Bills (3-0) vs Bengals (0-3) Postgame thread

[K-9]

36 minutes ago, inkman said:

Schedule means nothing. I can't tell you how much I loathe the season predictions based on the schedule. You know what I can guarantee, the Bills will lose to one of these so called 'cream puffs' on the upcoming schedule. They will lose at least one if not several games that the so called experts think they should win. So let's not get ahead of ourselves. 

Any chance they might beat a team the so called experts think they should lose?

[GG]

1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

Long way from Abdul and the Animals

[Blank Stare]

8 minutes ago, HerdMentality said:

Combined wins of our opponents so far: 0.

Can only play who is on your schedule. 

[K-9]

20 minutes ago, JohninMinn. said:

Knox was lucky not to have had a face mask penalty called.

No grabbing motion made it an easy non call. You are allowed to straight arm a guy in the face mask just as long as you don’t grab it. 

[GunnerBill]

12 minutes ago, x-BillzeBubba said:

Is it just me or was Ed Oliver invisible 

 

Thought he had a good first quarter. Disappeared after that. Wasn't on the field as much today. Not sure if that was gameplan related. 

[inkman]

6 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Any chance they might beat a team the so called experts think they should lose?

Yes because other teams are stupid too. 

[MILFHUNTER#518]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

OMG I hate how this team goes into a shell when playing with the lead. Can we just stop getting cute and stop going into a shell. 
 

also what the heck is going on after halftime. Three weeks this team looks like trash after half. 
 

glad for the win but damn it should have never been close. 

You think we looked like trash in the 2nd half of the Jersey Jets game?

[Reed83HOF]

 

[RaoulDuke79]

This team is doing everything right.  The drive to put us on top was a huge turning point.  There's still some progress to be made, but I'm more confident than I have been in years.GO BILLS!!!

[Blank Stare]

Simply amazing to me how long/frequently we’ve gone without a 300 yard passer. Especially, when you consider how many times we’ve been behind in years past. Incredible when you think about it. 

[Solomon Grundy]

What is going on with the offense in the 2nd half of games this year? Are we not able to adjust to what the defenses are doing? We won't have a chance with the Patriots if this isn't corrected. 

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

Fichtners been eating too much at tailgates??

[MILFHUNTER#518]

1 hour ago, inkman said:

I think there is a one missing there. This is not a good football team. 

It wasn't great. The Bills aren't good and will get smoked next week. 

They shouldn't have been down in the first place. The Bills aren't good. 

We just won and are 3-0, and you have to be like this? Go back to Sabrespace, man. Your shtick works there.

 

 

9 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

Any update on his condition?

[PromoTheRobot]

Who asked that killer instinct question? 

[Apocalypse Nuts]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

they do. The play calling with a lead is atrocious three games in a three games of trash 3QTRs. That is a trend that cannot be ignored. 

 

Is it just me, or are they pass-happy in the 1st half building up points and runs mainly go up-the-gut then in the 2nd half, when they have Singletary, they start mixing up run plays with those beautifully blocked off-tackle and outside runs?  It's a brilliant plan if you can execute it THE ENTIRE GAME, which they are clearly not able to do yet.  It's kinda sorta keeping it on the pedal, if they can execute.  Get the opposing defense on it's heals with the passing game first, the demoralize then and break their spirit with a  dynamic run game to close it out.  We saw what it can do in the 2nd half of the Jets game. 

 

I don't know.  Maybe just wishful thinking.  I do feel like getting in a bunch of passing out of the gate is at least building experience for Allen much more rapidly than establishing the run game first which works but is also pretty boring unless they're breaking off 30 yard runs all day. 

 

Definitely stinking up the join BIG TIME in 3rd quarters so far.  You have to think it's due in some part to defenses making half-time adjustments.  Again, maybe wishful thinking.  Something is definitely not working after the half and it sucks the life out of games that should be high scoring. 

Edited September 22, 2019 by Distorted One

[PromoTheRobot]

10 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said:

We just won and are 3-0, and you have to be like this? Go back to Sabrespace, man. Your shtick works there.

 

 

Any update on his condition?

 

This game is like "what color dress?" Everyone sees something different.

[Reed83HOF]

11 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said:

We just won and are 3-0, and you have to be like this? Go back to Sabrespace, man. Your shtick works there.

 

 

Any update on his condition?

[Boatdrinks]

11 minutes ago, the skycap said:

What is going on with the offense in the 2nd half of games this year? Are we not able to adjust to what the defenses are doing? We won't have a chance with the Patriots if this isn't corrected. 

Well, it hasn’t been playcalling imo. They’ve simply had poor execution and definitely issues with pass protection. Bottom line, this team isn’t a finished product. They truly don’t have a consistent , reliable running game to lean on and the passing game needs another weapon. Allen has been trying to force things in each game thus far, and it has cost them with turnovers and stalled drives. This looks like a team that could win 7 games or could in ten if things fall their way. They still have a lotto work on. Lost in all this is that special teams still seems shaky as well. 

[Mojo44]

21 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

That will be on Tosh.0

[PromoTheRobot]

Just now, Boatdrinks said:

Well, it hasn’t been playcalling imo. They’ve simply had poor execution and definitely issues with pass protection. Bottom line, this team isn’t a finished product. They truly don’t have a consistent , reliable running game to lean on and the passing game needs another weapon. Allen has been trying to force things in each game thus far, and it has cost them with turnovers and stalled drives. This looks like a team that could win 7 games or could in ten if things fall their way. They still have a lotto work on. Lost in all this is that special teams still seems shaky as well. 

 

It's when the offensive line gets blown up. Happening a lot.

[Apocalypse Nuts]

I'm usually not one to support the naysayers but I feel it's warranted right now.  It's realistic at this point.  Allen proved it with that STUPID pick today.  Atrocious!  He just cannot, absolute cannot do that anymore.   I think we all sense this could be very powerful offense if they can put together a complete game without turnovers.  We gotta remember that JA is still extremely raw though.  Realistically we may not see a ton of success this season as he still has so much more to learn that he didn't get a chance to in college.

Edited September 22, 2019 by Distorted One

[Reader]

4 minutes ago, Distorted One said:

 

Is it just me, or are they pass-happy in the 1st half building up points and runs mainly go up-the-gut then in the 2nd half, when they have Singletary, they start mixing up run plays with those beautifully blocked off-tackle and outside runs?  It's a brilliant plan if you can execute it THE ENTIRE GAME, which they are clearly not able to do yet.  It's kinda sorta keeping it on the pedal, if they can execute.  Get the opposing defense on it's heals with the passing game first, the demoralize then and break their spirit with a  dynamic run game to close it out.  We saw what it can do in the 2nd half of the Jets game. 

 

I don't know.  Maybe just wishful thinking.  I do feel like getting in a bunch of passing out of the gate is at least building experience for Allen much more rapidly than establishing the run game first which works but is also pretty boring unless they're breaking off 30 yard runs all day. 

 

Definitely stinking up the join BIG TIME in 3rd quarters so far.  You have to think it's due in some part to defenses making half-time adjustments.  Again, maybe wishful thinking.  Something is definitely not working after the half and it sucks the life out of games that should be high scoring. 

 

The only thing I'd add is that running the ball in the 2nd half seems to be working or at least it did this game. It was frustrating getting to their 45 yard line only to stall once we started passing more.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said:

Well, it hasn’t been playcalling imo. They’ve simply had poor execution and definitely issues with pass protection. Bottom line, this team isn’t a finished product. They truly don’t have a consistent , reliable running game to lean on and the passing game needs another weapon. Allen has been trying to force things in each game thus far, and it has cost them with turnovers and stalled drives. This looks like a team that could win 7 games or could in ten if things fall their way. They still have a lotto work on. Lost in all this is that special teams still seems shaky as well. 

 

You're nuts if you think 7 is a possibility. 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

 

This game is like "what color dress?" Everyone sees something different.

Agreed. My take is if this was our early season “egg” offensively, wow the future looks bright—this was the type of game we would absolutely have lost in previous years—instead, just like game 1, we overcame the mistakes exactly when absolutely needed most, and show immense confidence/grit by doing so. Pretty? No. Ugly? At times, but as the cliche goes, style points count for nothing, wins and losses do. I expect maximum effort against the Pats, and hopefully we have Singletary back for that game...

2 minutes ago, Distorted One said:

I'm usually not one to support the naysayers but I feel it's warranted right now.  It's realistic at this point.  Allen proved it with that STUPID pick today.  Atrocious!  He just cannot, absolute cannot do that anymore. 

And yet he made enough great plays when it counted, to overcome and deliver the W. Let the kid play and I think we end up with more good than bad, usually

[Apocalypse Nuts]

1 minute ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Agreed. My take is if this was our early season “egg” offensively, wow the future looks bright—this was the type of game we would absolutely have lost in previous years—instead, just like game 1, we overcame the mistakes exactly when absolutely needed most, and show immense confidence/grit by doing so. Pretty? No. Ugly? At times, but as the cliche goes, style points count for nothing, wins and losses do. I expect maximum effort against the Pats, and hopefully we have Singletary back for that game...

 

I sincerely hope Daboll has some really great stuff up his sleeve for the Pats.  If they don't, BB will eat Allen alive again this year.

[Boatdrinks]

2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

You're nuts if you think 7 is a possibility. 

I disagree. It’s a possibility, as we’ve seen in past years. We don’t know what this team can do against a team that actually has a winning record yet. They have quite a few weaknesses right now. It’s the NFL, so you’re nuts if you think it’s not a possibility. So many things can happen between now and week 17. 

[The Wiz]

19 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said:

We just won and are 3-0, and you have to be like this? Go back to Sabrespace, man. Your shtick works there.

 

 

Any update on his condition?

Still a bills fan unfortunately. 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

Just now, Distorted One said:

 

I sincerely hope Daboll has some really great stuff up his sleeve for the Pats.  If they don't, BB will eat Allen alive again this year.

I have no doubt Allen will acquit himself well. Brady needs to be worried about our D too, BTW.

[Apocalypse Nuts]

5 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Agreed. My take is if this was our early season “egg” offensively, wow the future looks bright—this was the type of game we would absolutely have lost in previous years—instead, just like game 1, we overcame the mistakes exactly when absolutely needed most, and show immense confidence/grit by doing so. Pretty? No. Ugly? At times, but as the cliche goes, style points count for nothing, wins and losses do. I expect maximum effort against the Pats, and hopefully we have Singletary back for that game...

And yet he made enough great plays when it counted, to overcome and deliver the W. Let the kid play and I think we end up with more good than bad, usually

 

Yeah he really seems unflappable and never, ever gives up.  Overcoming a lot of bad stuff already shows his grit and lets us keep hope alive on day s like today.

Edited September 22, 2019 by Distorted One

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, Boatdrinks said:

I disagree. It’s a possibility, as we’ve seen in past years. We don’t know what this team can do against a team that actually has a winning record yet. They have quite a few weaknesses right now. It’s the NFL, so you’re nuts if you think it’s not a possibility. So many things can happen between now and week 17. 

 

They're sweeping the fish and jets. That's 6. 

[Cripple Creek]

1 hour ago, Paulus said:

So, you choose to dig in with your nonsense?

 

 

Please.  Everyone is happy the team is 3-0.  Anyone who doesn't see warts is not watching the games. They have, for whatever reason, had long periods of ineffectiveness in each game.  The first 3 quarters vs. the jets was trash in terms of cashing in drives. The third quarter today was ugly. So, pointing out that they have come out after halftime flat is accurate. 

[Bills Oil Company]

43 minutes ago, x-BillzeBubba said:

Is it just me or was Ed Oliver invisible 

Against a banged up Cinci OL too that includes turnstile guard John Miller! 

Edited September 22, 2019 by Bills Oil Company

[PromoTheRobot]

2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

I disagree. It’s a possibility, as we’ve seen in past years. We don’t know what this team can do against a team that actually has a winning record yet. They have quite a few weaknesses right now. It’s the NFL, so you’re nuts if you think it’s not a possibility. So many things can happen between now and week 17. 

 

Well the good news is we play few teams with winning records.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Reed83HOF]

Have to really tip my cap to Cover1
 

 

[Apocalypse Nuts]

Just now, Cripple Creek said:

Please.  Everyone is happy the team is 3-0.  Anyone who doesn't see warts is not watching the games. They have, for whatever reason, had long periods of ineffectiveness in each game.  The first 3 quarters vs. the jets was trash in terms of cashing in drives. The third quarter today was ugly. So, pointing out that they have come out after halftime flat is accurate. 

 

Those 3rd quarters were U_G_L_Y you ain't got no alibi ugly.

[Reed83HOF]

 

[Boatdrinks]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Well the good news is we play few teams with winning records.

That’s a fair point and will likely be helpful. However, I’m still not sure what this team is capable of and what it isn’t. I’ll take the wins to be sure, but there are problems. We’ll see if they can overcome them. 

[vincec]

I'm confused by the Bills RB strategy. I thought it was a "go with the hot hand" type approach, but Gore was averaging 6 yards per carry but he's not getting the rock. Instead they are running the QB, McKenzie, Yeldon. Can Gore just not carry the ball 25 times if needed? If that's the case then they need another option besides Yeldon so that they don't have to run Allen and the WRs so much.

[PromoTheRobot]

1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said:

That’s a fair point and will likely be helpful. However, I’m still not sure what this team is capable of and what it isn’t. I’ll take the wins to be sure, but there are problems. We’ll see if they can overcome them. 

 

Well prepare yourself now for the fact that they will lose some games.