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Just now, gonzo1105 said:

Thats exactly what their doing. My guess is that he actually has cleared it but they are just saying he’s still in it to avoid the media and questions why he’s not practicing if he’s cleared protocol. 

 

He’ll miraculously clear protocol my guess the week of the 3rd preseason game

 

I hope that's what it is.  It's been 2 weeks now.

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They are being massively careful with Morse.

 

That's all it is.

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On 8/9/2019 at 9:07 PM, Element115 said:

Has any info been released just how Morse received this concussion?  They were not even in pads at the time.

They were in pads, but there was no specific hit. Experienced symptoms later. 

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1 hour ago, njbuff said:

They are being massively careful with Morse.

 

That's all it is.

 

I think he's one concussion away from retirement.

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2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I think he's one concussion away from retirement.

Unfortunately, you are probably correct...one more and he will have to certainly start considering that his future health is more important.

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Just now, JaCrispy said:

Unfortunately, you are probably correct...one more and he will have to certainly start considering that his future health is more important.

 

Definitely.  And I do NOT fault Beane for bringing him in.  Everyone has an injury history of some sort.  It's a crap shoot.  I'm sure if Luke Keuchly was available, multiple teams would show interest.

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You'd think it'd be totally cleared up by now (usually 7-10 days). Hopefully he's not having post-concussion syndrome symptoms.  

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1 hour ago, njbuff said:

They are being massively careful with Morse.

 

That's all it is.

I agree,  that is what is going on, Morse will be playing week one.

 

Go Bills!!!

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2 hours ago, njbuff said:

They are being massively careful with Morse.

 

That's all it is.

 

 

"Massively careful" for a concussion would be IR.

 

When you get concussion symptoms without a big hit that is very, very concerning.

 

It's possible that he was having these exact kind of concussion symptoms all thru the Chiefs playoff run last year but you don't get paid in free agency if teams know you are injured.

 

Fans assume that the medical staff can instantly tell when a player is exhibiting symptoms but I suspect that a lot of the final analysis is "how do you feel?" and that can be lied about to get on the field.

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7 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

"Massively careful" for a concussion would be IR.

 

When you get concussion symptoms without a big hit that is very, very concerning.

 

It's possible that he was having these exact kind of concussion symptoms all thru the Chiefs playoff run last year but you don't get paid in free agency if teams know you are injured.

 

Fans assume that the medical staff can instantly tell when a player is exhibiting symptoms but I suspect that a lot of the final analysis is "how do you feel?" and that can be lied about to get on the field.

This. And -yes, I’m going there- he’s alluded to how thankful he and his family are for this huge contract so he can get the proper care for his brother. If y’all think WE’RE concerned about him, how do think they feel? With all of this, playing in completely meaningless games in August makes zero sense.

He’ll introduce himself to the Jets.

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1 hour ago, Gugny said:

 

I think he's one concussion away from retirement.


I'm just curious...are you basing this on anything in particular, or is it pure conjecture on your part?

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3 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

 

Thats exactly what their doing. My guess is that he actually has cleared it but they are just saying he’s still in it to avoid the media and questions why he’s not practicing if he’s cleared protocol. 

 

He’ll miraculously clear protocol my guess the week of the 3rd preseason game

 

In your hypothetical- That he’s hung up in protocol for nearly a month is a much bigger media story than he’s good and taking some vet time along the way

1 minute ago, Logic said:


I'm just curious...are you basing this on anything in particular, or is it pure conjecture on your part?

 

Its clearly conjecture but given the current situation and info available it’s not wild speculation. Speculative for sure but not crazy out of line with a guy with several concussions and now long term in the protocol again 

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8 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

That he’s hung up in protocol for nearly a month is a much bigger media story than he’s good and taking some vet time along the way

 

eh, we’ll never know, so this too is conjecture. Adding to him not playing in meaningless games is a concern of him battling a highly prized rookie DT who’s looking to make a huge name for himself and laughs when the Head Coach kicks him out of practice for crashing into ‘the Franchise’. Too bad Ducasse sucked even worse at Center. He could have lasted the whole preseason as Oliver Fodder..

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4 minutes ago, Logic said:


I'm just curious...are you basing this on anything in particular, or is it pure conjecture on your part?

 

Pure conjecture.

 

Based on a history of concussions, the last one occurring when he was playing the equivalent of flag football.

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10 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

This. And -yes, I’m going there- he’s alluded to how thankful he and his family are for this huge contract so he can get the proper care for his brother. If y’all think WE’RE concerned about him, how do think they feel? With all of this, playing in completely meaningless games in August makes zero sense.

He’ll introduce himself to the Jets.

 

 

One factor to consider with Morse is that he is not your typical center who can only project to G or C.  

 

The interior positions obviously play a lot of "head down" football where it's hard to avoid sudden head collisions, off-balance jarring hits and neck-snapbacks that cause concussion.   

 

But Morse has a tackle frame and athleticism.   He was a top recruit as an OT and was primarily an OT at Missouri.  

 

If he had refused to play inside during the draft process he would still have likely been gone by round 5, IMO

 

I think this year they will cross their fingers and play him at center regardless but his future as a Bill could be outside.

 

It would be a financial kick in the teeth to pay a swing tackle that kind of dough but he could also be much more than that..........tackle doesn't seem like a need now but that changes quickly..........but they really are pretty much locked in for 3 years with him so they may need pivot him from the pivot.    

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2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

One factor to consider with Morse is that he is not your typical center who can only project to G or C.  

 

The interior positions obviously play a lot of "head down" football where it's hard to avoid sudden head collisions, off-balance jarring hits and neck-snapbacks that cause concussion.   

 

But Morse has a tackle frame and athleticism.   He was a top recruit as an OT and was primarily an OT at Missouri.  

 

If he had refused to play inside during the draft process he would still have likely been gone by round 5, IMO

 

I think this year they will cross their fingers and play him at center regardless but his future as a Bill could be outside.

 

It would be a financial kick in the teeth to pay a swing tackle that kind of dough but he could also be much more than that..........tackle doesn't seem like a need now but that changes quickly..........but they really are pretty much locked in for 3 years with him so they may need pivot him from the pivot.    

 

The out with him comes after next year (5 million).  I sure hope it doesn't come to that.

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23 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

 

Agreed.  Give him as much time to heal as possible.

i don't know the answer to this, but does taking more time off make you less susceptible to future concussions?  Of course you want him 100% when he returns, but regardless, he's just one more hit away from another.

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18 minutes ago, klos63 said:

i don't know the answer to this, but does taking more time off make you less susceptible to future concussions?  Of course you want him 100% when he returns, but regardless, he's just one more hit away from another.

Yeah. It really worries me with him. He's obviously VERY susceptible to them and like someone else has said here, we don't know how much he hid symptoms last season because he wanted to get paid. I'm sure people will accuse me of being over dramatic, but if he goes out and gets a concussion early in the season, I think it could be it for him.

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50 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

 

eh, we’ll never know, so this too is conjecture. Adding to him not playing in meaningless games is a concern of him battling a highly prized rookie DT who’s looking to make a huge name for himself and laughs when the Head Coach kicks him out of practice for crashing into ‘the Franchise’. Too bad Ducasse sucked even worse at Center. He could have lasted the whole preseason as Oliver Fodder..

 

If he is still in protocol, real or top secret fake protocol, through next week I don’t think it’s going out to far on a limb to say that it’s a substantial news event for preseason football. It’s not like resting a guy with a strained muscle or rolled ankle a few extra days. Telling the media he still can’t pass recovery tests after a month is noteworthy.

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39 minutes ago, klos63 said:

i don't know the answer to this, but does taking more time off make you less susceptible to future concussions?  Of course you want him 100% when he returns, but regardless, he's just one more hit away from another.

 

You are correct in that the more concussions you have the more susceptible you are to additional ones. Someone who isn’t fully healed - and has head trauma - that has  has even higher odds of another concussion though.  I guess you do what you can and hope for the best. Or you hang ‘em up.  

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