teef Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah. Odd, isn't it? Very. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 56 minutes ago, HuSeYiN_NYC said: Did it "become" a headline? That's to whoever listens to that bum... The goal was for it to be though... Get it? Why am I even wasting my time wit you? Go troll somewhere else dude... “Get it?” Lol, no. Your posts seem as though they are the product of a random word generator... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 8 hours ago, Heavy Kevi said: https://amp-si-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.si.com/nfl/2019/04/25/buffalo-bills-nfl-draft-picks-selections-grades-list-analysis?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#amp_tf=From %1%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.si.com%2Fnfl%2F2019%2F04%2F25%2Fbuffalo-bills-nfl-draft-picks-selections-grades-list-analysis Gives us B's and an A- for the other picks, but had an interesting take on the Oliver pick: Ed Oliver, DT, Houston Andy Benoit's grade: C "Most likely, the Bills saw this as a value pick. And after signing Star Lotulelei for big money in free agency last year, to pair with 2018 third-rounder Harrison Phillips and gifted (though mercurial) ex-Dolphin Jordan Phillips, they didn’t have a glaring need at defensive tackle. But outside, they badly need an edge rusher, as 2016 first-rounder Shaq Lawson is not that guy and Jerry Hughes could be in his last year with the club. That said, you can make room for a dynamic gap penetrator. Oliver relies on quickness and elusiveness within confined areas, which is a unique style of play. But considering his having had an up-and-down 2018 season and Buffalo not badly needing a defensive tackle, overall this is a high-risk, high-reward pick for a team looking to add talent in multiple places." Did he not realize we had the Phillipses last year too and Star and still were playing Kyle a lot. What part of Kyle’s retirement did he miss? We may still trade for a DE. Let us see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 54 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: “Get it?” Lol, no. Your posts seem as though they are the product of a random word generator... You a clown dude... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Dear ❄️, Andy gave us an A- for the draft. Is he still an idiot? ?. https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/04/27/nfl-draft-2019-team-grades-picks-analysis?utm_campaign=sinow&xid=socialflow_twitter_si&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social On 4/27/2019 at 3:51 PM, teef said: Lol! That’s whats happening here. The martyr defense. You’re the dark night players on other teams didn’t know they needed. A bills fan says something negative about another player!? Biscuit will be there to defend them! Haha, are you trying to bully me? It’s fun to do stuff on the computer that you could never do in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Dear ❄️, Andy gave us an A- for the draft. Is he still an idiot? ?. https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/04/27/nfl-draft-2019-team-grades-picks-analysis?utm_campaign=sinow&xid=socialflow_twitter_si&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social Haha, are you trying to bully me? It’s fun to do stuff on the computer that you could never do in real life. are you serious? i honestly can't tell here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Dear ❄️, Andy gave us an A- for the draft. Is he still an idiot? ?. https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/04/27/nfl-draft-2019-team-grades-picks-analysis?utm_campaign=sinow&xid=socialflow_twitter_si&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social Haha, are you trying to bully me? It’s fun to do stuff on the computer that you could never do in real life. Chill dude Teef was replying to someone hocking a false agenda - Every pick is an "A". Every off-season is won. Not every pick is an A! I think RDs 1 and 2 were pretty solid and A status. The others less. Also, when I hear a guy was rated 4th best at a position you tend to believe its a B grade. The B being for Knox Andy Benoit's grade: A- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 On 4/27/2019 at 5:26 AM, Heavy Kevi said: Yeah he is literally the only guy I have heard who thinks it's a bad pick. Which is why he made the statement. Gets him clicks and gives him a chance to say 'see, I was the only one who said.....' if Oliver doesn't pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, teef said: are you serious? i honestly can't tell here. couldn't be serious. I mean, how does he/she know what one could do in real life anymore then they could know what he/she could do in real life? I have to say it does seem easy for some to push people around on a forum that other wise wouldn't face to face. that said, I did not get the impression that he/she is anything to feel threatened over, not that you were but I know if that were directed to me I would just laugh it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 you Follow me around and just try to come at me. Besides a few posters, I don’t even look at most poster’s names and just try to respond to the post. It’s never personal because I don’t know any of you. You should keep it the same. I don’t have anything against. Sorry, I don’t think every move the Bills make is awesome, 4 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: couldn't be serious. I mean, how does he/she know what one could do in real life anymore then they could know what he/she could do in real life? I have to say it does seem easy for some to push people around on a forum that other wise wouldn't face to face. that said, I did not get the impression that he/she is anything to feel threatened over, not that you were but I know if that were directed to me I would just laugh it off. You’re not smart enough to be passive aggressive. Keep groaning my posts. Have a good day ma’am or sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: you Follow me around and just try to come at me. Besides a few posters, I don’t even look at most poster’s names and just try to respond to the post. It’s never personal because I don’t know any of you. You should keep it the same. I don’t have anything against. Sorry, I don’t think every move the Bills make is awesome, You’re not smart enough to be passive aggressive. Keep groaning my posts. Have a good day ma’am or sir. From my perspective, you come off gruff most of the time. When you act like a jerk you get treated like a jerk. Trust me I know. Teef is a good guy IMO a jerk sometimes but a good guy. DaBillsFanSince1973 is also a good guy who nearly left the board because of the Trolls and constant crappy attitudes. So yeah hes smart enough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Benoit's analysis is dumb. That's why his grade was as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: you Follow me around and just try to come at me. Besides a few posters, I don’t even look at most poster’s names and just try to respond to the post. It’s never personal because I don’t know any of you. You should keep it the same. I don’t have anything against. Sorry, I don’t think every move the Bills make is awesome, You’re not smart enough to be passive aggressive. Keep groaning my posts. Have a good day ma’am or sir. wow. just wow are you sensitive. you really can't take someone calling you out on a message board? sack up buster. i'd absolutely say anything to you face in life that i'd say on here...you know why? because what i'm saying no normal person would call offensive. don't want to be called out? stop posting stupid *****. hell, a bunch of us had a problem with the rochester mayor announcing a draft pick. what was your response? to call us racists. you didn't actually call us racists because you don't have the backbone to actually do so. you're the type of person who would just dance around it. you attack posters if they have a negative opinion of another player on another team, yet throw bills players under the bus constantly. don't worry...we know. you were once a homer. no one cares. you really don't have the fortitude to be on a message board apparently. sack up bud. 17 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: From my perspective, you come off gruff most of the time. When you act like a jerk you get treated like a jerk. Trust me I know. Teef is a good guy IMO a jerk sometimes but a good guy. DaBillsFanSince1973 is also a good guy who nearly left the board because of the Trolls and constant crappy attitudes. So yeah hes smart enough this is what he doesn't understand. actions have reactions. edit: just so everyone know, i will now leave biscuit alone. i'm certainly not here to harass anyone, and i certainly don't want anyone taking the bridge over this. Edited May 1, 2019 by teef 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: you Follow me around and just try to come at me. Besides a few posters, I don’t even look at most poster’s names and just try to respond to the post. It’s never personal because I don’t know any of you. You should keep it the same. I don’t have anything against. Sorry, I don’t think every move the Bills make is awesome, You’re not smart enough to be passive aggressive. Keep groaning my posts. Have a good day ma’am or sir. never personal? yet you pass judgement by questioning my smarts. you have a good day as well ma’am, or sir. Edited May 1, 2019 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 On 4/27/2019 at 8:33 AM, Niagara Dude said: Wow! i hate to see what he thinks of our other picks because Oliver was the best , our last two picks will be off the roster once Sean and Beane are fired. Like is Sean going to keep 7-8 RB'S on this team. Your takes are even dumber than his but you did get a click.? On 4/27/2019 at 3:46 PM, teef said: You don’t have a lot of friends...do you? He used to and then began to speak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, Doc said: Benoit's analysis is dumb. That's why his grade was as well. Agreed. Dinging the Bills for not filling their need at edge pass rusher over their need for a DT who can get pressure up the middle is dumb in light of the fact that Oliver was generally rated as a better prospect than any of the DEs still on the board at 9. Not recognizing that both were big needs is not excusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 This is why I don't support SI. He doesn't deserve to be paid to write crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 On 4/27/2019 at 9:19 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said: Ah! Glad you ask. He gave the Bills a C+ for Josh Allen and the Cardinals an A- for Josh Rosen. To do him some credit, he did correctly call out Josh Allen's mobility as an underlooked factor and correctly call out inconsistent ball placement as a gap in Allen's game. About Rosen he said " the most polished QB in this draft " and "Rosen was an acute field-reader at UCLA and plays a timing-and-rhythm brand of football, which usually translates well to the pros. It’s one reason he’s known for his ability to throw receivers open. He is a great fit for offensive coordinator Mike McCoy" Time will tell. To provide some factual substrate for further discussion, here are the stats of each rookie QB normalized to 16 games: Pretty much the only thing that needs to be said about this mans understanding of football as it relates to recently drafted players... Yikes thats a steaming hot-pile-of-poo-take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 This whole page is a **** show lmao ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: This whole page is a **** show lmao ? ...it's one guy's opinion.....was there TOTAL alignment here behind Oliver in ALL of the posted TBD mocks?.....nope......a multitude of assessments whether yes, no or maybe at 9, trading up, trading down, etc...Jesus..... Edited May 1, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...it's one guy's opinion.....was there TOTAL alignment here behind Oliver in ALL of the posted TBD mocks?.....nope......a multitude of assessments whether yes, no or maybe at 9, trading up, trading down, etc...Jesus..... I’m talking about biscuit beefing with teef and 73 and such Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 I remember when Benoit tweeted that Smith-Schuster's block on Burfict was 'thuggish' and worse than what Gronkowski did to White...he's just not very smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I’m talking about biscuit beefing with teef and 73 and such ..know EXACTLY what you meant....did not want to add fuel to the fire......made a feeble attempt to get thread back on track, but not sure why the hell I bothered....once the "pillow fight in the playpen" starts, forget it.......... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 On 4/27/2019 at 8:41 AM, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....sure hope Andy doesn't quit his day job........... I don’t agree with this particular take, but I regard Benoit as one of the 2 or 3 best football writers in the country. They all have to do these stupid grades to genereate views. Don’t judge him on that. All draft grades one week after the draft are by definition moronic, but people eat it up. That’s why they’re published. 5 hours ago, GoBills808 said: I remember when Benoit tweeted that Smith-Schuster's block on Burfict was 'thuggish' and worse than what Gronkowski did to White...he's just not very smart. No, he’s actually really, really good. Read some of his analytical pieces. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D521646 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I understand his take, and we should expect this from national writers, although Benoit is actually not a bad analyst; sure he, like every other writers, gets things terribly wrong at times, almost buffoonish, in fact, but his premise, reading between the context of his statement is at least palatable. I'm a Bills Mafia member true and blue, love my team, but I'm also, (Or try to be) objective. We did NOT specifically "need" a DT, even one to replace Kyle, however, then one must show consistency in how GM's approach the draft. Is it a false dichotomy? Is it one or the other, draft for need, or draft BPA, all the time, every time? I suspect it's a little of both for most GM's. This years draft lined up perfectly in that, we got a top 3 player at a position of need, at great value. Do we need Oliver? Any Bills fan will tell you that replacing the production of Kyle would be no easy task, and many of us, including myself absolutely KNEW that Oliver sitting there at 9 was going to be the pick. It was a good pick because it was firstly, safe, for need, and excellent value. Benoits opinion on the matter, although understandable, is not taking any of those factors into account. Sure we could have gotten our pick of edge rusher, but then Benoits argument would be the same for that position as well. We have edge rushers, a lot of them, would he say the same out our pick if it had been a DE at 9? Judging by his premise, he'd have top give a grade of C.. Beane made the right pick, and Benoits take is at the margins, in fact I'm not sure anyone else in the media has said we made a mistake? Outlier opinions are just that. It does question Benoits sincerity, if not his overall credibility by not thinking it through. I like Benoit, but as I stated, they all get it terribly wrong some of the time. Tim- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 At 9 I dont think it was debatable who the best player remaining was. They would be leaving alot to chance to assume Harrison and Jordan Phillps could replace K Willaims production from disruptiveness from the 3 technique position. Oliver should be able to step in and make an impact day 1. His speed to power is rare from the position. By all accounts he is a slam dunk at 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 8 hours ago, D521646 said: We did NOT specifically "need" a DT, even one to replace Kyle, “The three-tech was probably the one, losing Kyle Williams (to retirement), that if you were going to pick a hole that we really wanted to come out of there with, we did. We didn’t know if it would fall our way, but we were sure thrilled that Ed Oliver was there at nine.” http://blog.siriusxm.com/buffalo-bills-brandon-beane-ed-oliver-university-of-houston-nfl-draft/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 On 4/27/2019 at 8:33 AM, Niagara Dude said: Wow! i hate to see what he thinks of our other picks because Oliver was the best , our last two picks will be off the roster once Sean and Beane are fired. Like is Sean going to keep 7-8 RB'S on this team. I didn't give you a "meh" because I disagree with your post (although I don't agree with the premise- obviously); I gave it to you because what you're trying requires a certain artistic skill that you just don't seem to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Andy should follow GMFB. They all said this pick was a STEAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 I guess he doesn't realize that the DTs we had on the roster already are primarily NTs. We needed a 3Tech. Jordan Phillips can pick play there but Oliver is a huge upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 This take by Benoit confounds me, because the guy does a ton of film work and seems at times to know what he's talking about. But this analysis in particular really exposes a complete lack of understanding of McD's scheme and how perfect a fit Oliver is in that defense. It also ignores the departure of Kyle and the fact that Horrible Harry really hasn't proven anything yet. Yes, edge rusher is also a concern opposite Hughes, but if you're getting a dynamic, disrupt-the-middle player like Oliver that need is lessened somewhat. We've all got to learn to just take these "analyst" opinions with a huge grain of salt and let the play on the field dictate our opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 On 4/27/2019 at 8:33 AM, hemma said: Sometimes people write odd stuff when they are day drinking. Stop calling me out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Allen Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 So his grades are based on a team's ability to patch it's biggest needs. I prefer Beane's choice to play the long game; let everyone else play Whack-A-Mole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 On 5/1/2019 at 5:03 PM, Buffalo716 said: I’m talking about biscuit beefing with teef and 73 and such Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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