I’m just going to come out and say it - this is the year

[london_bills]

13 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

The only one of those teams with a winning record are the ravens, and they're just not that good, buddy.

 

Eagles? I live in the Philadelphia area, see a lot of them. They're trash. Cowboys? You DID just see them lose in horrible fashion, yes?

 

Be a whipped dog, if you want. I won't.

 

 

Whipped dog syndrome or passionate non thinking fan syndrome?

 

These are bigger tests than what has been played so far because the bills will be expected to win and therefore be under more pressure with a QB who is still developing. It's a logical argument. If you dont see that then you need an IQ test.

 

Don't get this confused with me not expecting the bills to have a winning record now and getting into the post season. But yes I am skeptical.

 

 

 

Edited October 14, 2019 by london_bills

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, london_bills said:

 

Whipped dog syndrome or passionate non thinking fan syndrome?

 

These are bigger tests than what has been played so far because the bills will be expected to win and therefore be under more pressure with a QB who is still developing. It's a logical argument. If you dont see that then you need an IQ test.

 

Don't get this confused with me not expecting the bills to have a winning record now and getting into the post season. But yes I am skeptical.

 

 

 

 

OK, let's hear your "logic" as to why those will be challenges because the Bills will be favored.

 

This should be good.

 

[Stank_Nasty]

12 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

The only one of those teams with a winning record are the ravens, and they're just not that good, buddy.

 

Eagles? I live in the Philadelphia area, see a lot of them. They're trash. Cowboys? You DID just see them lose in horrible fashion, yes?

 

Be a whipped dog, if you want. I won't.

 

I’m all in on this season. I really can’t stand the whole “wait and see” approach to being a fan. People missed out on the whole 2017 season because of that nonsense.... 

 

that being said. It’s still ok to realize they need to beat some better competition and those teams are at least solid... describing the eagles as “garbage” is a bit excessive IMO. That will be a tough game win or lose, I think.... if we can take 2 of those 3 i’d be happy. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, Stank_Nasty said:

describing the eagles as “garbage” is a bit excessive IMO.

Really? You watch a lot of Eagles games? This is a team that just surrendered 330+ yards to KIRK COUSINS.

 

Hell, even the people around HERE are starting to call for Pederson's head.

 

[london_bills]

Cowboys are 3-3. Eagles are 3-3. Ravens are 4-2. Cowboys game is away on national TV. Total 10-8 record. Eagles won the Superbowl two years ago. I understand it is not the exact same team. Same head coach. Ravens have same head coach that won them the Superbowl.

 

Teams we have beaten this season have a combined record of 4-18.

 

Like I say the expectation will change around the bills and its how they can cope with that. Statistically the eagles, ravens, cowboys are better teams than they have played. With 3 good QBs aswell.

 

The way the league works is you beat teams who are more respectable and you get more respect. As we know at the moment everyone's really ignoring the bills like they do.

 

My point is that these are harder games than the first 4 wins.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 minutes ago, london_bills said:

Cowboys are 3-3. Eagles are 3-3. Ravens are 4-2. Cowboys game is away on national TV. Total 10-8 record. Eagles won the Superbowl two years ago. I understand it is not the exact same team. Same head coach. Ravens have same head coach that won them the Superbowl.

 

Teams we have beaten this season have a combined record of 4-18.

 

Like I say the expectation will change around the bills and its how they can cope with that. Statistically the eagles, ravens, cowboys are better teams than they have played. With 3 good QBs aswell.

 

The way the league works is you beat teams who are more respectable and you get more respect. As we know at the moment everyone's really ignoring the bills like they do.

 

My point is that these are harder games than the first 4 wins.

 

Sorry, but I'm not a believer in Dak, Carson Wentz OR Lamar Jackson, especially not against this defense.

 

[london_bills]

1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Sorry, but I'm not a believer in Dak, Carson Wentz OR Lamar Jackson, especially not against this defense.

 

Sure, but you can see the other points.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, london_bills said:

Sure, but you can see the other points.

 

Not really, no. In the NFL, you beat the teams put in front of you or you don't. There's no style points, no rankings, no committees. If McDermott and staff have shown us anything, they're prepared, balanced and never get too high or too low. They SHOULD have beat the Patriots, and I think if Josh had completed the game, they would have.

 

This is a VERY good team, and anyone who disagrees is living in the past rather than the now.

 

[london_bills]

McDermott Will be fully aware of how tough this stretch will be. He will not be thinking we have made the playoffs now.

 

4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Not really, no. In the NFL, you beat the teams put in front of you or you don't. There's no style points, no rankings, no committees. If McDermott and staff have shown us anything, they're prepared, balanced and never get too high or too low. They SHOULD have beat the Patriots, and I think if Josh had completed the game, they would have.

 

This is a VERY good team, and anyone who disagrees is living in the past rather than the now.

 

I do not agree at this point that this is a VERY good team  - yet.

 

It is a VERY good defense.

[london_bills]

Allen still has the potential to throw the other team the game. Love the guy but he's a loose cannon at this point.

[Wayne Arnold]

8 hours ago, Mr. SpacePuppy said:

 

 

LOL! Zero double digit wins since 1999.....20 years.  I'm playing the odds on this one. 8-8.  Ill be ready with my bucket at the end of the season, I want to taste all of your sweet salty tears after another Bills implosion.  I swear, some of you have been Bills fans for like 5 minutes.

 

None of those teams have anything to do with this team.

 

I'm a man who's not ashamed to cry. But I don't cry over the Bills until they win the Super Bowl.

[Stank_Nasty]

1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said:

Really? You watch a lot of Eagles games? This is a team that just surrendered 330+ yards to KIRK COUSINS.

 

Hell, even the people around HERE are starting to call for Pederson's head.

 

they are 3-3. that's not garbage, man... I will say their pass d is a freaking leaky sieve. 

 

I'm excited about the prospects of 3 straight "get right" games for the offense. but it wont surprise me if we lose that eagles game. They can hang with anyone on a good day.

1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Not really, no. In the NFL, you beat the teams put in front of you or you don't. There's no style points, no rankings, no committees. If McDermott and staff have shown us anything, they're prepared, balanced and never get too high or too low. They SHOULD have beat the Patriots, and I think if Josh had completed the game, they would have.

 

This is a VERY good team, and anyone who disagrees is living in the past rather than the now.

 

you are being sort of stubborn on this I think. I can believe the bills are a very good team and still not be surprised if they those a game out of the three being mentioned. 

 

odds are they don't win all of those games. have you not watched the NFL over the last 20 years? parity, man. 

Edited October 14, 2019 by Stank_Nasty

[Solomon Grundy]

The greatest CB in NFL history said on his show "PrimeTime" that if the young QB stop turning over the ball that the Bills can be contenders for the SB.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

15 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

odds are they don't win all of those games. have you not watched the NFL over the last 20 years? parity, man. 

 

I have no problems with people thinking they'll lose one of those games. I DO have a problem with them thinking that any of those teams are in any way something we should fear.

 

Usually, the reasons given are along the lines of:

 

1) Oh, they never win in Pittsburgh

2) National TV game in Dallas

 

etc.

 

 

[Stank_Nasty]

1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

I have no problems with people thinking they'll lose one of those games. I DO have a problem with them thinking that any of those teams are in any way something we should fear.

 

Usually, the reasons given are along the lines of:

 

1) Oh, they never win in Pittsburgh

2) National TV game in Dallas

 

etc.

 

 

Fair enough. I don’t see a team we should be scared of the rest of the way out(NE included).... but they are gonna lose a couple of those games. 

[Rocket94]

2 hours ago, london_bills said:

McDermott Will be fully aware of how tough this stretch will be. He will not be thinking we have made the playoffs now.

 

I do not agree at this point that this is a VERY good team  - yet.

 

It is a VERY good defense.

The Bills are becoming a very good team...they are trying to figure themselves out.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

14 hours ago, Mr. SpacePuppy said:

Yeah like that’s going to help....how many long balls has Allen connected on this season? Zero. They’ve all been inaccurate throws, mostly too long. 

 

Let me ask you... who is faster, Brown or Foster?

 

So if Foster is faster than Brown, don't you think Allen's throws become right on the money considering Foster's ability to get to the spot faster?

 

Hopefully Foster returns and we get that magic back.

[Happy]

3 hours ago, the skycap said:

The greatest CB in NFL history said on his show "PrimeTime" that if the young QB stop turning over the ball that the Bills can be contenders for the SB.

 

Deion also mentioned that he thinks the Bills are the team to stop the Patriots, no the Chiefs.  I was surprised (in a good way) to hear this.  Deion went on to mention that the offense, and Josh in particular, does need to stop turning over the ball; which he seemed to suggest this will happen.

[london_bills]

4 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

I have no problems with people thinking they'll lose one of those games. I DO have a problem with them thinking that any of those teams are in any way something we should fear.

 

Usually, the reasons given are along the lines of:

 

1) Oh, they never win in Pittsburgh

2) National TV game in Dallas

 

etc.

 

 

I personally see you as being more emotional about this argument than me.

 

No one's saying the bills should fear these teams mate, but they are BETTER teams than who the bills have faced so far. Look at the records.

 

Like another poster said, recognize your stubbornness. ?

 

 

[transplantbillsfan]

15 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 a legitimate shot ???  to hoist the Lombardi???   

 

LOL.  

 

Being one of the top 5 teams in the NFL.

 

Yes.

 

Are you stalking me or just this passive aggressive all the time?

Edited October 15, 2019 by transplantbillsfan

[Warcodered]

13 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

I have no problems with people thinking they'll lose one of those games. I DO have a problem with them thinking that any of those teams are in any way something we should fear.

 

Usually, the reasons given are along the lines of:

 

1) Oh, they never win in Pittsburgh

2) National TV game in Dallas

 

etc.

 

 

I think last week or the one before I saw a graphic with the Bills behind the Patriots and Chiefs and all the teams below them. My first thought seeing that was I don't seen any team behind them I don't think they can beat. Chiefs have come down to Earth some and seem more vulnerable and the Patriots even struggling are tough but if the Allen and the offense can get in sync I don't see why not.

[Rocket94]

10 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

Deion also mentioned that he thinks the Bills are the team to stop the Patriots, no the Chiefs.  I was surprised (in a good way) to hear this.  Deion went on to mention that the offense, and Josh in particular, does need to stop turning over the ball; which he seemed to suggest this will happen.

With Allen progressing and just a few reinforcements, this is going to happen sooner than later.

Edited October 15, 2019 by Rocket94

[Mr. SpacePuppy]

On 10/14/2019 at 12:55 PM, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

Let me ask you... who is faster, Brown or Foster?

 

So if Foster is faster than Brown, don't you think Allen's throws become right on the money considering Foster's ability to get to the spot faster?

 

Hopefully Foster returns and we get that magic back.

This is perhaps one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. We need faster receivers to catch up to the inaccuracies of our quarterback.  That is insane

[EasternOHBillsFan]

4 hours ago, Mr. SpacePuppy said:

This is perhaps one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. We need faster receivers to catch up to the inaccuracies of our quarterback.  That is insane

 

Dumber still is your conclusion that QB-WR timing isn't a factor in completion of deep balls where speed is a factor, so yeah, you get the dunce cap, buddy...

Edited October 17, 2019 by EasternOHBillsFan

[Wayne Arnold]

9 wins with four games to go.

 

F it. Let's win all four.

[LeGOATski]

9 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

9 wins with four games to go.

 

F it. Let's win all four.

Bring on the Ravens.

 

With both teams hitting their stride, this will be one for the ages.

[123719bwiqrb]

1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

Bring on the Ravens.

 

With both teams hitting their stride, this will be one for the ages.

 

Maybe it'll be like the Eagles game in 1990.  That was the turning point game for the no huddle and the SB bound Bills.

[PromoTheRobot]

I support you for coming out.

[Patrick Duffy]

Guess he's back on the band wagon again. Few weeks ago they were doomed according to Wayne. Back n forth I see lol

Edited November 30, 2019 by Patrick_Duffy

[LeGOATski]

27 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said:

Guess he's back on the band wagon again. Few weeks ago they were damned by Wayne. Back n forth I see lol

The Bills are a roller coaster.

 

I predicted 11 wins in the pre-season prediction thread.

 

There's one poster who is 100% on their prediction. Got the Cleveland loss and the Dallas win correct. I think they predicted 12 wins. Gotta find that thread.

 

 

Edited November 30, 2019 by LeGOATski

[Aussie Joe]

5 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said:

Guess he's back on the band wagon again. Few weeks ago they were doomed according to Wayne. Back n forth I see lol

Bipolar .. there is a bit of it around here as we see in the game thread every week..

 

 

Edited November 30, 2019 by Aussie Joe

[BADOLBILZ]

34 minutes ago, ScotSHO said:

 

Maybe it'll be like the Eagles game in 1990.  That was the turning point game for the no huddle and the SB bound Bills.

 

They were actually 8-2 and well on their way to home field advantage coming into that game.    The turning point was the loss in Miami in week 2.....they won 7 straight after that.   But that Eagles game was definitely entertaining.

Edited November 30, 2019 by BADOLBILZ

[BADOLBILZ]

2 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

Bring on the Ravens.

 

With both teams hitting their stride, this will be one for the ages.

 

 

I'm hoping it becomes the norm.

 

Every year the Patriots play 4-5 huge games like this...........when you win that happens.

 

If I had one lament about those early 1990's Bills regular seasons it was that there were too many cupcakes...........we didn't get the week-to-week drama of the better NFC teams.........and while that kind of schedule may have prevented the Bills from reaching 4 straight SB's I think it also lead to them taking a whole lotta' Sundays for granted and eventually they weren't as battle hardened in the SB's.

[Hebert19]

On 10/10/2019 at 12:47 PM, Wayne Arnold said:

This team has what it takes to win 13 games and make a serious run at the AFC Championship.

 

I’m no homer. Trust me. That said - it’s time we stop being afraid of believing in this team. This isn’t 2004 or 2008 or 2011. 

 

It’s also time we stop thinking that progress is linear and we aren’t ready yet. Three reasons why 12 wins should be the minimum expectation for this team:

 

1. The schedule is as easy as it’s going to ever be. Easiest schedule in the NFL going forward. You have to take advantage of that. 

 

2. The defense is dominant. Third year in this system, they have arrived. Edmunds is on the verge of becoming a perennial All-Pro. Best safety tandem in football. A shut-down corner. And DEPTH. There is no reason for this team to not impose their will on each of the 11 offenses they will face moving forward.

 

3. The offense is better than they have showed. They aren’t scoring enough points yet. They’re turning it over too much. But they’re moving the ball (12th in total offense). Allen is only going to get better. The brand new pieces should improve as the season goes along. We have seen this offense at its worst - and we have won 4 out of 5 (possibly 5 out of 5 if our QB hadn’t gotten concussed).

 

No excuses. 12 wins minimum. 

I said this pre trade deadline.  Which is why I was in favor of making some moves.  We are peaking at the right time and 1 or 2 pieces could put us over the top. Now we have to hope foster Singletary and maybe knox step up to give us enough weapons. 

[LSHMEAB]

2 hours ago, Patrick_Duffy said:

Guess he's back on the band wagon again. Few weeks ago they were doomed according to Wayne. Back n forth I see lol

Yeah. It's a bit odd. I think Kevin hijacks that account on occasion. Maybe it's the Dad who was angry and bitter like 24/7.

[billsbackto81]

On 10/10/2019 at 12:47 PM, Wayne Arnold said:

This team has what it takes to win 13 games and make a serious run at the AFC Championship.

 

I’m no homer. Trust me. That said - it’s time we stop being afraid of believing in this team. This isn’t 2004 or 2008 or 2011. 

 

It’s also time we stop thinking that progress is linear and we aren’t ready yet. Three reasons why 12 wins should be the minimum expectation for this team:

 

1. The schedule is as easy as it’s going to ever be. Easiest schedule in the NFL going forward. You have to take advantage of that. 

 

2. The defense is dominant. Third year in this system, they have arrived. Edmunds is on the verge of becoming a perennial All-Pro. Best safety tandem in football. A shut-down corner. And DEPTH. There is no reason for this team to not impose their will on each of the 11 offenses they will face moving forward.

 

3. The offense is better than they have showed. They aren’t scoring enough points yet. They’re turning it over too much. But they’re moving the ball (12th in total offense). Allen is only going to get better. The brand new pieces should improve as the season goes along. We have seen this offense at its worst - and we have won 4 out of 5 (possibly 5 out of 5 if our QB hadn’t gotten concussed).

 

No excuses. 12 wins minimum. 

 

Edited December 1, 2019 by billsbackto81

[The Dean]

44 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

 

 

 

I can dig it:

 

 

[ganesh]

5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I'm hoping it becomes the norm.

 

Every year the Patriots play 4-5 huge games like this...........when you win that happens.

 

If I had one lament about those early 1990's Bills regular seasons it was that there were too many cupcakes...........we didn't get the week-to-week drama of the better NFC teams.........and while that kind of schedule may have prevented the Bills from reaching 4 straight SB's I think it also lead to them taking a whole lotta' Sundays for granted and eventually they weren't as battle hardened in the SB's.

How could the AFC hvae been a cupcake...There was:

Marino and the Dolphins

Montana and the Chiefs

Elway with the Broncos

Emerging Bledsoe with Patriots

Esiason with the Bengals and later with Jets,

[GregPersons]

Schedule was set up perfectly. 

 

Team had plenty of time to work out the kinks in the first 3/4 of the season being a cupcake schedule. Now they're going to the playoffs, and they basically get a playoff pre-season over the next month to see how they compare to the conference contenders with Baltimore and NE, and Pittsburgh and Jets both being exhibition takes on wildcard games. 

 

They continue to click and improve, and meet their level of competition - which I think they will - then they are as viable as anyone. If they beat Baltimore (coming out game for Edmunds) and NE (if you send this new Allen back in time to the first game, we win)... could you imagine? 

 

All of the pieces are there for them to get hot at the right time and be that team.

[GregPersons]

5 hours ago, Hebert19 said:

I said this pre trade deadline.  Which is why I was in favor of making some moves.  We are peaking at the right time and 1 or 2 pieces could put us over the top. Now we have to hope foster Singletary and maybe knox step up to give us enough weapons. 

 

I don't know that they're really missing anything. They just need a few more players to elevate to their next level. Part of it is just cohesion. They need to get to a point, and I think they are maybe there, where the level of performance against Dallas is their new floor. 

 

If the O-Line can make the same strides like the D-Line has the last few weeks, as Ford gets more game reps... 

If the LBs take the next step, Milano and Edmunds hit the explosive plays and also cut down on mistakes/overpursuits... 

If Knox stops the drops...

 

Offense still has not played their best game of the season. I think Allen will have at least one 300 yard game in the next month. This team is going to be really exciting to watch the rest of the year.