3rdand12 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: But we will certainly have a right to HATE taking him at 74 if he ISN'T a productive player. 3rd round running backs are expected to be relatively productive right out of the gate. I prefer your scenario, but time will tell. I have my doubts about Singletary. Love his backstory. Love his ability to get into the EZ. Very concerned about his size/speed ratio. read that back to yourself my friend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdand12 said: read that back to yourself my friend OK. Replace "right" with "legitimate reason" if we're playing the semantics game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: OK. Replace "right" with "legitimate reason" if we're playing the semantics game. Okay But legitimate gets more scrabble game points 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGee Return TD Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Mid round RBs are a crap shoot - hope they got the right one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 9 hours ago, aristocrat said: thurman still ran a 4.47 40. singletary ran a 4.66. i hope he's a success but speed seems to be pretty key for rbs in the league. again, how many rbs do you know that had a slower 40? He’s in the same ballpark as Alfred Morris and Arian Foster. Obviously different skill sets, but success at that speed isn’t impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 18 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said: He’s in the same ballpark as Alfred Morris and Arian Foster. Obviously different skill sets, but success at that speed isn’t impossible. You know the argument coming right ? Game speed. Knowing when to accelerate and how to turn a corner. Seeing the field break down as he hits the line of scrimmage. Getting small when moving through the big uglies is underrated btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/22/2019 at 1:07 PM, Johnny Hammersticks said: It's amazing to me how folks continue to doubt Beane, and trust the other talking heads WRT where players are drafted. Why people automatically assume that they "reached" for Singletary based on draft rankings created outside of OBD is dumb, IMO. Beane and his crew had their draft board. They felt they got good value where Devin was drafted. Who are we to question/doubt that? I'm not questioning the pick but we are allowed to have questions. So far it seems Beane has put together a good roster but to say we can't have doubts is wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, nucci said: I'm not questioning the pick but we are allowed to have questions. So far it seems Beane has put together a good roster but to say we can't have doubts is wrong Human nature to ask questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/22/2019 at 8:13 AM, Bill from NYC said: Here we go....."really something in the open field." Tell me, how many players are bad in the open field? "Space" was the word that was frequently used here. Spiller was said to be "good in space." In reality, the people who drafted him at #9 were in outer space. And as far as pure game speed, really? The fastest ever? There are dozens who were faster and thousands who were better players. He was not going to be at or near the "top" at anything except the unspeakably horrid waste of a draft pick list but of course, this is jmo. Don’t even bother Bill. The horse is dead. The idiots that still think CJ Spiller was or could have been great should just end it now. They are useless in life. If they are stupid enough to think Spiller was good, they don’t deserve to suck the air our lungs need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Pff apparently loves this kid. Listening to wgr and they have a metric of forced missed tackles as the best way to predict rbs success from college to pros and then in the pros. Devin by their stats is gonna be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, mrags said: Don’t even bother Bill. The horse is dead. The idiots that still think CJ Spiller was or could have been great should just end it now. They are useless in life. If they are stupid enough to think Spiller was good, they don’t deserve to suck the air our lungs need. I wonder if he could have been better if used in a different way I dont know.....I do know that running Spiller inside was no bueno....just could not do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 31 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I wonder if he could have been better if used in a different way I dont know.....I do know that running Spiller inside was no bueno....just could not do it Well. That’s kind of what running backs in the nfl are supposed to excel at. And when they are not good they get cut and don’t have a career. Kind of like.... I don’t know.....Spiller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 52 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Pff apparently loves this kid. Listening to wgr and they have a metric of forced missed tackles as the best way to predict rbs success from college to pros and then in the pros. Devin by their stats is gonna be good Thats the college stat that made Kareem Hunt so good as well ??. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Thats the college stat that made Kareem Hunt so good as well ??. Interesting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 8 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: You know the argument coming right ? Game speed. Knowing when to accelerate and how to turn a corner. Seeing the field break down as he hits the line of scrimmage. Getting small when moving through the big uglies is underrated btw One could debate that, but I’m failing to see the argument... There might not be one at all after we see the kid in pads at SJF. ?♂️. We just don’t know until we see him live at this level of competition. All I know is that he did a damn good job of dodging guys in the backfield against Oklahoma, but didn’t time well in shorts. Heck, Larry Fitzgerald ran a 4.6 iirc. Some dudes are gamers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 12 hours ago, aristocrat said: Pff apparently loves this kid. Listening to wgr and they have a metric of forced missed tackles as the best way to predict rbs success from college to pros and then in the pros. Devin by their stats is gonna be good Makes sense. You aren't out running NFL defenses for a living. May pop a big play every now and then with super speed, especially if you are already in a top offense (like KC last year), but the majority of these guys are pounding away and missed tackles moves the chains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I hope he works on his game as a receiver. He wasn't used much in that capacity in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, njbuff said: I hope he works on his game as a receiver. He wasn't used much in that capacity in college. It’s my understanding that the Bills focused on receiving exclusively when they put him through a pre draft workout down in Florida. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, K-9 said: It’s my understanding that the Bills focused on receiving exclusively when they put him through a pre draft workout down in Florida. And to contradict my own point................... Thurman Thomas wasn't much a receiver coming out of college either. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 19 hours ago, aristocrat said: Pff apparently loves this kid. Listening to wgr and they have a metric of forced missed tackles as the best way to predict rbs success from college to pros and then in the pros. Devin by their stats is gonna be good This is all PFF metrics; 3rd row down is Singletary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 5 hours ago, DCOrange said: This is all PFF metrics; 3rd row down is Singletary I’m happy to Singletary’s high pass blocking grade. I wasn’t expecting to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 8 hours ago, njbuff said: I hope he works on his game as a receiver. He wasn't used much in that capacity in college. 7 hours ago, K-9 said: It’s my understanding that the Bills focused on receiving exclusively when they put him through a pre draft workout down in Florida. Some teams also asked him to work out at WR at the Combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 On 7/22/2019 at 11:14 AM, RoyBatty is alive said: 30 Spots higher? That means they had him going #2 in the second round? A way undersized slow scat back from a tier 2 college? That’s what I was told from a beyond reliable source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 17 hours ago, DCOrange said: This is all PFF metrics; 3rd row down is Singletary 40% drops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: 40% drops? Yeah, he only had 6 catches all year so I believe it works out to 6 catches and 4 drops. I believe he was dead last among the 83 draft-eligible RBs in terms of drops and yards per route run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: 40% drops? Super low sample size. As a Junior he was used way more in the passing game and did well. I think he could have a Tarik Cohen like role and impact on this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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