mannc Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 3 hours ago, KOKBILLS said: Did not read back on all pages to see if anyone actually listened to the pod...But I took the time this afternoon to do exactly that... First part that was interesting...They actually mocked DK to the Giants at #6...Part of that was due to Benoit suggesting WR for pretty much EVERY team from #1 overall on (and I'm not kidding...He really did not know a ton about DK...It was more about his perceived team needs...But good grief...)...I think Gramling just got tired of hearing him suggest WR for every team and finally allowed DK to be mocked to NY at #6... Anyway...When he got to the Bills pick Gramling stopped...Stated very matter of fact the Bills are going to take DK..."That's all...that's all I want to say"..."It's not only about the need"...He cited the Jonathan Jones SI article (Benoit comments that there is a Carolina connection to Jones...Ex Charlotte Observer writer) and says DK is "this reserved, devoutly religious guy, and he very much fits into that culture they have there..." I obviously have no idea...But it certainly sounded like Gramling knew/was told something...I listened to the mock from 1-9 and the Bills are the only team he made that type of statement about...? Let’s just hope he’s available at 9. I’m afraid he won’t be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, mannc said: Let’s just hope he’s available at 9. I’m afraid he won’t be. Well... I've pretty much kept it to myself...1) Because I generally don't like the idea...and...2) Because I don't want to be flamed to death...?...But if they can get away with only giving up a 3rd, or preferably a 4th, don't be surprised if they go up a few spots to get him...Assuming he's really the guy they covet...And I know that is a BIG assumption...But there is at least some smoke out there that a couple teams are so desperate to trade down the cost is dropping... I'm not in favor of this necessarily...Just saying I would not be surprised at all...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, KOKBILLS said: Well... I've pretty much kept it to myself...1) Because I generally don't like the idea...and...2) Because I don't want to be flamed to death...?...But if they can get away with only giving up a 3rd, or preferably a 4th, don't be surprised if they go up a few spots to get him...Assuming he's really the guy they covet...And I know that is a BIG assumption...But there is at least some smoke out there that a couple teams are so desperate to trade down the cost is dropping... I'm not in favor of this necessarily...Just saying I would not be surprised at all...? Now that would really surprise me, but a few of the teams in front of us are WR-needy (especially the Jets), so I’m not at all sure he’ll be there at 9. There just aren’t any other weapons like him this year. Edited April 19, 2019 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) i know i'm delusional, but if i had to bet money on whether or not they picked dk at 9, i would say to my delusional self....self, they got a crapton of linemen, all with some starting experience. they also grabbed enough experienced receivers to fill out a roster. however, they didn't fill the hole left by kyle. therefore, through much delusional contemplation, i would put my money on another position picked at 9. edit: however, i trust these guys and will 100% support whatever decision they make. Edited April 19, 2019 by billsredneck1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Cornette's Commentary said: I'm going to say something for Metcalf that is similar to what I said in the Brian Burns thread: If Metcalf is the pick at 9, he'd better have AT LEAST 1,000 receiving yards and AT LEAST 15 TDs by the end of the season to justify his selection. Look, I get that hyperbole can be useful to make a point at times, but you've gone noodles on this one. At least 15 TDs? That would've lead the entire NFL last year. I don't think DK is a top 10 pick either, but if he is, 1,000 yards and 6-8 TDs as a rookie would certainly justify the selection. I mean, Watkins did that in year 2 and was looking every bit a WR1 before the foot injury. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 hours ago, thebandit27 said: Look, I get that hyperbole can be useful to make a point at times, but you've gone noodles on this one. At least 15 TDs? That would've lead the entire NFL last year. I don't think DK is a top 10 pick either, but if he is, 1,000 yards and 6-8 TDs as a rookie would certainly justify the selection. I mean, Watkins did that in year 2 and was looking every bit a WR1 before the foot injury. 700 yds and 6-8 TDs as a rookie would have him in ROY conversations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 11 hours ago, Cornette's Commentary said: I'm going to say something for Metcalf that is similar to what I said in the Brian Burns thread: If Metcalf is the pick at 9, he'd better have AT LEAST 1,000 receiving yards and AT LEAST 15 TDs by the end of the season to justify his selection. Calvin Johnson didn’t even have those numbers his rookie year. That’s like saying Ed Oliver would have to have 15 sacks to justify his selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2019/4/19/18507430/2019-nfl-mock-draft-buffalo-bills-select-wr-d-k-metcalf-at-no-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 On 4/17/2019 at 8:04 AM, SouthNYfan said: Zero chance huh? That's a pretty obtuse and ignorant statement. Foster, while promising, hasn't proven himself. He has just as much garbage games as good ones. Beasley is a b+ slot guy, great pickup, but not a OMG BEST WR EVER Brown has been inconsistent at best in his career. Zay Jones is wildly inconsistent. Nobody can cover our guys? This is one of the most honer-filled posts I've seen here in a long time. Put down the koolaid bro. Def a homer statement on my part. But I watch a lot of offensive film. I dont always know what routes are supposed to be run, but I do know separation when I see it, and we have four guys that do it very well. Foster had elite numbers from week 10 on, and Zay was only inconsistent his rookie year dude. Last year he made a big step in reliability and had huge plays for us. Josh doesnt need another WR, he needs pass protection, a run game, and a TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, Da webster guy said: Josh doesn't need another WR, he needs pass protection, a run game, and a TE. Well...This may sound weird, but if the Bills do pick DK I really don't think it's going to be about what they need at all, nor do I think it should be... It's going to be about picking a WR they see as the next big thing...A guy who will be a Top 5 NFL WR for many years to come once he learns the Offense, and gets a year or two under his belt...I know that can be debated ad nauseum...But that's why they would do it... There's no way the Bills make this pick (DK) at #9 with 2019 in mind...He's only a redshirt Soph...Those who point to his lack of College production are not completely wrong...He's nowhere near a finished product...If the Bills pick Metcalf it's because they see him as a dominate #1 WR in the future...A player, like Josh and Tremaine last year, who is a top tier natural athlete with elite size/speed... It's massive gamble...Kind of like #17...But if it pays off...Oh my...? Edited April 21, 2019 by KOKBILLS 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, KOKBILLS said: Well...This may sounds weird, but if the Bills do pick DK I really don't think it's going to be about what they need at all, nor do I think it should be... It's going to be about picking a WR they see as the next big thing...A guy who will be a Top 5 NFL WR for many years to come once he learns the Offense, and gets a year or two under his belt...I know that can be debated ad nauseum...But that's why they would do it... There's no way the Bills make this pick (DK) at #9 with 2019 in mind...He's only a redshirt Soph...Those who point to his lack of College production are not completely wrong...He's nowhere near a finished product...If the Bills pick Metcalf it's because they see him as a dominate #1 WR in the future...A player, like Josh and Tremaine last year, who is a top tier natural athlete with elite size/speed... It's massive gamble...Kind of like #17...But if it pays off...Oh my...? He won't make it past Green Bay. Look for a trade with Cincy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) DK Metcalf does absolutely nothing for me...weak route runner, weak hands, serious injury history...he is the opposite of versatile, the opposite of nuanced “Hulk smash!”...i see a faster version of Kelvin Benjamin and when you only run 3 routes and have zero short area separation it’s kind of hard to catch more than 2 passes a game in the NFL...if I were the Bills I would take him off my board completely...I sincerely hope they stay as far away from this guy as possible...of course, I could be wrong- but that’s just how I feel. Edited April 20, 2019 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: DK Metcalf does absolutely nothing for me...weak route runner, weak hands, serious injury history...if I were the Bills I would take him off my board completely...I sincerely hope they stay as far away from this guy as possible...of course, I could be wrong- but that’s just how I feel. Google DK Metcalf scouting report. First thing I see from each person at the draft network: ”Route Running –Shows very good footwork at the line of scrimmage to defeat press coverage and create false steps. Does well to bend back across the face of leveraged defenders on vertical stems. Explosive through breaks and create separation. -Crabbs Routes - Wins routes early with dynamic hand and footwork in his release. Knows how to work his route stem to manipulate the corner, establish leverage and sell his breaks. Hasn't be tasked with running an overly expansive route tree but the traits are present to be an outstanding route-runner and separator in the NFL. Rare acceleration for his size and springs explosively out of his breaks. Understands where zone coverage is soft and adjusts. Alters his tempo effectively. -Marino Route-Running - Let's talk about what is his fault: Metcalf needs to show better attention to detail in his patterns at times, breaking his routes off more exactly, showing a better awareness of the sideline and being more efficient with his footwork. Outside of his control however, is an Ole Miss offense that asked him to predominantly run hitches, curls, comebacks and nine routes, operating only on a vertical plane that made things very simple for defensive backs who had done their tape study. How Metcalf managed his production is a testament to his other-worldly talent in a scheme that didn't make things easy on him. -Ledyard Route Running – Metcalf aligned almost exclusively on the outside of the offensive formation to the left-hand side. Playing out there in the SEC, he faced plenty of press or bump coverages. However, Metcalf had a ton of success with his press coverage releases. With footwork that can be a blur for his size, he would re-set the line of scrimmage and discard the jam with violent hands. Metcalf takes full advantage of his strength and length combination while facing press. With an arsenal of hand swipes and proper anticipation, he dominates the contact window. Extremely physical route runner at the top of his stems when he has to be, clearing space with violence. Consistently worked downhill towards the quarterback when necessary. Metcalf showed acceleration after beating press coverage or on vertical cuts. Mostly operating on the vertical plane, he understands how to threaten side to side before continuing down the field. Makes a conscious effort to stack defensive backs right after his route breaks. Metcalf has technique issues that limit his speed on curl and comeback breaks. He’ll rarely take the least amount of steps necessarily, needing to pause at the top of his route for a moment. Metcalf was rarely asked to run in-breaking routes in the Rebels offense, but there are enough examples on his film to suggest moderate success in that area moving forward.-Kelly 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just a heads up folks...Gramling is coming on One Bills Live at 1 PM... Lets see if they bring this up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 At #9? Is that a joke? If they ever went after a receiver again in the top 10 with multiple question marks, it would have to lead to the firing of the GM within a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I'd be super excited about DK Metcalf and you guys won't move me off it 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: At #9? Is that a joke? If they ever went after a receiver again in the top 10 with multiple question marks, it would have to lead to the firing of the GM within a year. Mike Williams (LAC), Amari Cooper, Corey Davis (to a certain extent), Mike Evans, AJ Green, Julio Jones, Michael Crabtree, Calvin Johnson, Ted Ginn, Braylon Edwards... It's almost as if drafting a wr in the top 10 isn't an automatic curse to said wr... hmm... Edited April 23, 2019 by glazeduck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I've come around on this guy. If he stays healthy he is going to be a stud. Seems like a drama free WR too which is rare, process loves that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 On 4/17/2019 at 6:23 AM, Binghamton Beast said: The Bills will be taking Oliver, if he is on the board, at 9 overall. There should be no doubt in anyones mind about that. God I hope NOT !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 45 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: I'd be super excited about DK Metcalf and you guys won't move me off it Are you super excited about the run defense going up against Le'Veon Bell (twice), Ezekiel Elliott, Phil Lindsay, Kenyan Drake (twice), Wendell Smallwood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 On 4/19/2019 at 11:31 PM, KOKBILLS said: It's massive gamble...Kind of like #17...But if it pays off...Oh my... I think we'll start to see the FO and coaching staff pivot away from "massive gambles." Expectations have been raised and these guys are in "win now" mode with both the fans and probably ownership. The top pick will be an immediate contributor, IMO. Not a 'potential' for a couple of years down the road... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Lurker said: I think we'll start to see the FO and coaching staff pivot away from "massive gambles." Expectations have been raised and these guys are in "win now" mode with both the fans and probably ownership. The top pick will be an immediate contributor, IMO. Not a 'potential' for a couple of years down the road... The reason many are high on Metcalf, me included, he will have an immediate impact and role. He has a long way to go before he is Julio Jones or Calvin Johnson but that is what you are chasing. Nothing else he is a dynamic deep threat to enhance Buffalos vertical passing attack as a rookie. In the Redzone he can create space and high point the ball better than any other wr on the roster. Those 2 things he already does and are important with Allen at Qb. Buffalo needs to get him on a better weight and movement regimen. Lose some mass add some fluidity not alot but a little shift could help. Sharpen his route running and look out. At 9 DK Metcalf would give Buffalo a pretty scary offense with 2 deep threats being able to be on the feild at all times, with Brown, Foster, Metcalf rotating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 On 4/19/2019 at 8:07 PM, Da webster guy said: Def a homer statement on my part. But I watch a lot of offensive film. I dont always know what routes are supposed to be run, but I do know separation when I see it, and we have four guys that do it very well. Foster had elite numbers from week 10 on, and Zay was only inconsistent his rookie year dude. Last year he made a big step in reliability and had huge plays for us. Josh doesnt need another WR, he needs pass protection, a run game, and a TE. Huh? No disrespect here, but I honestly dont understand some of the stuff you just said or what you watched to come to some of these conclusions. Zay sucks at getting separation. In fact, MOST of his production came off broken plays where Josh had to scramble and buy time. Why? Because Zay didnt win enough at the LOS or on his routes. He is also terrible against press coverage and physical corners to go with poor hands and sloppy routes. 3 of his last 4 games were among the worst of his season and career. People look at a stat sheet and think the week 16 Pats game was a "good" game when in reality it was atrocious. He was dominated the whole game physically and couldn't get open. With 1 min left in a 3 score blow out, they left him uncovered for a free 31 yard TD that made his "stat sheet" look productive. But in reality he had 4 catches for a little over 30 yards at that point...he was terrible through weeks in 14, 15, and 16. In fact, his ONLY 2 good games with Josh were both the Miami games against a terrible secondary and one of the weeks Miami decided to not even show up (week 17). 10 times he had under 40 yards receiving last year. Im high on Foster, but ELITE numbers? I mean he only averaged a few catches a game, so just cant figure out where you got to "Elite" numbers. He really came on, I do like him a lot and his upside. I even liked him before he got cut. But, he is far from a proven commodity and his numbers were definitely not elite. I like Brown and Cole signings a lot. But Brown has a bad catch % too as a deep ball specialist and Cole is a short yardage and 3rd down specialist. We do not by any means have a proven impact player on our offense right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Are you super excited about the run defense going up against Le'Veon Bell (twice), Ezekiel Elliott, Phil Lindsay, Kenyan Drake (twice), Wendell Smallwood? Wendell Smallwood?!?!?!?!? @Cornette's Commentary, you do realize there are more ways to replace one defensive lineman than just our first round pick, right? I've seen you make this statement multiple times and it's beyond hyperbolic (and silly). 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Are you super excited about the run defense going up against Le'Veon Bell (twice), Ezekiel Elliott, Phil Lindsay, Kenyan Drake (twice), Wendell Smallwood? Are you super excited about losing a bunch of games by a score of 13-6 because we keep our defense elite but fail to upgrade our offense in a meaningful way and therefore can't score points? Also, have you ever looked up the word "repetitive" in the dictionary? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, glazeduck said: Wendell Smallwood?!?!?!?!? @Cornette's Commentary, you do realize there are more ways to replace one defensive lineman than just our first round pick, right? I've seen you make this statement multiple times and it's beyond hyperbolic (and silly). So, what's your solution? Use a 2nd on Jerry Tillery, who did nothing of significance for Notre Dame last season? Use a 2nd on Jeffrey Simmons, who tore his ACL preparing for the Combine and will likely miss the entire season? Take Khalen Saunders, a DT who has NEVER consistently gone up against legitimate competition, in the 3rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: So, what's your solution? Use a 2nd on Jerry Tillery, who did nothing of significance for Notre Dame last season? Use a 2nd on Jeffrey Simmons, who tore his ACL preparing for the Combine and will likely miss the entire season? Take Khalen Saunders, a DT who has NEVER consistently gone up against legitimate competition, in the 3rd? I am in the camp that thinks taking a defensive lineman in the 1st round is the most sensible approach. With that being said, your condescension, hostility, and belittling toward anyone who DARES disagree with you is getting old. You're a fan on an internet message board. Same as the rest of us. Yet you talk like you're the smartest guy in the room. Your schtick has worn out its welcome. Your repetitive posts have grown stale. Worst of all, you do a disservice to the legendary name of Jim Cornette! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, Cornette's Commentary said: So, what's your solution? Use a 2nd on Jerry Tillery, who did nothing of significance for Notre Dame last season? Use a 2nd on Jeffrey Simmons, who tore his ACL preparing for the Combine and will likely miss the entire season? Take Khalen Saunders, a DT who has NEVER consistently gone up against legitimate competition, in the 3rd? I believe Saunders will be a very good pro, yep. There's also trading for Gerald McCoy. There's also plenty of unsigned FAs: Suh, Jernigan, Liuget, Allen Bailey, Wilkerson, Bennie Logan, the list goes on... Then there's the potential availability of DTs on teams who draft Quinnen, Oliver, Tillery, etc. I also also also like both Phillipses to get more snaps this season, so I'm not exactly terrified about not currently having our 4th DT. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, glazeduck said: I believe Saunders will be a very good pro, yep. There's also trading for Gerald McCoy. There's also plenty of unsigned FAs: Suh, Jernigan, Liuget, Allen Bailey, Wilkerson, Bennie Logan, the list goes on... Then there's the potential availability of DTs on teams who draft Quinnen, Oliver, Tillery, etc. I also also also like both Phillipses to get more snaps this season, so I'm not exactly terrified about not currently having our 4th DT. Well, ignore our pending Wendell Smallwood matchup at your own peril... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, glazeduck said: I believe Saunders will be a very good pro, yep. There's also trading for Gerald McCoy. There's also plenty of unsigned FAs: Suh, Jernigan, Liuget, Allen Bailey, Wilkerson, Bennie Logan, the list goes on... Then there's the potential availability of DTs on teams who draft Quinnen, Oliver, Tillery, etc. I also also also like both Phillipses to get more snaps this season, so I'm not exactly terrified about not currently having our 4th DT. There's also nothing saying that we can't trade up from the second to get Christian Wilkins (meh) or Dexter Lawrence (me likey) as well... 1 minute ago, glazeduck said: There's also nothing saying that we can't trade up from the second to get Christian Wilkins (meh) or Dexter Lawrence (me likey) as well... Hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamkrgr Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I can't wait to see how this all plays out. Ive run so many draft scenario possibilities in my head that I don't even know who I really want at this point. There are good arguments for everything. Swing for the fences? Dk Metcalf. Someone safe? Wilkins. Improve the run while giving JA a safety valve? Hockenson. BPA? Probably an edge defender. Move up for an elite player? Quinnen. Can't wait for the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 hours ago, glazeduck said: Mike Williams (LAC), Amari Cooper, Corey Davis (to a certain extent), Mike Evans, AJ Green, Julio Jones, Michael Crabtree, Calvin Johnson, Ted Ginn, Braylon Edwards... It's almost as if drafting a wr in the top 10 isn't an automatic curse to said wr... hmm... Sooo, you are comparing him to mostly future Hall of Famers huh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, BuffaloBaumer said: Sooo, you are comparing him to mostly future Hall of Famers huh Not at all. Just pointing out that just because we had a bad experience with drafting a WR in the top 10, doesn't automatically make it a death knell for that pick. There's been plenty of successful (and plenty of unsuccessful) WRs picked in the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, glazeduck said: Not at all. Just pointing out that just because we had a bad experience with drafting a WR in the top 10, doesn't automatically make it a death knell for that pick. There's been plenty of successful (and plenty of unsuccessful) WRs picked in the top 10. SAVE US, DK METCALF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Cornette's Commentary said: SAVE US, DK METCALF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Boy, some of you guys are just fantastic at taking things out of context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 On 4/17/2019 at 1:00 AM, Doc Brown said: I'm higher on him than most so I'd be fine the pick. He was on his way to a great season his junior year before getting injured. Giving Josh Allen an athletic freak that's 6'3 225 lbs. who runs a 4.33 yard 40 seems like a good idea. He improved his 3 cone drill and 20 yard shuttle time at his pro day following the combine which everybody was freaking out about. He could be an absolute Julio Jones type stud for Josh Allen. Or he could be David Boston. Let's hope it's the former. I'm thinking more like a jacked Randy Moss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 21 minutes ago, glazeduck said: Not at all. Just pointing out that just because we had a bad experience with drafting a WR in the top 10, doesn't automatically make it a death knell for that pick. There's been plenty of successful (and plenty of unsuccessful) WRs picked in the top 10. I just think that if you are drafting a guy in the top 10 (especially receiver) he should not have as many question marks as Metcalf.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: I just think that if you are drafting a guy in the top 10 (especially receiver) he should not have as many question marks as Metcalf.... It's a fair concern, but as I've said on here a couple times, every pro comment of DK comes with the caveat that his health checks out. To have to acknowledge that in every post would be excruciating, so for the sake of discussion, just set that aside. If his health doesn't check out, then totally agree, he's off the board (or way way lower). Not to mention that if he has injury concerns, so do Marquise Brown and others. After that, I don't really have any major question marks for him, aside from him simply not being the absolute perfect specimen for a WR. The agility stuff doesn't bother me, a semi-truck isn't going to be able to move like a motorcycle, it's just unrealistic to even expect that. I find it interesting that "not being 6'3 with crazy wingspan, huge hands, and otherworldly explosion/athleticism" isn't really a knock for the rest of the WR class, yet somehow less than-ideal agility is somehow the killshot for DK's future -- it all needs to be taken into context with everything else, and I see rare rare rare traits everywhere for him... Edited April 23, 2019 by glazeduck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 24 minutes ago, glazeduck said: Boy, some of you guys are just fantastic at taking things out of context. No, they are waiting for the great TJ Hockenson to come to the rescue. Another somebody who has done nothing in the NFL 3 hours ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Are you super excited about the run defense going up against Le'Veon Bell (twice), Ezekiel Elliott, Phil Lindsay, Kenyan Drake (twice), Wendell Smallwood? Which one player in the draft is gonna fix this Cornette? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, thunderingsquid said: I'm thinking more like a jacked Randy Moss. His ability to extend for overthrown, over shoulder passes is Mossy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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