njbuff Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 The Bills are signing FA's at a record pace for this franchise. Who would be the target trading back into the bottom of the first round? Plus these signings mean they really can't keep all 10 picks. What do you think? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Why would we trade back? Wouldn't these signings more likely suggest a trade up? 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 Just now, The Bills Blog said: Why would we trade back? Wouldn't these signings more likely suggest a trade up? I should be more specific. I meant that they keep 9 and trade up back into the first round. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, The Bills Blog said: Why would we trade back? Wouldn't these signings more likely suggest a trade up? Trading back INTO the first round I believe he means 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I think they move around the board a lot. 10 picks are not making this team. I would love a trade up to get Bosa, as long as I don't have to give up 2020 picks. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, njbuff said: The Bills are signing FA's at a record pace for this franchise. Who would be the target trading back into the bottom of the first round? Plus these signings mean they really can't keep all 10 picks. What do you think? I don't get it? We can''t keep all 10 picks because of all these signings so we're trading back for more picks? Disregard my post - I saw the clarification too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, White Linen said: I don't get it? We can''t keep all 10 picks because of all these signings so we're trading back for more picks? Read above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I could see something like the Bills take BPA at 9 no matter what position it is, and then try to trade up to like 27-31 to grab another need position while only sacrificing a pick or two. If they move up any higher then that range its gonna start to cost a lot more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, njbuff said: Read above. I corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) It also allows them the flexibility to trade away this year's later round picks to stockpile draft capital for next year if the opportunity arises and they in a situation where they're not finding value where they're picking in this year's draft. Edited March 22, 2019 by transient 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I know everyone thinks we're going defense defense defense, because of the attention to the offense in free agency. I think we'll target offensive skill players in the draft. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, njbuff said: I should be more specific. I meant that they keep 9 and trade up back into the first round. Yes, I think it does. (1) they will take BPA at 9, which is going to be a defensive player, hence the offensive binge during FA; (2) they will not need to draft 10 players for depth, some of the FA signings are great depth. They will want to hit on 2-4 impact players, and they can get it from 9, later 1st round, and 2nd or 3rd. I can also see them flat out trading down if the defensive player they want is not there, then using the picks to have multiple late first/high 2nd round picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I could see something like the Bills take BPA at 9 no matter what position it is, and then try to trade up to like 27-31 to grab another need position while only sacrificing a pick or two. If they move up any higher then that range its gonna start to cost a lot more. That's what I'm thinking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think they move around the board a lot. 10 picks are not making this team. I would love a trade up to get Bosa, as long as I don't have to give up 2020 picks. If we're doing that, do it for Quinnen Williams. The kid is a monster, and just getting started 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Yes, I think it does. (1) they will take BPA at 9, which is going to be a defensive player, hence the offensive binge during FA; (2) they will not need to draft 10 players for depth, some of the FA signings are great depth. They will want to hit on 2-4 impact players, and they can get it from 9, later 1st round, and 2nd or 3rd. So Oliver and Hockenson? -hmm... I've heard worse. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 ...somebody posted a McBeane quote.....to paraphrase, "we assign a value to a player and that's it".....so if he values someone at 9 or higher, he moves up....if not he moves down to grab an extra 2nd.....perhaps has players graded as 1A, !B or 1C without glaring differences between the "1's".....so if 1A is gone, he takes 1B......same for group designated as 2A, 2B, 2C.......probably dead wrong, but this guy impresses me as highly organized, well planned, methodical and deliberate with a bunch of "what if scenarios" laid out....hell, wouldn't surprise me one bit if her's already sketching out 2020, potential UFA's, possible draft positioning, etc........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) Am I the only one around here that doesn't care if the Bills trade up or down!!!! MARK IT ZERO Edited March 22, 2019 by HOUSE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I can see them trading up from 9, or back into the Ist, but they won't be trading down from the top of the draft IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 ...good thread...dichotomy of respected opinions make this place work......."in McBeane we trust"........... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 31 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think they move around the board a lot. 10 picks are not making this team. I would love a trade up to get Bosa, as long as I don't have to give up 2020 picks. 2020 picks might be less valuable since we are playoff bound and having a game 18 this year ! Go Bills. I would rather trade up and get two #1s. some one amazing is going to drop if not two players who could start and be impacts players in short order. do not feel they should move up the boards the way FA has been going. package some of the late round picks and move up for real players and high quality projects. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: If we're doing that, do it for Quinnen Williams. The kid is a monster, and just getting started Yeah I'm good with that too. I'm all ready to trade up now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Yes they need more impact players in the draft rather than picks. I think that has been the plan from the get go. I believe this draft is really deep in the first 2 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...somebody posted a McBeane quote.....to paraphrase, "we assign a value to a player and that's it".....so if he values someone at 9 or higher, he moves up....if not he moves down to grab an extra 2nd.....perhaps has players graded as 1A, !B or 1C without glaring differences between the "1's".....so if 1A is gone, he takes 1B......same for group designated as 2A, 2B, 2C.......probably dead wrong, but this guy impresses me as highly organized, well planned, methodical and deliberate with a bunch of "what if scenarios" laid out....hell, wouldn't surprise me one bit if her's already sketching out 2020, potential UFA's, possible draft positioning, etc........... absolutely getting fun around here ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I only care about getting quality players. I don’t really give a flip about how many picks overall they have to do it in. Keeping all 10 picks will make it very hard for all ten to make the roster. So my guess is they package some to move up in the mid-rounds. Only a guess. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...good thread...dichotomy of respected opinions make this place work......."in McBeane we trust"........... wtH did you just call me ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Yes. And if there's someone worth trading back into the 1st for, I say go for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, JoPar_v2 said: I only care about getting quality players. I don’t really give a flip about how many picks overall they have to do it in. Keeping all 10 picks will make it very hard for all ten to make the roster. So my guess is they package some to move up in the mid-rounds. Only a guess. my thinking. the sweet spot is in the second and early third , and late first. easier to work deals considering the points system ,and high quality players available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: wtH did you just call me ? ....TBD football GOD.....just genuflected to you on my screen...........go RED RAIDERS!...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....TBD football GOD.....just genuflected to you on my screen...........go RED RAIDERS!...... Our type of senility runs parallel to each other is all. But I do enjoy the chats within the threads we seem to have. What if i told you I was a Bombers fan back in the day? ? : ) Love the Underdog Go Bills. thanks OldTime ! Fun to be a Bills fans these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Is it crazy to think that Josh Jacobs RB Alabama may be the target.. possibly in a trade down? They are drafting a RB somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, PIZ said: Is it crazy to think that Josh Jacobs RB Alabama may be the target.. possibly in a trade down? They are drafting a RB somewhere. not after we pick up CJ Anderson we aren't !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 No. Nothing points to anything. A team CAN’T trade down without a partner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 It makes sense to try and trade back into the later part of the 1st if you are really high on a player, because you get the 5th year option if things pan out. I could see Beane following a similar train of thought, especially this draft with an abundance of picks and coming off a very active FA period. The draft will be about quality > quantity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Our type of senility runs parallel to each other is all. But I do enjoy the chats within the threads we seem to have. What if i told you I was a Bombers fan back in the day? ? : ) Love the Underdog Go Bills. thanks OldTime ! Fun to be a Bills fans these days. ...ER Bombers?....playing for "The Jug"?...LMAO........my current friendships/affiliations in ER date back to the mid 70's...thank God for no email servers in THOSE days.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: not after we pick up CJ Anderson we aren't !! Are we looking at CJ Anderson too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Is it, 2nd round players are contracted for 4 years while 3rd round and beyond it's for 3 years? I wouldn't be surprised for Beane to trade back into the 2nd round if there is a player he likes, kind of like what they did for Zay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, njbuff said: The Bills are signing FA's at a record pace for this franchise. Who would be the target trading back into the bottom of the first round? Plus these signings mean they really can't keep all 10 picks. What do you think? I think that some of the lower FA’s on 1 year deals aren’t going to make the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I predict the Bills will pick twice in the first round.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Trade up for Bosa if he doesn't go 1st overall and trade back up for Hockenson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Just now, Sherlock Holmes said: Trade up for Bosa if he doesn't go 1st overall and trade back up for Hockenson They will be hard-pressed to get Bosa, much less both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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