Lurker Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 30 minutes ago, glazeduck said: Boy, some of you guys are just fantastic at taking things out of context. That's why the Ignore User feature is so wonderful... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) Ohhhhh nooooo blue cheese or ranch Edited April 23, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cornette's Commentary said: So, what's your solution? Use a 2nd on Jerry Tillery, who did nothing of significance for Notre Dame last season? Use a 2nd on Jeffrey Simmons, who tore his ACL preparing for the Combine and will likely miss the entire season? Take Khalen Saunders, a DT who has NEVER consistently gone up against legitimate competition, in the 3rd? Khalen Saunders held his own in the Senior Bowl against legitimate competition. And he's just as athletic as your superhero Ed Oliver. Edited April 23, 2019 by the skycap 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Ohhhhh nooooo blue cheese or ranch I saw that interview and heard the wings comment with my third ear (Joe Madison voice) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Ohhhhh nooooo blue cheese or ranch I always worry when any prospect talks about wings... That is what Marcell Dareus has done to my psyche...I now expect Metcalf to show up for Camp at a robust 345...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Ohhhhh nooooo blue cheese or ranch Yolo, was he sending a subliminal message to Beane and the Bills???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, glazeduck said: Not at all. Just pointing out that just because we had a bad experience with drafting a WR in the top 10, doesn't automatically make it a death knell for that pick. There's been plenty of successful (and plenty of unsuccessful) WRs picked in the top 10. The bad part was the trade - he wasn't like a crazy bust. He currently carries the highest cap hit on one of the best teams in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 David Boston 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: David Boston 2.0 You could say the same thing about sooooo many of these top prospects at their positions..... He is not my first choice....but if Oliver and Williams are gone? Even then Hock would be my choice....well what if Hock is also gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Slacks Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, thunderingsquid said: I'm thinking more like a jacked Randy Moss. Except Randy Moss has amazing hands and healthy college production to back it. DK looks great and may end up being great. However he hasn’t ever put up great numbers. Wasn’t even the #1 WR on his team. Film vs Greedy from LSU shows he struggles. He outweighs Greedy by about 40 lbs too. In years past most agreed on the top tier of WR’s. This year it’s a crapshoot. With the top talent in this draft I would be shocked if we took DK. There’s just way too much better talent out there. Talent that’s showed they can produce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I am all about OL/DL at 9, but if they decide to move away from that strategy, I'd take Hock over Metcalf without any hesitation. Just say NO to Metcalf at 9. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 53 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: David Boston 2.0 Terrell Owens 2.0. See how easy easy that was? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Cornette's Commentary said: SAVE US, DK METCALF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whose gonna save us from your posts though? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, mannc said: Terrell Owens 2.0. See how easy easy that was? TO was a 3rd round pick, which is what DK should be. So very good comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, ndirish1978 said: David Boston 2.0 A better comparison - if you want to stick with osu WRs - is Tedd Ginn Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 36 minutes ago, Fred Slacks said: Except Randy Moss has amazing hands and healthy college production to back it. DK looks great and may end up being great. However he hasn’t ever put up great numbers. Wasn’t even the #1 WR on his team. Film vs Greedy from LSU shows he struggles. He outweighs Greedy by about 40 lbs too. In years past most agreed on the top tier of WR’s. This year it’s a crapshoot. With the top talent in this draft I would be shocked if we took DK. There’s just way too much better talent out there. Talent that’s showed they can produce. How many of you are going to keep pedaling this same farce? He was having a great season before his neck injury. Im fine if people want to go another direction or disagree on DK...but at least get your facts straight and quit pedaling false narratives. In his first 6 games (before he got hurt in his 7th game...which he already had 1 catch for 49 yards in before getting hurt) he had 529 yards, averaging a massive 21 yards per reception and had 5 TDs. During the same span, AJ brown had only 50 more yards, one less TD and averaged only 13 yards per catch. So all this stuff that he "wasn't even the best WR on his team" is just silly. DK was the big play guy while AJ was the possession guy. They played different roles and both were major parts of the offense. And he is going to almost certainly be drafted BEFORE AJ Brown for a reason. I would also like to add: He did NOT appear out of nowhere at the combine as some unknown guy that became a workout warrior. If anyone was paying attention during the CFB season, they would know that DK was widely considered to likely be the first WR taken in this draft before the injury. Myself and plenty of people on here kept saying he is the one WR worthy of top 10 selection and that was BEFORE the combine. What he did at the combine was just prove what most people had already stated. Now, none of that means he will be a huge success or a bust. But this narrative that he wasn't performing at a high level is a total farce. His season got cut short by a neck injury. I dont know if we will pick him or not, but there is PLENTY to be excited about if we do. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, LEBills said: TO was a 3rd round pick, which is what DK should be. So very good comparison. Well, in retrospect, TO should have been a top 5 pick. So it is a very good comp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, LEBills said: TO was a 3rd round pick, which is what DK should be. So very good comparison. Werid. Every GM, NFL Scout, professional analyst in the world seems to disagree with you as not one person has him going later than the first round and he could go top 10. Pshhhh, but what do they know though right... ? Edited April 24, 2019 by Alphadawg7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: How many of you are going to keep pedaling this same farce? He was having a great season before his neck injury. Im fine if people want to go another direction or disagree on DK...but at least get your facts straight and quit pedaling false narratives. In his first 6 games (before he got hurt in his 7th game...which he already had 1 catch for 49 yards in before getting hurt) he had 529 yards, averaging a massive 21 yards per reception and had 5 TDs. During the same span, AJ brown had only 50 more yards, one less TD and averaged only 13 yards per catch. So all this stuff that he "wasn't even the best WR on his team" is just silly. DK was the big play guy while AJ was the possession guy. They played different roles and both were major parts of the offense. And he is going to almost certainly be drafted BEFORE AJ Brown for a reason. I would also like to add: He did NOT appear out of nowhere at the combine as some unknown guy that became a workout warrior. If anyone was paying attention during the CFB season, they would know that DK was widely considered to likely be the first WR taken in this draft before the injury. Myself and plenty of people on here kept saying he is the one WR worthy of top 10 selection and that was BEFORE the combine. What he did at the combine was just prove what most people had already stated. Now, none of that means he will be a huge success or a bust. But this narrative that he wasn't performing at a high level is a total farce. His season got cut short by a neck injury. I dont know if we will pick him or not, but there is PLENTY to be excited about if we do. You are starting to convince me... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: You are starting to convince me... Well hopefully its DK himself convincing you as I am just putting out the accurate info on him. Now that you are coming around...take into consideration this guy is a very high character guy. A big time WR prospect without the Diva personality who works hard and cares a lot about the game. Now with all that fresh in your mind, go watch this: Then go read and watch this and ask yourself how Gilmore is gonna like covering and tackling this dude when Josh is firing bullets down field to this beast!!!! http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001020521/article/ole-miss-dk-metcalf-dominates-at-2019-nfl-scouting-combine GO BILLS!!!!!!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: You are starting to convince me... I’ve started to *really* like the player. Part of me will be a little disappointed if he’s not a part of our team, I just love the fit. I just can’t determine his value at 9. Seems too high. But I’m no scout. Edited April 23, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 What kind of passing attack will Buffalo utilize? What are the QBs strengths? The Bill's were most effective the last part of the year using a vertical passing attack. With the addition of Brown and invest in the Oline I am assuming that will continue to be a large element. Allen strength is attacking the outer third of the feild. He also excels at the intermediate to deep throws. Of all the Wrs available DK Metcalf fits both perfectly as a player day 1. I think the fit is too good to pass up. Add in his work ethic, NFL bloodlines, I think he is a slam dunk. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 52 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: How many of you are going to keep pedaling this same farce? He was having a great season before his neck injury. Im fine if people want to go another direction or disagree on DK...but at least get your facts straight and quit pedaling false narratives. In his first 6 games (before he got hurt in his 7th game...which he already had 1 catch for 49 yards in before getting hurt) he had 529 yards, averaging a massive 21 yards per reception and had 5 TDs. During the same span, AJ brown had only 50 more yards, one less TD and averaged only 13 yards per catch. So all this stuff that he "wasn't even the best WR on his team" is just silly. DK was the big play guy while AJ was the possession guy. They played different roles and both were major parts of the offense. And he is going to almost certainly be drafted BEFORE AJ Brown for a reason. I would also like to add: He did NOT appear out of nowhere at the combine as some unknown guy that became a workout warrior. If anyone was paying attention during the CFB season, they would know that DK was widely considered to likely be the first WR taken in this draft before the injury. Myself and plenty of people on here kept saying he is the one WR worthy of top 10 selection and that was BEFORE the combine. What he did at the combine was just prove what most people had already stated. Now, none of that means he will be a huge success or a bust. But this narrative that he wasn't performing at a high level is a total farce. His season got cut short by a neck injury. I dont know if we will pick him or not, but there is PLENTY to be excited about if we do. Perfectly said! You know he's been my #1 guy for the Bills for a while now...And the truth is had it not been for that injury and a slow cone drill there is no way in hell he would get close to #9 overall... Those things may very well prove to be a blessing for the Bills...We'll see...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said: Perfectly said! You know he's been my #1 guy for the Bills for a while now...And the truth is had it not been for that injury and a slow cone drill there is no way in hell he would get close to #9 overall... Those things may very well prove to be a blessing for the Bills...We'll see...? I like the D at the top of the draft, but Bosa, Allen, Q. Williams, Oliver, and White could easily all be gone before we pick. If we go offense at #9, I can understand Jonah Williams or Hock. They are safer picks, but I would take the chance at the super high ceiling with DK. Edited April 23, 2019 by Dr. Who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I like the D at the top of the draft, but Bosa, Allen, Q. Williams, Oliver, and White could easily all be gone before we pick. If we go offense at #9, I can understand Jonah Williams or Hock. They are safer picks, but I would take the chance at the super high ceiling with DK. The only person I wouldn't mind the Bills taking before Metcalf is Quinnen Williams. I'm all about getting Josh Allen the weapons to accentuate his talents, but Quinnen is one helluva player!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 hours ago, dneveu said: The bad part was the trade - he wasn't like a crazy bust. He currently carries the highest cap hit on one of the best teams in the league. He wasn’t a bust at all. He was a really good player. Didn’t work out with the Bills but there is some kind of revisionist history that he was some kind of terrible pick. He wasn’t. It was the circumstances around the trade, Odell being there, etc that fuel the poor memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Well hopefully its DK himself convincing you as I am just putting out the accurate info on him. Now that you are coming around...take into consideration this guy is a very high character guy. A big time WR prospect without the Diva personality who works hard and cares a lot about the game. Now with all that fresh in your mind, go watch this: Then go read and watch this and ask yourself how Gilmore is gonna like covering and tackling this dude when Josh is firing bullets down field to this beast!!!! http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001020521/article/ole-miss-dk-metcalf-dominates-at-2019-nfl-scouting-combine GO BILLS!!!!!!! He'll be throwing 40 to 50 bullets to this beast, when the front four struggle to stop the run and rush the passer, and they're always having to play from behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Ohhhhh nooooo blue cheese or ranch welp, scratch his name off the draft board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I dont like his game tape, but the more I hear about him personality wise and work wise the more I think he is in play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: He'll be throwing 40 to 50 bullets to this beast, when the front four struggle to stop the run and rush the passer, and they're always having to play from behind. Your schtick is bad and you should feel bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, JM57 said: Your schtick is bad and you should feel bad. Chris Isaak = JM57 Woman in the video = TJ Hockenson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I dont like his game tape, but the more I hear about him personality wise and work wise the more I think he is in play. I just learned about his background and personality and everything and.... gonna be tough for the Bills to turn that down. Not often you find that type of team-oriented WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Slacks Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: How many of you are going to keep pedaling this same farce? He was having a great season before his neck injury. Im fine if people want to go another direction or disagree on DK...but at least get your facts straight and quit pedaling false narratives. In his first 6 games (before he got hurt in his 7th game...which he already had 1 catch for 49 yards in before getting hurt) he had 529 yards, averaging a massive 21 yards per reception and had 5 TDs. During the same span, AJ brown had only 50 more yards, one less TD and averaged only 13 yards per catch. So all this stuff that he "wasn't even the best WR on his team" is just silly. DK was the big play guy while AJ was the possession guy. They played different roles and both were major parts of the offense. And he is going to almost certainly be drafted BEFORE AJ Brown for a reason. I would also like to add: He did NOT appear out of nowhere at the combine as some unknown guy that became a workout warrior. If anyone was paying attention during the CFB season, they would know that DK was widely considered to likely be the first WR taken in this draft before the injury. Myself and plenty of people on here kept saying he is the one WR worthy of top 10 selection and that was BEFORE the combine. What he did at the combine was just prove what most people had already stated. Now, none of that means he will be a huge success or a bust. But this narrative that he wasn't performing at a high level is a total farce. His season got cut short by a neck injury. I dont know if we will pick him or not, but there is PLENTY to be excited about if we do. Fair points. But to compare him to Moss is ridiculous. Moss coming out had been a dominant college player. DK May have show flashed but hardly had dominated games. Also the biggest knock I have on DK isn’t any of those things. It’s his questionable hands. Which to me if you’re taking someone in the top ten at WR then their hands better be unbelievable. Sure they may develop. But did Ted Ginns hands ever really get better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 31 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: He'll be throwing 40 to 50 bullets to this beast, when the front four struggle to stop the run and rush the passer, and they're always having to play from behind. You're like a skipping CD that says the same thing over and over again...if the CD was playing backwards. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mat68 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, Fred Slacks said: Fair points. But to compare him to Moss is ridiculous. Moss coming out had been a dominant college player. DK May have show flashed but hardly had dominated games. Also the biggest knock I have on DK isn’t any of those things. It’s his questionable hands. Which to me if you’re taking someone in the top ten at WR then their hands better be unbelievable. Sure they may develop. But did Ted Ginns hands ever really get better? The comp is simple. Moss is really the only wr that height who tracks the deep ball like a Deshaun Jackson size guy. Late speed and acceleration. Metcalf shows that same rare trait. Moss top 3 all time and that's crazy to say the two names beside each other. But Metcalfs athletic comp and playing style is that. In terms of Ginn? He made his money as a return man and gadget player. Not a guy who consistently won outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, Fred Slacks said: Fair points. But to compare him to Moss is ridiculous. Moss coming out had been a dominant college player. DK May have show flashed but hardly had dominated games. Also the biggest knock I have on DK isn’t any of those things. It’s his questionable hands. Which to me if you’re taking someone in the top ten at WR then their hands better be unbelievable. Sure they may develop. But did Ted Ginns hands ever really get better? I didnt compare him to Moss, nor would I, so I agree with you on that...must have been another poster. Randy Moss was a guy I kept saying was the absolute best player in that draft. I was very big on Moss and thought he was the best WR prospect I had ever seen. He is also top 3 all time in the NFL and could have a case made for best ever. I don't think his hands are as concerning as some think and that it was more to do with poor QB play and trying to make a move upfield too quick before the ball was secure. He makes a lot of tough catches and stretched out finger tip catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) Metcalf is on Hey Rookie Welcome to the NFL tonight on nfln Edited April 24, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Slacks Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I didnt compare him to Moss, nor would I, so I agree with you on that...must have been another poster. Randy Moss was a guy I kept saying was the absolute best player in that draft. I was very big on Moss and thought he was the best WR prospect I had ever seen. He is also top 3 all time in the NFL and could have a case made for best ever. I don't think his hands are as concerning as some think and that it was more to do with poor QB play and trying to make a move upfield too quick before the ball was secure. He makes a lot of tough catches and stretched out finger tip catches. I won’t lie. The idea of a dominating WR on our team is very appealing. Is it DK though? I just am not sure. Why do do you feel DK is better than Hakeem Butler? Wasn’t Butler just as imposing as a WR? I feel like Butler is the least talked about WR stud in this class. Seems like N’Keal Harry gets more hype than Butler. But Harry struggles with separation which will only make it harder in the NFL I feel. But what part of DK’s game do you believe separates him from Butler. You don’t have to convince me how he might be better than Harry. I’m already sold on him over Harry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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