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Bills TC Day 14 (8/13) - joint practice with Panthers in Spartanburg, SC


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1 hour ago, MAGA-Man said:

 

Allen doesn't seem like the type to hold a grudge, not like Kelly.

 

He does a really good job of coming off as a choir boy, but I think deep down he has that crazy level of competitiveness in him that’s borderline obsessive. He gives glimpses into it if you really look for it.

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1 minute ago, Juice_32 said:

 

He does a really good job of coming off as a choir boy, but I think deep down he has that crazy level of competitiveness in him that’s borderline obsessive. He gives glimpses into it if you really look for it.

Yeah like that ping pong game they had a video of between him and Eddie Yarbrough. Got him to call the first one a warmup so they went again though I still think he lost.

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2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Yeah like that ping pong game they had a video of between him and Eddie Yarbrough. Got him to call the first one a warmup so they went again though I still think he lost.

 

Exactly, or when Tyree said he could throw it farther than him. The Ramsey game, which someone else referenced. He’s polished when the camera is on, but he’s a different animal between the lines.

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2 hours ago, MAGA-Man said:

 

Things will get real for McDermott and Bean (rather quickly)  if the addition of Beasley and Brown do not change Allen's completion percentage, so hope his convo with Kuechly was highly insightful.

I dont see him as inaccurate.  You dont hit the windows and throws Allen routinely makes if you are an inaccurate/flawed passer.  Leading the league in air yards per attempt by a wide margin is more to do with his completion % than the inability to hit a check down or an out route.  Completion % is less important if he gets 40, 50, 60 yard pass plays.  If he doesnt have those and his completion % is still low you may be onto something.

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4 hours ago, eball said:

 

Quick recap:  they really only watched the offense because of the way the fields are set up.  Josh looked great and they loved his decisiveness with the ball.  Beasley's immediate separation is amazing.  Ray Ray showed good hands.  Andre Roberts "will have a big role" in the offense -- can run all routes.  OL talk -- Bates got some snaps at C, might be able to make himself valuable being able to play any position on the line.  Morse looks very close to a return.

    I couldn’t figure out who the other guy taking center snaps was. I was thinking it might be Boetger. Couldn’t see names or numbers from the side. 

    I don’t believe Bates looked good.

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2 hours ago, KCNC said:

Wow, thanks for all the info.  I will be there tomorrow (2hr45 min drive).  Looking forward to it!

You don’t HAVE to go to the EZ.

The hill is farther away but if you have binoculars you can see more. I wasn’t the only Bills fan up there.

Plus, you do get a breeze up there. It was 91 when I got back to my car at 11:15 so bring water and an umbrella if you have one.

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27 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Outside of Beasley we have a lot of WRs who drop balls way too much and they don't have any real stand out at the position.

 

Its one of the reasons I don't expect our offense to be top 10 or even 15. I just hope they can crack top 20 and the defense picks up where it left off while improving even more, specifically in the red zone.

   Well I hate like BLLEP to agree with the inimitable Mr. The Law but..... Yeah, our receivers And TEs need to do a better job of holding the ball when it hits them in the hands or chest. Beasley is a pleasure to watch but he was the only consistent one I saw today.

 

 

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41 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

    I couldn’t figure out who the other guy taking center snaps was. I was thinking it might be Boetger. Couldn’t see names or numbers from the side. 

    I don’t believe Bates looked good.

 

I believe Boettger took center snaps against Indy so it was likely him. 

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8 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Wow Sean, could you find a goofier hat than that?

LA, I'm no dermatologist but I'm thinking McD is worried that since his jibe requires constant exposure to the sun, he will get a visit from Buck Melanoma if he's not careful.   For a light skinned Irishman you gotta get full coverage! 

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2 hours ago, MAGA-Man said:

 

It's not just the %, it's also the number of pass attempts. they need to at least double.  This is a passing league and the Bills don't seem to want to play that way.

 

Allen doesn't have to throw it all day. Just the threat of him airing it out means defenses have to cover more of the field. Spread out D, more run lanes. Play the run, Allen airs it out. Hopefully it's a nightmare for DC's.

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6 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

Bills vs. Panthers Pregame Party

 

Friday, Aug. 16, 4:00 p.m.

Tavern on the Tracks

1411 South Tryon St, Charlotte, North Carolina 28203

Tavern on the Tracks has decent wings but a nice beef on weck and Labatts for those people.

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16 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

Its the maddenization of football.  Fans forget that the players are people too. People require training, practice, etc. Its not like once an achievement is unlocked the players plays at that level in perpetuity. They have to continue to work at it.  Joint training camp is an interesting idea. Injuries are a risk, we shouldn't pretend they aren't, but there is so much more to gain from competition. 

But Josh Allen, Ed Oliver and Tre White are all X factors in my franchise so I never train them anymore and I have won 2 superbowls in 5 years.

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1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

what pro sport did you  play?

 

 

 

While he’s sleeping, I’ll take a few stabs going with the Ace thing.. Tennis?? Nah. Poker? maybe.. Golf? ?️‍Nah. Volleyball? ?‍♂️

 

I’ve got it! Professional Video Game Fighter Ace!?

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14 hours ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said:

It was crazy how many Bills fans were there.

 

Big Bummer though was none of the players really signed autographs after practice. Josh signed like 5. My boy was one of the lucky ones.

 

John Brown met his family right next to all the fans and didn’t sign one single thing. Shaq Lawson had an interview and about 2 dozen fans wanted his autograph, he just walked away. All the rest just left. Nothing. A lot of fans were disappointed. 

 

Millionaires dont won't to grovel to the peasants.

 

I understand fans want autographs but i could care less. The only reason i would want one is if i could make a ton of money on it or they were a personal friend. Otherwise its not worth  my time, they are just people who put their pants one leg at a time.

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8 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Allen doesn't have to throw it all day. Just the threat of him airing it out means defenses have to cover more of the field. Spread out D, more run lanes. Play the run, Allen airs it out. Hopefully it's a nightmare for DC's.

you have to be successful throwing the ball for it to become a threat

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4 minutes ago, nucci said:

you have to be successful throwing the ball for it to become a threat

 

I disagree. As a DC are you seriously NOT going to cover Brown and Foster downfield because you don't think Allen is accurate enough to hit them?? Even at 50% that's a 1 in 2 chance of a home run!! 

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2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I disagree. As a DC are you seriously NOT going to cover Brown and Foster downfield because you don't think Allen is accurate enough to hit them?? Even at 50% that's a 1 in 2 chance of a home run!! 

You have to cover everyone regardless, don't you? But if Allen doesn't complete a few long ones there won't be extra coverage on our WRs....and it's a TD, not a home run. That's baseball...?

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Just now, nucci said:

You have to cover everyone regardless, don't you? But if Allen doesn't complete a few long ones there won't be extra coverage on our WRs....and it's a TD, not a home run. That's baseball...?

 

DUHHHHHH! No s**t Sherlock.

 

Ye of little faith. Dabol is going to put Allen's strengths to full use. You win not with completion percentage, but with the most "home runs."

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Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

 

DUHHHHHH! No s**t Sherlock.

 

Ye of little faith. Dabol is going to put Allen's strengths to full use. You win not with completion percentage, but with the most "home runs."

I don't have faith....I do think we'll have a good team and Allen will play well though. I think we finally have stability on the coaching staff and a more talented team. I will be pissed if they don't make the playoffs

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Didn't have time to read through all of the posts, but I was hoping someone could answer this. 

 

Who would you say came out on top of the joint practice? Our D vs. Their O and vice versa?  

 

TIA for the replies. 

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1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

DUHHHHHH! No s**t Sherlock.

 

Ye of little faith. Dabol is going to put Allen's strengths to full use. You win not with completion percentage, but with the most "home runs."

Look no further than the Yankees for comps. Can’t manufacture runs, so-so Pitching with fantastic defense and The LOOOONG BALL! Running away with the AL East. 2 wins shy of 27 straight winning seasons.

 

Chicks dig the LOOOONG BALL!

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2 quick hit notes I failed to include in my summary of yesterday's camp going-ons, but should have--

 

--There was a Bills fan who had made his own T-short honoring Pancho, "In Memory of Pancho Billa, RIP" stenciled across the back, and all of the autographs this fan got were on the shirt, thought it was pretty cool. 

 

--There was another Bills fan who canvassed the section looking for Sellers of any Josh Allen jersey on the spot--said his buddy forgot his and really needed one. Was offering $200 cash on the spot. Thought it was a joke at first, but another fan (who was rocking a sweet Kelly SB XXV patch jersey) took him up on it, provided the buyer also threw in the shirt off his back, which was a Bills Hawaiian themed number, also very cool looking. The buyer absolutely did that, lol. Paid 200 bucks plus the shirt off his back, to get the Allen jersey (by so doing, he flashed us his charging Buffalo tattoo on his chest--said he got that when the made the playoffs again in '17). Meanwhile, I stayed pat with the Allen jersey in my bag, and wound up with Beane's autograph on it. :)

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On 8/13/2019 at 4:57 PM, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Some random observations from attending my first ever TC:

 

--Not sure how Wofford's facilities/feel stacks up to St.JF for the fans, but I was duly impressed with the overall "niceness." The only negative I have to gripe about is that finding/locating the correct access points, parking to the field and TC grounds, left much to be desired--signage was poor and workers while nice and exhibiting Southern charm, were not great at giving further directions, jmo. I teamed up with another solo traveling Bills fan who was in a similar boat, and eventually we made our way to a lot that had Shuttle access, and that ended up being the best solution--so I got to the grounds about 15 min. after practices had already started.

 

--By virtue of being sheep following the crowd in front of us in order to find where we needed to go (signage people!), my new travel companion and I wound up queuing in a line at the very state of the art fieldhouse by the shuttle drop off, and wouldn't you know it, there was a Bills photog taking everyone's picture with Billy Buffalo, and welcoming us to camp--very nice. Next to Billy Buffalo, was a Bills alumnus signing autographs...I'm ashamed to admit neither of us could figure out who it was at first, and neither could a fan behind us who'd just flown in from Seattle (he said for business, and it just worked out for him to come to camp also)--then I caught sight of the glossy printouts he was signing of himself for the fans, and it was none other than Nate Clements--another nice touch brought to you by One Buffalo! I thanked him for his Bills service after collecting my freebie signed swag, and off we went to the field level.    

 

--Bills fans were "segregated" to a viewing area at the left side end zones of the two practice fields, while the Panthers fans were treated to better sideline viewing--however, this may have inadvertently backfired on the organizers, as it became painfully obvious that Bills fans outnumbered the locals, and wide swaths of green viewing lawn were visible in the Panthers section. Great job at getting out there, southern Bills Mafia (As well as a not insignificant number of NYers, from convo snippets I overheard along the way). It was incredibly gratifying to see all of the Bills fans out in such force away from home, and I think it even caught the Bills FO off guard some? More on that later. In terms of the viewing, it was hit or miss for those of us without media or VIP passes--simply a function of being in the end zone areas 5-6 fan lines deep from the fencing, and inexplicably having a large cart of some kind parked directly behind the near field goal post, taking away all middle views of the action, if you weren't catty corner enough where you stood. We moved around enough to make it work to see here and there.    

 

--Yes it was brutally hot, but the BIlls fans got the better end of this bargain, because all of the shade-casting trees outside of the VIP tents, were located at the backs of the Bills fans standing/sitting in the endzone areas, while the Panthers fans baked in the open sun, from what I could see. In truth, I can't give you guys as solid of a rundown of the action on the field today, as I was processing just being at camp and all that that entails--I enjoyed soaking up the experience and talked with a lot of Bills fans around me, so my attention wasn't always where it needed to be, or my view was compromised, but I still thoroughly enjoyed it all. 

 

--The first units I saw in action was the Bills starting D going against Cam Newton on the near field going towards the EZ, so the Bills section was the best one here--by my unofficial count, Newton was 1/3 on these redzone passing drills against our secondary, but that was the only time I saw Cam all day, as I migrated fairly quickly to the far side field where the Bills O was operating. Josh completed about half of the passes I saw him throw, but I counted at least 2 drops, one by Sweeney and one by Smoky, that should've been caught, imho. Josh also ran a few designed run plays that I was glad to see--Dabs may not want to bottle him up in the pocket after all?

 

--The "reception" line greeters for the Bills today were Smoky Brown (he didn't walk the whole fence line, but he did make himself available near the VIP tent fencing area), Josh Allen, House $$ and Reid Ferguson. Coach McD walked the whole line, high-fiving all who stretched their hands out far enough (I gave a weak sauce effort and was thus not rewarded, as I was trying to film on my phone at the same time) and he apologized for not stopping to sign autographs, he didn't have time and couldn't make exceptions. Next Coach Dabs darted here and there like a triggerfish deciding whether or not to dive into the crevasse of the coral reef, and decided to take the high road instead, quite literally--he walked back away from the fan fence as quickly as he'd come, but he did smile and wave a bit like the Queen, so there's that. Allen to his credit, ran the entire gauntlet of the fan fence, and literally signed for every single kid there under the age of 10, but I saw that he wouldn't sign for any adults, no exceptions. I do respect that--he had limited time, and there were a ton of fans there, but he still made the most of it by making sure that each kid there got to interact with him, take selfies, etc. When Josh was right by where I was standing, I blurted out that my daughter was born on the same day as his Leap heard round the world over Barr, and that got me a verbal acknowledgment, but still no dice as to the Allen jersey I was holding out to be signed. Oh well, I guess next time I will have to make sure to bring my kiddos along as Allen autograph insurance!! 

 

Besides getting to share the aforementioned details of my baby's birth story with Josh Allen, lol, the highlight of my day was Brandon Beane. Guys, this GM is the real deal, no other way to say it. First, by this time it was already 30-45 minutes or so after practice had wrapped up, and the man stood there and signed for everyone, young and old, without appearing to be in any kind of a hurry, and was cheerful to one and all. He ended up signing my Allen jersey (it's a double XL and I've lost a few lbs this year, so can't wear it anymore anyway) and also posed for a selfie. I thanked him for organizing the Bills coming down south for these sessions, as it gave those of us living near enough a chance to see the Bills up close too. He responded by being appreciative for all of the fan support there locally and said they were glad it worked out the way it did. He got a laugh when one of the fans yelled out, "Thanks for drafting Ed," to which he replied, "Just thankful he was still there when we got him." I also heard several fans saying thanks for bringing hope back to Buffalo, which seemed to leave an impression on him also. Class act, all around.      

 

A great day for this Bills fan!!!

 

**I'm working on getting my pics and some vids together in a way I can post without violating the size limits...that will follow.    

 

 

 

Followup to the above notes, with a few of the vids and pics I took at the practice. I haven't included any video where it was impossible to ID the player, or where visibility of the play or its completion ended up being obscured for some reason. I also didn't include video I took of random coaches/players just standing/walking around--if you want that too though, LMK.

 

 

A view away from the fields and towards the Panthers' fans viewing section on the hill--definitely ended up being more Bills fans attending. 

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It was around this time I got my verbal acknowledgment from Allen, but no autograph lol, as explained in my notes. 

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This pic proves Allen would look even better in a red helmet!

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Smokey hanging out a bit right after practice.

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Reid Ferguson--super nice guy from what I could see. 
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Beane stuck around the longest of any Bills personality, and was very gracious with all fans who approached him. 

 

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Looking back at where Beane was still signing and taking pics, long after practice had ended and most of the crowd dispersed.

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Here is a short playlist of selected videos I took also:

 

 

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