

So yes when I hear McDermott talk about "THE PROCESS" and "CHARACTER" players and intimate they want to grind out games, make few mistakes & his idea of a great win is 14-10 (and we do know that is his attitude) it rankles me.

 

I am a fan and exciting is 35-31, not 17-14.  

 

And yes I think Allen can be that franchise QB, because if he is not, the Bills are back to square one.

 

Some of you just want wins (of course we all do), but again I too want to be entertained, and frankly the Bills are not a fun team to watch.

 

So tell me why you watch & what you want from the Bills.

The bolded text explains at least half the threads/posts at this forum since the day Allen was drafted.

 

The simple fact is that we all know that if he is not it, we are back to square one.

 

Most fans here simply can't handle that or refuse to contemplate it.


This explains the fervent defense Allen receives here every day.  I don't think it comes from posters who genuinely believe he is going to be great.  I think it comes from their inability to process the fact that if he isn't great, we're screwed.  At least for a while until we hopefully find someone else.

 

This also explains why I would like to reach a definitive verdict on Allen at the end of this year.

 

Keep the process moving forward.

 

 

 

 

 

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Why can't we just enjoy being 5-2?  A fan is a fan. Too many years of garbage. We have a good team. Pats* are almost finished and then it's really on like a mofo... 

 

My 1st home game was Nov 1989 vs the Jets. I was hook'd. I just assumed you just ripped down the posts after every game. 

Season tix for almost 10 yrs and then had kids. 

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I've become a realist in the last couple of years.  No longer will I wear rose colored glasses when assessing this football team.

 

I'll always be a fan, but I'm also going to be a harsh critic when I feel it's warranted.  Been beaten down for too many years, so it's tough love from here on out.

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I've gotten more even keeled over the years. 

 

I tend to move on pretty quickly after a loss but I'd be lying if I said I had a little less pep in my step on Mondays. 

 

I still get a warm fuzzy feeling in an airport when somebody sees a Bills T or hat I've got on.  

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The first Bills game I watched was the divisional playoff game against the Browns in 89. Watched wide right, watched the blow outs, watched the drought. I used to read fictional sports stories as a kid (football related), I even took out a book on how to play football from the library that was written in the early 50's (which was actually pretty interesting, I wish I could remember the name of it). I expanded to also following college football in 2005 when I moved to Florida and it became impossible to watch the Bills (Go Gators). I've taken time off of work to follow the draft. I love football and can't quit the Bills.

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I have nothing original to add.

 

Scrolling through these responses I felt I could relate to just about all of them to some degree.

 

Funny, because we fight like cats and dogs and disagree on this board on just about every other thing Bills related.

 

Maybe a common thread that unites is that we are all long suffering Bills fans?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I am an obsessive football fan, through and through. I'm not just into sports in general. I don't care at all about hockey or baseball, and I only casually follow the NBA. Football, though? Inject it into my veins. There is hardly a day of the year that I do not come to this message board or seek out football news and/or content on the internet. The offseason is just as fun for me as the season, because I love the roster building aspect of football. I love the run-up to the draft, free agency, mini camps, all of it. I spend way too much time watching All-22 breakdowns on Twitter. I spend the whole week after most Bills games watching GIFs, reading breakdowns of the game, visiting the message boards of the opposing team we just played, and diving into the "hows and whys" of the previous Sunday's games.

Obviously, within the realm of football fandom, I'm a diehard Bills fan. I can name every player on the roster, every year. I know most of their jersey numbers. Generally speaking, I have a good mind for the useless trivium of football fandom. I can name much of the roster of MOST teams, I know where way too many NFL players played in college, I can name every head coach and most offensive and defensive coordinators in the NFL. Like I said: useless trivia. It just sticks in my brain for some reason, even though I could hardly tell you what I ate for lunch yesterday.

I play Madden online and always use the Bills. I am in two fantasy football leagues with a decent amount of money on the line. I watch NFL Films productions and old games a fair amount in the offseason to get my football fix. I have read and continue to read various football books about the history of the game and the Xs and Os. Some of my favorites have been "The Games That Changed The Game", "GM", and "Take Your Eye Off The Ball". Next, I plan to read "The Genius of Desperation". I'm always trying to improve my knowledge of the game.

I used to have season tickets, but nowadays I live on the west coast. I still try to make it back to western New York for one game a year. Two if I'm lucky.

Attitudinally, I am optimistic to a fault. I cannot stand being around negative Nellies, especially on game day. During the Bills-Dolphins game this year, I sat near a Bills "fan" at New Era Field who was just ridiculously and repetitively negative. It took all the self control I could muster not to punch him in the face. We're all watching the same game, bro. Hearing you B word and moan and freak out after EVERY. SINGLE. PLAY does none of us any good. 

I prefer elite defense to elite offense, though I have to admit that after so many years of bad offense in Buffalo, it sure would be nice to watch an honest-to-God, top five offense one of these years.

My favorite football player names are Equanimeous St Brown, Poop Johnson, and Plaxico Burress. I thought Reggie Corner and Nickel Robey were pretty funny, too. 

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As a kid I was a Colts fan until they moved to Indianapolis. After that I decided to follow the most local team, which was the Bills.

 

There is never a game that I root against them tho I may boo them as I did at halftime of the Dolphins game and after a weak performance vs the Eagles last week, from my home. I've yelled at them many times as well for stupid plays, stupid hires (Rex, Brandon) etc... But I guess that's because I'm a fan and as such I want them to succeed.

 

I dislike the Jests and the Phins and detest anything and everything patriots. I wouldn't even buy a certain Jeep model because it has that name on it.

 

I'll be a fan until the Bills leave WNY or until I get turned to ash.

 

 

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I disagree with you on several points. 

 

1. It's not "3 yards and a cloud of dust." Try "5 yards and a cloud of dust." and there's nothing wrong with that at all as long as you are able to do it consistently.. Personally, I find passing 60% or more to be exceedingly boring. Also, I love to watch an elite defense just throttle an opposing offense. I'm fine with low scoring games. The ultimate for me is when the Bills shut out the other team.

 

2. I'm a very long way from handing the title of "franchise QB" to Josh Allen. At this point in his career, he has fared no better than any number of QB's that never made it. He is certainly not highly rated by the rest of the sports media because they aren't biased in his favor. I hope his accuracy improves drastically as well as his football IQ, so to speak. He has a chance to get better, but he still has a really long way to go.

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As a fan who "chose" the Bills (Kelly's hometown right by me) given where I grew up in western PA Steelers country, I've been used to being in the minority as a Bills fan anywhere I've lived in the States since then too. Pretty or ugly, doesn't much matter to me as long as it's a W! I'm just as happy when our D-line registers a sack, as I am over a chunk play on offense. We all know this year's iteration of our Bills hasn't even hit its stride of what it can accomplish, so I remain optimistic we are going to put it together to peak at just the right time for a stretch run. At 5-2 with problems, we've all seen much worse to complain about the past 20 years!    

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21 hours ago, zonabb said:

One who doesn't see fandom as a social organization or place to meet people. One who doesn't drink the Koolaid spewed here and by the likes of Chris Brown, John Murphy, and Sal Capaccio. One who never, ever wears a jersey with the name of another man on my back because I am older than 12. One who is analytical and organizational, and therefore statistically driven, and as such believes leadership, planning, and uh oh process, that is centered on developing a team based on emotional intelligence, football intelligence, and work ethic produces more results than picking the fastest player with the best 3-cone shuffle. One who is not emotionally attached to a single player, which leaves me able to see them as parts of a system and to accept when the part is faulty. One whose week isn't ruined by a loss or glorious because of a win. 

 

One who refuses to diminish the achievement of the Pats, Bill Belichek, and Tom Brady out of spoiled grapes and homerism. The whining, asterisks, and general childishness around the Pats is very entertaining to me. 

 

One who is a diehard fan of the team, win or lose. One who boos and cheers and believes that only cheering and not booing is why we live in this kindergarten country where everyone gets a trophy. One who is a STH despite the lean years when I should have bailed, when I ate tickets constantly for games I couldn't make and literally couldn't give them away. 

 

One who will raise a glass with any fan but won't tolerate conversations about ifs and maybes about your favorite player when the data and my eyes tell me otherwise while yours are blinded by the charging buffalo. Cheers.

 

 

I agree with most of this. I disagree with your take on booing.

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