Turk71 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 6 hours ago, WMDman said: meh im all about getting younger How's that going? If you figure it out please share 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 9 hours ago, bilzfancy said: I'd rather go with the younger, and probably cheaper Anthony Barr Anthony Barr is going to get a huge payday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 HOT TICKET! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Turk71 said: How's that going? If you figure it out please share Position switch I guess, but you can get a lot of milage over this kind of guy.. a Dwight Freeney, DeMarcus Ware, Jared Allen. Do we want virtually everybody on the team to have the same age?? That's horrible cap strategy. Do we believe we are going to suck for the 5+ years Houston is productive? Good god I hear constant begging for youth, how friggin long do we expect Josh Allen and friends to hit their window of opportunity on a good team? A little bit of early success is just what the doctor orders for a young player and building a team filled with tons of unproven talent makes that very unlikely. Then ideally Josh gets paid and we ship out the oldies and replace with the new. Because that's how you squeeze out the best roster with your cap. Rivers, Big Ben, Tom Brady, Steve Young in SF (Kelly when he couldn't stay warm in Houston after USFL) found themselves on stacked teams from the get go and were all but game managers enjoying early playoff or SB success. I love vets. Let's get a balanced roster between the old and the new... Like good teams do. Edited March 5, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 11 hours ago, fansince88 said: If every player that this board thinks is going to the Pats, went to the Pats, they would have 200 players on their roster. they don't? shocked, i'm telling you, shocked! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 7 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: The people saying "just sign him" and "git er done" will be the same people saying "Fire Beane" come half time Week 5.. Sounds like we should fire ourselves! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26136728/chiefs-move-ford-houston-sources-say Houston has also been informed that the Chiefs will try to trade him, a source told ESPN, and if no deal is reached he will be released. Houston carries a salary-cap number of $21.1 million for next season; trading or releasing him would save the Chiefs $14 million against the salary cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 13 hours ago, CommonCents said: Josh Allen took Barr’s manhood that would be awkward. Tom Brady took Urlacher's. I think Barr expected Allen to slide and when he didn't Allen just jumped over him. Barr is a very good player that I wouldn't mind the Bills signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 11 hours ago, hmsmystic said: He's a 3-4 OLB over 30 coming off a huge deal. Not a scheme fit and likely won't be a bargain He’s not over 30, he just turned 30 in December. He’s a very good player who could play DE in this scheme. That said, his positional value is worth more in a 3-4 so I agree he likely ends up elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 13 hours ago, Foxx said: they don't? shocked, i'm telling you, shocked! Or.....do they? Hmmmm!! Do tell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 He’s taking less to go to a contender or signing one last big deal. So if we want him, it’s going to be for big bucks. Really good player but not sure at his age, it’s the best investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 22 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: If we were a pass rusher away from a deep playoff run maybe.. We're a pass rusher away from a truly dominant defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalophil1948 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Getting younger is great. We have 10kids joining up soon. Maybe 6 will stick. How many stuck last year( I'm to lazy to do rhe research ). But there has to be balance between youth and veteran experience and leadership. How would we be without Hughes, Lonzo, Shady. We'll find out soon enough as the younger guys step up and take there roles. Its just an endless cycle which needs to be balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Chiefs players were talking on the radio about going after L Bell. They've lost their minds. Said screw it.. let's see what happens with an all offense no defense team. That'd be fun to see but a major cap hit to essentially marginally change your starting year roster from Kareem Hunt to L Bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: Chiefs players were talking on the radio about going after L Bell. They've lost their minds. Said screw it.. let's see what happens with an all offense no defense team. That'd be fun to see but a major cap hit to essentially marginally change your starting year roster from Kareem Hunt to L Bell. At the same point, they are probably going to draft all defense. Imo, much easier for defensive players to make an impact compared to offensive ones. I won’t be shocked if they have an improved defense this year (not saying much because they were terrible but still). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Jokeman Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 On 3/4/2019 at 5:37 PM, WMDman said: meh im all about getting younger He's younger than LorAx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 On 3/4/2019 at 2:33 PM, NewEra said: More money for Morse ? Sign him. He’s a beast. Tyreke Hill. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 28 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: He's younger than LorAx. Lorax is an anomaly given he only played specials most of his career. Justin Houston is legit, but has been grinding his entire career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 45 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: He's younger than LorAx. By a lot. He just turned 30 5 weeks ago. What is the obsession with having all super young players around here? How about focusing on the good players? 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 On 3/5/2019 at 7:37 PM, Buffalophil1948 said: Getting younger is great. We have 10kids joining up soon. Maybe 6 will stick. How many stuck last year( I'm to lazy to do rhe research ). But there has to be balance between youth and veteran experience and leadership. How would we be without Hughes, Lonzo, Shady. We'll find out soon enough as the younger guys step up and take there roles. Its just an endless cycle which needs to be balanced. Bills had 6 picks in 2017. Tre White, Zay Jones, Dion Dawkins, Matt Milano, Nate Peterman (gone), and Tanner Vallejo (gone). Bills had 8 picks in 2018. Josh Allen, Tremaine Edmunds, Harrison Phillips, Taron Johnson, Siran Neal, Wyatt Teller, Ray Ray McCloud, and Proehl (gone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I definitely agree it’s time to add some vets to the young core, not sure how Houston fits here though. His pass rushing skills are still above average. If they can see him as a fit and be able to maximize his rushing the passer and not expect him to cover much I would be happy to have him on the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: By a lot. He just turned 30 5 weeks ago. What is the obsession with having all super young players around here? How about focusing on the good players? We have this odd situation on this board where a lot of people think we have all the right cornerstones but aren’t supposed to win for like 5 years. as far as I’m concerned, even if josh works out (especially if he does really) the next 3 years are the best window we will have for quite some time. Let’s go chase a Super Bowl ala LA, KC, Chicago or go back to legion of boom Seattle, the loaded niners teams, etc... THIS is our spot to push chips on the table and fans seem terrified by the idea while simultaneously thinking leadership deserves a long leash. It’s weird. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 29 minutes ago, NoSaint said: We have this odd situation on this board where a lot of people think we have all the right cornerstones but aren’t supposed to win for like 5 years. as far as I’m concerned, even if josh works out (especially if he does really) the next 3 years are the best window we will have for quite some time. Let’s go chase a Super Bowl ala LA, KC, Chicago or go back to legion of boom Seattle, the loaded niners teams, etc... THIS is our spot to push chips on the table and fans seem terrified by the idea while simultaneously thinking leadership deserves a long leash. It’s weird. Exactly. In terms of acquiring pricey talent, this IS our window. They absolutely cannot afford to whiff this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Some info for you folks to ponder as FA approaches Justin Houston carried a 21 Million Dollar cap hit if he stayed with KC. Cutting him saved KC 14 million in Cap space with a cap hit of 7 million. Piror to his release today, KC only had 9 million in CAP SPACE. After his release (and the signing of Carlos Hyde) KC has about 22 Million in Space as of this post (there will probably be some more cap saving moves to come) There had been talk KC would want to renegotiate Houstons deal....and I think in most years, Houston would have been motivated to do so instead of being released. However, this FA crop of EDGE rushers is WEAK. Houston and his agent aren't dumb. They know this and they know that there are about 6 or 7 teams with a staggering payload of cap space that will line up to sign him. The Jets and Colts are going to be right at the top of the list. Watch the Falcons as well. houston is from the Atlanta area. I'd like to have Houston back..he's a good run defender AND pass rusher...very solid..but he's been too injured...KC probalby helped ruin his health by having him play on a bum knee they knew was bad a few years ago.....because he was getting paid after that 22 sack season and they needed him out there. Anyhow...21 million is too rich for KC to stomach...and need the cap space. As far as Morse goes....KC already signed Austin Rieter (C) to an extension during the year last season. Reiter started while Morse was out with concussions. Morse is a very good player when available...but he's not been available all that much the last few years. He has concussion problems. You don't need to worry about KC trying to bring him back...he'll have a market (Buffalo being one of the interested teams, if not THE most interested team) I'll miss a healthy Morse in KC. If he's healthy, you'd be getting one hell of a center. Eric Berry will either be cut by this Friday or he'll be on the team. He is due a signifigant roster bonus this upcoming week. There had been talk of a post June 1 cut..but it is moot due to the bonus coming this week. EITHER WAY.....he is a huge dead money hit if released....his contract is untradable.....either he's cut this week or he isn't getting cut. either way, he is a big anchor on our payroll. Best we can hope for is that somehow, he gets healthy and returns to his old pro bowl level self. I don't think so...but we are kind of priced in until next off season when the cap hit is still substantial, but more palatable. He'll probalby be on the team for 2019. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, Zerovotlz said: Some info for you folks to ponder as FA approaches Justin Houston carried a 21 Million Dollar cap hit if he stayed with KC. Cutting him saved KC 14 million in Cap space with a cap hit of 7 million. Piror to his release today, KC only had 9 million in CAP SPACE. After his release (and the signing of Carlos Hyde) KC has about 22 Million in Space as of this post (there will probably be some more cap saving moves to come) There had been talk KC would want to renegotiate Houstons deal....and I think in most years, Houston would have been motivated to do so instead of being released. However, this FA crop of EDGE rushers is WEAK. Houston and his agent aren't dumb. They know this and they know that there are about 6 or 7 teams with a staggering payload of cap space that will line up to sign him. The Jets and Colts are going to be right at the top of the list. Watch the Falcons as well. houston is from the Atlanta area. I'd like to have Houston back..he's a good run defender AND pass rusher...very solid..but he's been too injured...KC probalby helped ruin his health by having him play on a bum knee they knew was bad a few years ago.....because he was getting paid after that 22 sack season and they needed him out there. Anyhow...21 million is too rich for KC to stomach...and need the cap space. As far as Morse goes....KC already signed Austin Rieter (C) to an extension during the year last season. Reiter started while Morse was out with concussions. Morse is a very good player when available...but he's not been available all that much the last few years. He has concussion problems. You don't need to worry about KC trying to bring him back...he'll have a market (Buffalo being one of the interested teams, if not THE most interested team) I'll miss a healthy Morse in KC. If he's healthy, you'd be getting one hell of a center. Eric Berry will either be cut by this Friday or he'll be on the team. He is due a signifigant roster bonus this upcoming week. There had been talk of a post June 1 cut..but it is moot due to the bonus coming this week. EITHER WAY.....he is a huge dead money hit if released....his contract is untradable.....either he's cut this week or he isn't getting cut. either way, he is a big anchor on our payroll. Best we can hope for is that somehow, he gets healthy and returns to his old pro bowl level self. I don't think so...but we are kind of priced in until next off season when the cap hit is still substantial, but more palatable. He'll probalby be on the team for 2019. When are you guys cutting Mahomes? That’s someone we might be interested in... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 58 minutes ago, whatdrought said: When are you guys cutting Mahomes? That’s someone we might be interested in... errmm......you kind of had your chance at him already....and kind of passed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Zerovotlz said: errmm......you kind of had your chance at him already....and kind of passed. Yeah, bullet dodged. My favorite part of bills season is the postgame press conferences and I can’t stand his voice. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Sign him !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 On 3/4/2019 at 8:47 PM, hmsmystic said: He's a 3-4 OLB over 30 coming off a huge deal. Not a scheme fit and likely won't be a bargain Neither was Lorenzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 On 3/5/2019 at 7:55 AM, ShadyBillsFan said: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26136728/chiefs-move-ford-houston-sources-say Houston has also been informed that the Chiefs will try to trade him, a source told ESPN, and if no deal is reached he will be released. Houston carries a salary-cap number of $21.1 million for next season; trading or releasing him would save the Chiefs $14 million against the salary cap. Wow! That a lot of money, im more comfortable in the ten million dollar range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I’ll actually be a little surprised if we don’t sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 10 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Neither was Lorenzo Can Houston be a fit here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 hours ago, njbuff said: Can Houston be a fit here? right at DE, our DEs about the same size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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