Rams at Seattle, 8:20 ET on Fox AND NFLN

[whatdrought]

1 minute ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

Great game.  The Rams deserved the win, imo.  The most impressive I've seen Goff look.

 

 

I didn't watch that closely, but it seemed like he was playing his own game called "lets see how close can i come to having every pass intercepted." 

[Happy]

2 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

All I can say folks, is we better hope Andy Reid finally learns how to win a playoff game cause I don't trust anyone from the AFC to stop the Patriots. So it's up to us and KC. 

 

Maybe Baltimore...possibly

[whatdrought]

Just now, Happy Gilmore said:

 

Maybe Baltimore...possibly

 

Doubt that very much. The only time Lamar has seen good defenses he's been stymied. Imagine what they did to Allen, but without the all-world helping bail Allen out. Baltimores defense is one of the most underperforming units in the NFL right now.

[JESSEFEFFER]

Balls on target in tight windows.  Took them down the field with no time out. The pick was a bad drop by Everett.  

[Bubba Gump]

8 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

All I can say folks, is we better hope Andy Reid finally learns how to win a playoff game cause I don't trust anyone from the AFC to stop the Patriots. So it's up to us and KC. 

 

Buffalo silly.....

[GoBills808]

Great Thursday game

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Big pet peeve of mine is when teams celebrate over a missed FG. Yay— he missed it; good for you. Seahawks lucked out. 

 

(Yeah, I’m still bitter from the first Super Bowl

loss).

Edited October 4, 2019 by JR in Pittsburgh

[jkeerie]

46 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

Zuerlein with an uncharacteristic miss pinched it right by a millimeter

Russell Wilson said on the postgame it was the spirit of Paul Allen blowing the ball off to the right.

[mannc]

Not a huge believer in Goff, but I have to say he looked great on those last few drives.  He delivers the ball quickly, on-target and without fear.

 

And Russell Wilson is a great touch passer.  As good as anyone I’ve seen.

 

really fun to watch these guys tonight 

Edited October 4, 2019 by mannc

[NickelCity]

Love watching Wilson. Hell of a QB.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

9 hours ago, jkeerie said:

Okay...after seeing those pee green, mountain dew uniforms of the hawks, I'm definitely rooting for the Rams.

 

If your pee looks like that, seek medical help immediately 

 

unless mtn dew does that to your innards?

 

They hurt the eyes for sure.  They remind me of our Pan tho

 

 

 

 

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

5 hours ago, jkeerie said:

Russell Wilson said on the postgame it was the spirit of Paul Allen blowing the ball off to the right.

Probably Paul Allen screwing with ‘the Matrix’.  ?

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

They remind me of our Pan tho

?

[GunnerBill]

8 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

It's gonna be entertaining to watch @GunnerBill do somersaults to explain this away.

 

Not at all. I'd have been perfectly happy for them to take DK on day 2. Go back to the draft threads - it is all there. I did not, under any circumstances, want to spend a top 10 pick on him because it would have been an almighty reach. He has value, he has blazing speed and runs long routes fine. All the reasons he was not a first round pick were on display last night too. Inability to separate in short spaces and questionable hands (if Zay Jones had failed to come up with the 2 point conversion effort then this board would have exploded - and rightly so).

 

So far DK Metcalf is exactly who I thought he would be. He is an effective but one dimensional wide receiver. That dimension can be electrifying and game changing. He is a really good number 2 option. There were people here banging the table to draft him at #9 arguing he was a #1 receiver in the making. Those were the people I took issue with. He is a better version of Robert Foster.

[eball]

6 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

Maybe Baltimore...possibly

 

Baltimore's losses on D have been exposed over the past two weeks.  They excited everyone getting to 2-0 by beating up on Miami and squeaking by Arizona at home, but they are likely an 8-8 type of team.  Very big game for them this week at home vs. the Rudolph-led Steelers.

[Dopey]

6 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

Balls on target in tight windows.  Took them down the field with no time out. The pick was a bad drop by Everett.  

Yea, Kupp drop a catchable one just before that one too. Goff played better yesterday.

[Wayne Cubed]

8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Not at all. I'd have been perfectly happy for them to take DK on day 2. Go back to the draft threads - it is all there. I did not, under any circumstances, want to spend a top 10 pick on him because it would have been an almighty reach. He has value, he has blazing speed and runs long routes fine. All the reasons he was not a first round pick were on display last night too. Inability to separate in short spaces and questionable hands (if Zay Jones had failed to come up with the 2 point conversion effort then this board would have exploded - and rightly so).

 

So far DK Metcalf is exactly who I thought he would be. He is an effective but one dimensional wide receiver. That dimension can be electrifying and game changing. He is a really good number 2 option. There were people here banging the table to draft him at #9 arguing he was a #1 receiver in the making. Those were the people I took issue with. He is a better version of Robert Foster.

 

I don't really think you need to explain anything away. DK has 2 TDs this season. Where were all his supporters when he had all of 1 catch on 4 targets for 6 yards against the Cardinals? He still has questionable hands. He has similar production to Brown, a late 1st rd pick, thus far. You could argue they were both 2nd round picks. Certainly not top 10 picks.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

7 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

 

I don't really think you need to explain anything away. DK has 2 TDs this season. Where were all his supporters when he had all of 1 catch on 4 targets for 6 yards against the Cardinals? He still has questionable hands. He has similar production to Brown, a late 1st rd pick, thus far. You could argue they were both 2nd round picks. Certainly not top 10 picks.

 

Hypothetical:

 

Are 2 TDs better than 0 sacks? Or, if you're feeling defensive about our #9 pick, are 2 TDs better than a dozen or so completely blown pass blocking assignments?

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

25 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Not at all. I'd have been perfectly happy for them to take DK on day 2. Go back to the draft threads - it is all there. I did not, under any circumstances, want to spend a top 10 pick on him because it would have been an almighty reach. He has value, he has blazing speed and runs long routes fine. All the reasons he was not a first round pick were on display last night too. Inability to separate in short spaces and questionable hands (if Zay Jones had failed to come up with the 2 point conversion effort then this board would have exploded - and rightly so).

 

So far DK Metcalf is exactly who I thought he would be. He is an effective but one dimensional wide receiver. That dimension can be electrifying and game changing. He is a really good number 2 option. There were people here banging the table to draft him at #9 arguing he was a #1 receiver in the making. Those were the people I took issue with. He is a better version of Robert Foster.

 

Well, I'd say he's a MUCH better version of Foster, considering Foster's done absolutely nothing this season.

 

[GunnerBill]

15 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

 

I don't really think you need to explain anything away. DK has 2 TDs this season. Where were all his supporters when he had all of 1 catch on 4 targets for 6 yards against the Cardinals? He still has questionable hands. He has similar production to Brown, a late 1st rd pick, thus far. You could argue they were both 2nd round picks. Certainly not top 10 picks.

 

Yep. And to AJ Brown. I had those three:

 

1 AJ Brown

2 DK Metcalf

3 Marquise Brown

 

And I didn't have any of them as first rounders. I had them all as high 2nd rounders. I never suggested that any of the 3 of them couldn't play but to pick any of them at #9 would have been absurd.

[Wayne Cubed]

10 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Hypothetical:

 

Are 2 TDs better than 0 sacks? Or, if you're feeling defensive about our #9 pick, are 2 TDs better than a dozen or so completely blown pass blocking assignments?

 

 

Oh Joe, never change. 

 

The comment is on DK, not Oliver but carry on and when Oliver starts getting sacks, he will, you can change the goal post again!

 

I see you are ignoring his game against the Cardinals... the Bills really could have used that last week against the Pats** huh? 1 catch for 6 yards.

Edited October 4, 2019 by Wayne Cubed

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, Wayne Cubed said:

 

Oh Joe, never change. 

 

The comment is on DK, not Oliver but carry on and when Oliver starts getting sacks, he will, you can change the goal post again!

Au contraire.

If/When Oliver actually starts producing sacks, I'll be the first to cheer him. That's what I need to see from him, is actual game-changing sacks.

 

[YoloinOhio]

7 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

Maybe Baltimore...possibly

Their defense could be the worst in the league though 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

What I learned from this game:

1) DangerRuss still is

2) When asked about his D, Pete Carroll said "what D?"

3) Goff and the Rams are All That - until they aren't.  Their "clutch" gene needs to up its expression

 

Who was it here who, when Ken Norton was announced as the new DC of Seattle, said "this is how you waste Russ Wilson's best years?"

Man, that tackling. 

Seattle wants to go anywhere but home, they better fix it fast.

[zow2]

I heard some ridiculous stat, Russell Wilson’s last 19 games... he has 44 TDs and 4 ints.  That’s a QB.  That’s a man who knows how to play.

[mannc]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

What I learned from this game:

1) DangerRuss still is

2) When asked about his D, Pete Carroll said "what D?"

3) Goff and the Rams are All That - until they aren't.  Their "clutch" gene needs to up its expression

 

So Goff is responsible for the missed FG?  What else was he supposed to do?

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yep. And to AJ Brown. I had those three:

 

1 AJ Brown

2 DK Metcalf

3 Marquise Brown

 

And I didn't have any of them as first rounders. I had them all as high 2nd rounders. I never suggested that any of the 3 of them couldn't play but to pick any of them at #9 would have been absurd.

That’s fine.  The real issue was trading up for a projected guard in round 2 when Metcalf, Brown, McLaurin et al were available.  We’ll get to see AJ Brown up close this weekend.

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, mannc said:

That’s fine.  The real issue was trading up for a projected guard in round 2 when Metcalf, Brown, McLaurin et al were available.  We’ll get to see AJ Brown up close this weekend.

 

I had the exact same grade on AJ Brown and Cody Ford. I'd have been fine with picking AJ Brown there, I'd have even been fine with Metcalf there even if he wasn't the top ranked player on my board. I repeat again that I had no issue with anyone who wanted to pick Metcalf in round 2. My issue is purely with anyone who wanted top spend a top 10 pick on him. I said before the draft he was touch and go to be taken in round one when the consensus was he was a definite first rounder. I didn't share the shock and amazement that he slipped to where he did. I can see the reasoning. But I would not have been against the Bills taking him or AJ at their pick. I think AJ is more complete but less explosive (I see Robert Woods to some extent) and Metcalf is explosive but has some holes. There wasn't a true #1 WR in the class so it was always pick your poison. I think Metcalf landed in a perfect spot in Seattle because they don't ask their receivers to run a really complex or complicated route tree.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

18 minutes ago, mannc said:

So Goff is responsible for the missed FG?  What else was he supposed to do?

 

Where do you people get this stuff?

I wrote:

3) Goff and the Rams are All That - until they aren't.  Their "clutch" gene needs to up its expression

 

How do you translate this to "So Goff is responsible for the missed FG?"

 

I mean, I'm legit curious - what thought process goes through one's mind when one reads a sentence that begins "Goff AND THE RAMS are All That - until they aren't", and decide

1) it means the writer believes Goff is responsible for everything - the AND THE RAMS part of the sentence was just there as filler, and didn't really mean anything like, oh, maybe spreading responsibility around the team?  Dropped passes and etc?

2) therefore the writer believes Goff is responsible for the missed field goal

You then go on to "what else was he supposed to do?" which is apparently intended as rhetorical, but is an addressable question

 

What else is Goff AND THE RAMS supposed to do -

Oh, kinda like other teams who have lost a game by a missed FG, maybe play differently all around so the game doesn't turn on a missed FG at the end?

 

[mannc]

3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Where do you people get this stuff?

I wrote:

3) Goff and the Rams are All That - until they aren't.  Their "clutch" gene needs to up its expression

 

How do you translate this to "So Goff is responsible for the missed FG?"

 

I mean, I'm legit curious - what thought process goes through one's mind when one reads a sentence that begins "Goff AND THE RAMS are All That - until they aren't", and decide

1) it means the writer believes Goff is responsible for everything - the AND THE RAMS part of the sentence was just there as filler, and didn't really mean anything like, oh, maybe spreading responsibility around the team?  Dropped passes and etc?

2) therefore the writer believes Goff is responsible for the missed field goal

You then go on to "what else was he supposed to do?" which is apparently intended as rhetorical, but is an addressable question

 

What else is Goff AND THE RAMS supposed to do -

Oh, kinda like other teams who have lost a game by a missed FG, maybe play differently all around so the game doesn't turn on a missed FG at the end?

 

It was a fair question.If Zeurlein makes the kick, are you questioning Goff’s “clutch gene”? 

[Mr. WEO]

Wilson is the best QB in the NFL 3 years running.

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

Wilson is the best QB in the NFL 3 years running.

 

He is phenomenal. He is a much better QB now than the guy who won a Superbowl. This Seattle team has a legit championship shot despite being nowhere near their SB team in any other facets. Wilson is now on that level where the whole team runs through him.

[Mr. WEO]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

He is phenomenal. He is a much better QB now than the guy who won a Superbowl. This Seattle team has a legit championship shot despite being nowhere near their SB team in any other facets. Wilson is now on that level where the whole team runs through him.

 

 

He IS that team.  The most exciting player in the NFL year after year.

[Gugny]

4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Wilson is the best QB in the NFL 3 years running.

 

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He is phenomenal. He is a much better QB now than the guy who won a Superbowl. This Seattle team has a legit championship shot despite being nowhere near their SB team in any other facets. Wilson is now on that level where the whole team runs through him.

 

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

He IS that team.  The most exciting player in the NFL year after year.

 

He's done very well for not being black enough.

 

The dude is phenomenal.