YoloinOhio Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) Would be a nice fit in this defense esp with Milano’s hammy situation Edited October 22, 2019 by YoloinOhio 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Agreed - I like the player, versatile, you wonder what his issue is though as Arians drafted him but can’t seem to motivate or use him.., 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Could definitely be a good fit. He's that tweener-type that McDermott likes, can play safety in addition to LB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Would be a nice fit in this defense esp with Milano’s hammy situation I would sign him immediately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) It's very expensive to fly players in from Tampa. First you have the outrageous airfare ticket prices, then there's the extra leg room charge, another $60 plus those damn luggage fees. -PASS Edited October 15, 2019 by HOUSE 1 23 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I would sign him immediately. Oh yeah, well I would have signed him when he walked out of the building. ...which also qualifies as "immediately". *darn it* Edited October 9, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Roster moves that could free the spot for him include Corey Thompson to IR (Depending on his Return Timetable) Maurice Alexander - Released Foster to IR (Depending on his INJ timetable) Kroft to IR Perry - Re-Released 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) 7 TSWs usually never agree, and not typically in a row. Get'er done. 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Roster moves that could free the spot for him include Corey Thompson to IR (Depending on his Return Timetable) Maurice Alexander - Released Foster to IR (Depending on his INJ timetable) Kroft to IR Perry - Re-Released I'm sorry, I've checked all game film. Who is Kroft, again? EDIT: Please. my apologies a second time. I went back and looked at preseason game film, too. ...who is Kroft, again? Edited October 9, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts 2 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: 7 TSWs usually never agree, and not typically in a row. Get'er done. I'm sorry, I've checked all game film. Who is Kroft, again? A no longer needed UFA with Knox Sweeney and even Lee Smith's performance during first 5 weeks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: A no longer needed UFA with Knox Sweeney and even Lee Smith's performance during first 5 weeks. Good. Glad to hear it. Now please reassure m that we didn't sign him to a multi-year deal that paid him anything more than the veteran minimum and we will be all set. Edited October 9, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Rather trade for Kuechly since we should be all in. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, dollars 2 donuts said: Good. Glad to hear it. Now please reassure m that we didn't sign him to a multi-year deal that paid him the veteran minimum and we will be all set. Easy out after this year with only 1.6M in dead money. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/tyler-kroft-16809/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, Sherlock Holmes said: Rather trade for Kuechly since we should be all in. The 3-2 Panthers are trading Luke Kuechly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: Easy out after this year with only 1.6M in dead money. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/tyler-kroft-16809/ Yeah, I know...however, in hindsight...definitely hindsight, wasn't this just a little bit of a silly signing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, dollars 2 donuts said: Yeah, I know...however, in hindsight...definitely hindsight, wasn't this just a little bit of a silly signing? Not really at the time they had NOTHING but Jason Croom at TE. No way of knowing that their draft would being Knox and Sweeney, and then no way of knowing they would make Kroft Irrelevant in their First year. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR8 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: 7 TSWs usually never agree, and not typically in a row. Get'er done. I'm sorry, I've checked all game film. Who is Kroft, again? Kroft would file a grievance and demand an injury settlement if we put him on IR at this point and try and force a release. That'd be basically neutral in cap hit this year but carry a $1.6M cap hit in 2020. At this point they're still better off giving him through the Bye to see if he can come back healthy and contribute. If not then worry about releasing him then. If we wait until 2020 to release him hes just a $800K dead cap hit and we get $5.9M in cap relief. That's a preferential way of doing it. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: The 3-2 Panthers are trading Luke Kuechly? I hate Kyle Allen? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Slower since the ankle injury. His speed pre-injury is what made him very effective as a coverage LB. Bills would have to see if that's a chronic issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I like him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: I hate Kyle Allen? So does Cam. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 What have you guys seen from Sweeney that makes you ok writing off Kroft? Obviously it doesn't matter if he's never healthy, but if he can come back after the bye, or after the Miami game, I see no reasons provided by Sweeney to keep Kroft off the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, dpberr said: Slower since the ankle injury. His speed pre-injury is what made him very effective as a coverage LB. Bills would have to see if that's a chronic issue. Too slow to be an effective backup? I haven't seen him play in a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, SCBills said: What have you guys seen from Sweeney that makes you ok writing off Kroft? Obviously it doesn't matter if he's never healthy, but if he can come back after the bye, or after the Miami game, I see no reasons provided by Sweeney to keep Kroft off the field. What does Kroft do that makes you think he is Better than Sweeney? http://www.nfl.com/player/tylerkroft/2552586/careerstats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Seems like a perfect fit to me. I feel like Milano will miss the Miami game minimum. Hammys linger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: What does Kroft do that makes you think he is Better than Sweeney? http://www.nfl.com/player/tylerkroft/2552586/careerstats 2017 looks pretty damn good to me. I watched him here in Cincy that year. He's legit. I do like Sweeney (and especially Knox), but they need to catch the ball consistently when thrown to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: What does Kroft do that makes you think he is Better than Sweeney? http://www.nfl.com/player/tylerkroft/2552586/careerstats If Sweeney can have a year like Kroft's 2017, then by all means, let's play Sweeney over a "healthy" Kroft. Health in quotes because I don't know if that's possible for Kroft. So far, I haven't been very impressed with Sweeney when it comes to the actual games that matter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 is this guy even good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, BuffaloBillies said: 2017 looks pretty damn good to me. I watched him here in Cincy that year. He's legit. I do like Sweeney (and especially Knox), but they need to catch the ball consistently when thrown to them. 42 Rec 404 yards of 62 targets Sweeney is currently on track for at best 24 Tgts. and much better blocker. So yeah Kroft is at this point expendable. Let me ask it this way. IF (and big IF) he ever gets healthy whos snaps and Targets you want him hawking 1 minute ago, SCBills said: If Sweeney can have a year like Kroft's 2017, then by all means, let's play Sweeney over a "healthy" Kroft. Health in quotes because I don't know if that's possible for Kroft. So far, I haven't been very impressed with Sweeney when it comes to the actual games that matter. Maybe then the Bills need to TGT Sweeney 62 times to have Krofts season if they do right now Sweeney would put up roughly 35 catches for 444.5 yards. SO YEP he would put up similar numbers in projection to a Healthy Kroft in 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: It's very expensive to fly players in from Tampa. First you have to pay the $279, then there's the extra leg room, another $60 plus you have those damn luggage fees. To the Ralphmobile! “By the way, Mr. Buccanon, gasoline isn’t cheap...” * You would have thought Buccanon’s name would have precluded him from being released. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: 42 Rec 404 yards of 62 targets Sweeney is currently on track for at best 24 Tgts. and much better blocker. So yeah Kroft is at this point expendable. Let me ask it this way. IF (and big IF) he ever gets healthy whos snaps and Targets you want him hawking I'm all for Sweeney/Knox and let Kroft go away. I was just responding you asking what about Kroft's stats were worthy of playing him. He did prove in 2017 (before injuries) that he's a legit TE (7 TDs, 9.6 avg per catch, 23 catches for first down). IF healthy, I would split time with Sweeney. If Kroft never sees the field, that's OK too. Don't feel that strongly about him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Tweener hybrid LB/SS. He's 6-1/211 and only 27. Put up decent numbers in Arizona. Depending on our injury situation I'd pull the trigger on Bucannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I would give Kroft Sweeney's snaps and some of Knox's. You're sure Sweeney is a better blocker than Kroft? Also maybe Kroft was earning targets more than Sweeney (also could just be the Cincy offense)? Either way definitely don't IR him thats silly cause it doesnt save you any money and I'm not sure theres an upgrade out there. I think hell be an incremental upgrade over Sweeney and Knox. A two TE set with Kroft and Knox has me super excited. They can both run routes and will put a ton of stress on the defense. I don't think Sweeney is putting that stress on the defense yet (very excited to see him develop though). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, YattaOkasan said: I would give Kroft Sweeney's snaps and some of Knox's. You're sure Sweeney is a better blocker than Kroft? Also maybe Kroft was earning targets more than Sweeney (also could just be the Cincy offense)? Either way definitely don't IR him thats silly cause it doesnt save you any money and I'm not sure theres an upgrade out there. I think hell be an incremental upgrade over Sweeney and Knox. A two TE set with Kroft and Knox has me super excited. They can both run routes and will put a ton of stress on the defense. I don't think Sweeney is putting that stress on the defense yet (very excited to see him develop though). Kroft got the Targets because Tyler Eifert missed the season with Injury. So Once Eifert hurt they had no other TEs. IN 2016 Eifert got hurt as well and Kroft still brought next to nothing So his ONE very pedestrian year he had was due to a Eifert Inj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 What does Tyler Kroft have to do with this topic? Come on people... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, dneveu said: is this guy even good? I think he’s been playing out of position but McD’s scheme is a nice fit Edited October 9, 2019 by YoloinOhio 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: What does Tyler Kroft have to do with this topic? Come on people... Mainly because it was suggested to IR him to open the roster spot for a player that would have more of an impact for the Bills than the person going on IR to make the room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Kroft got the Targets because Tyler Eifert missed the season with Injury. So Once Eifert hurt they had no other TEs. IN 2016 Eifert got hurt as well and Kroft still brought next to nothing So his ONE very pedestrian year he had was due to a Eifert Inj. Yes definitely got the opportunity because Eifert was injured. My point was more about him actually getting open when he got the opportunity. I can definitely appreciate your opinion that he was a good signing that doesnt look as necessary now because of Knox and Sweeney. I suspect he will be an upgrade when he comes back and don't think he should be IR'ed (I'm not sure it was even you who said it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, HOUSE said: It's very expensive to fly players in from Tampa. First you have to pay the $279, then there's the extra leg room, another $60 plus you have those damn luggage fees. lol - Ralph is cheap. Haven't heard that one in a while. Edited October 9, 2019 by Azucho98 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 One of the overall real strengths of this team is clearly and obviously its defensive coaching, from McDermott and Frazier as well as its position coaches, as well as the veteran presence in each unit. So players with an abundance of talent but limited production may possibly thrive on the Bills. Not all of them of course, and they have to truly buy into the process and system. I have no idea what kind of player/man/teammate Deone is. But I agree with others that his skillset seems like a good fit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Deone Buccaneers thread turns into Kroft vs Sweeney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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