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39 minutes ago, Logic said:


I'm with you on this.

The Bills can survive just about any other injury and still win some games. If Allen is hurt, though? Not so much.

And lest anyone say that Allen is a special case because he's a raw youngster: Lamar Jackson isn't playing tonight, and he DAMN sure needs reps as badly as Allen does.

It's not exactly the same if they started Lamar he'd be running no need to have him take an extra beating.

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1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said:

 

I'll be surprised if he ever plays a full season again

 

From ESPN's  David Newton tonight;

 

"Cam Newton's surgically repaired shoulder has been the focus for much of the Carolina Panthers' preseason, but the focus turned to the franchise quarterback's left foot and ankle after a first-quarter sack in Thursday night's preseason game at New England.

Team medical staff examined Newton's left foot on the sideline after the sack, his second in three series. The 2015 NFL MVP then walked to the locker room, the team later announcing he would not return."

 

After reading this I remembered a tweet from one of the Panther's beat reporters during the Bills / Panthers game about the Panther's suspect O-Line.

 

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Reason they held Cam out was to not get him killed against this front. It wasn’t about pitch count, or analytics. We all knew Cam was going to take a hits. And sure as *****, you saw how the OL looked. They knew they had matchup problems up front and didn’t want to exploit QB1.

5:21 PM - 16 Aug 2019
 
 

Looks like Ellis was right on the money.  Cam sacked twice in three series tonight against the Pats and knocked out of the game.  The Panthers are going nowhere this year if they can't keep Cam upright.

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

 

 

 

 

so this is absolutely the pot calling the kettle..but damn that looks uncomfortable

 

I’m heading to the barber tomorrow. I don’t want to be confused with THAT! 

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3 minutes ago, Heitz said:

Yeah, but that TD drive against back-ups to start the second half, tho!  FITZMAGIC!

 

Get Rosen in there so I can apply the dreaded Eye Test...

 

Fitz has a 105.3 QB Rating for this game! ?

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15 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

yea, i was not talking about his hair!

 

Well, I was planning on walking. And it’s a nice little barber shop in Nashville. I’ll pack a bag of celery for my trip. 

 

Hey, it would be a start! 

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4 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

Good drive by Rosen

 

He's looked good against backups. When he faced starters last week, he didn't look as good though.

I think Flores is wise to not start him. They can wait until mid-season after Fitz has sucked for a few games and everyone knows their season is over.

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17 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I was so confused by this at first...

 

 

There's only room for one "Josh Allen" on this board...

 

 

Is he the new Right Josh? “Right Now” Josh? So many Joshes, so little time.

14 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said:

Redskins' Jordan Reed gets injured whenever he steps onto a football field.  Tonight, after not playing all preseason, another concussion.  This guy will be a pathetic cripple in retirement.  There should be a law against this insanity (as well as the Redskins). 

People were trying to push me to take him in fantasy - I was like hell naw. Been there done that. Not getting burnt again.

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41 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

 

He's looked good against backups. When he faced starters last week, he didn't look as good though.

I think Flores is wise to not start him. They can wait until mid-season after Fitz has sucked for a few games and everyone knows their season is over.

Yeah but you know Fitz isn't the answer so why wait. Trading for Rosen was buying a cheap lottery ticket might as well find out if you're a winner.

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3 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Yeah but you know Fitz isn't the answer so why wait. Trading for Rosen was buying a cheap lottery ticket might as well find out if you're a winner.

Agree. I can’t think of a single reason to start Fitz. Play Rosen, see what you have. Then determine what you need to do in the draft. You have to evaluate him, plain and simple. 

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3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Agree. I can’t think of a single reason to start Fitz. Play Rosen, see what you have. Then determine what you need to do in the draft. You have to evaluate him, plain and simple. 

I don’t disagree with you from a strategic long term standpoint; however, the dichotomy is that you at least have to pretend to be trying to win each game for your fanbase, which makes Fitz the better suited short term win one game this week answer over Rosen, I think that’s why. Once Fitzy bottoms out, then seamless logical transition to “right” Josh. 

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2 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

I don’t disagree with you from a strategic long term standpoint; however, the dichotomy is that you at least have to pretend to be trying to win each game for your fanbase, which makes Fitz the better suited short term win one game this week answer over Rosen, I think that’s why. Once Fitzy bottoms out, then seamless logical transition to “right” Josh. 

I’m not sure fitzy is good enough to warrant that type of fan response. He’s been so bad at times and been through the Fitz circle of life so much that I don’t know if he even presents the mirage of trying to win.... jmo 

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5 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

I don’t disagree with you from a strategic long term standpoint; however, the dichotomy is that you at least have to pretend to be trying to win each game for your fanbase, which makes Fitz the better suited short term win one game this week answer over Rosen, I think that’s why. Once Fitzy bottoms out, then seamless logical transition to “right” Josh. 

Yeah but pretty much everyone sees this season being a pile of hot garbage for them(are their fans actually optimistic?) so why not a hot pile of garbage that might tell you something.

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Just now, Warcodered said:

Yeah but pretty much everyone sees this season being a pile of hot garbage for them(are their fans actually optimistic?) so why not a hot pile of garbage that might tell you something.

I’m with you—but I don’t think you can be that obvious about it as a coaching staff, at least not when everyone starts out the season tied for 1st place in the division. Let hope spring eternal for at least the first 3 weeks or so.

7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I’m not sure fitzy is good enough to warrant that type of fan response. He’s been so bad at times and been through the Fitz circle of life so much that I don’t know if he even presents the mirage of trying to win.... jmo 

Which speaks volumes about the confidence Rosen engenders coming in behind Fitzy! 

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7 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

I’m with you—but I don’t think you can be that obvious about it as a coaching staff, at least not when everyone starts out the season tied for 1st place in the division. Let hope spring eternal for at least the first 3 weeks or so.

Which speaks volumes about the confidence Rosen engenders coming in behind Fitzy! 

Yeah but that's the kind of thing that results in Peterman starting against the Ravens it was pointless and mercifully over quick but McDermott still gets crap for that.

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Just now, Warcodered said:

Yeah but that's the kind of thing that results in Peterman starting against the Ravens it was pointless and mercifully over quick but McDermott still gets crap for that.

I don’t know if Flores survives this year either way—regardless of expectations. He’s going to want to at least keep the games competitive. So glad we’re looking in the rear view mirror on this type of QB uncertainty issue!

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4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Lol Trace McSorley out there carving up the Iggles 

I like him a lot and if the Ravens cut him we should really think about adding him to the PS.  Much better than Tyree IMO.  Some of the same flaws as Allen coming out just with less physical tools.  That said he can and will run and he isn't terrible throwing the ball.  Showed some moxie in college as well.

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6 hours ago, Philo Beddoe said:

Bengals tag line this season: #SeizetheDEY

 

Yea or Nay?

Nay. If it only because it can be taken two ways.  As I'm sure you know, the "dey" refers to their thing "Who Dey (think gonna beat dem Bengals?"  So you could be seizing dey who think dey gonna beat dem Bengals which is the way they want it but given the meaning of Carpe Diem (Sieze the Day) one could also say Yes! We will seize upon the idea of the "dey" and be dey who beat dem bengals, damn the torpedoes.

 

Side note, I really hate the Bengals. My uncle is a Bengals fan for absolutely no lordly reason other than to be contrary in a place filled with Eagles and Steelers fan (he roots for the freaking Pirates in baseball - ardently.  Explain to me a person who loves the Pirates but hates the Steelers).  Before we got married my wife and I did a suicide pool for a couple years in a row and we had a rule when it came to picking, if you couldn't decide who to pick, the default was "When in doubt, Cincinnati sucks." and you chose whoever was playing against them.  She talked about it during her speech at our rehearsal dinner.  It was awesome. 

18 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Is that a pacifier or has his beard kicked the chinstrap off his chin?   

FitzBinky

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I just saw the mess in Winnepeg- how does the NFL allow that to happen? I appreciate they want to expand the game but this type of issue has popped up at least a few times and it is a waste of time and money and effort because no good will is built on only backups playing. NFL needs to ensure fields are up to standard before agreeing to game.

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