YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, CommonCents said: From every interview I have seen with him I can understand the negative reviews. Maybe he is a great guy and a leader but he sure comes off weird. From what I hear, that’s just his personality. He’s a quiet guy and not a fan of media. Doesn’t mean he can’t be a good leader but he’s nothing like the fiery personalities of Baker or Russ, who he’s been compared to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: From what I hear, that’s just his personality. He’s a quiet guy and not a fan of media. Doesn’t mean he can’t be a good leader but he’s nothing like the fiery personalities of Baker or Russ, who he’s been compared to. Kyrie Murray? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: And if they are? That would confirm that Klingsbury is blindly all in on Murray, as reported. Doesn't mean other teams didn't react the way Casserly is describing. That's what I've been saying. 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: If they're truly inflating measurements at the Combine, that's pretty sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Doc said: That's what I've been saying. If they're truly inflating measurements at the Combine, that's pretty sad. Inflategate?... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I’m telling you he ain’t 5’ 10”, unless they are measuring from the tip of his tallest braid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 14 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I’m telling you he ain’t 5’ 10”, unless they are measuring from the tip of his tallest braid. Maybe the combine is like the old WWF. I remember how they wildly inflated wrestler weights for instance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 so if they don't take the squirt out of oklahoma what will all this buzz do to the one and only great rosens head? seems every QB class out of the draft at least one or two of the bunch don't pan out. my guess it'll be rosen and possibly jackson with jackson having a slight better chance then the one and only rosen. just my my 2¢ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Maybe the combine is like the old WWF. I remember how they wildly inflated wrestler weights for instance The NFL always fudges numbers. The weights of O-lineman and interior D lineman are a joke. Some of these guys are over 6' 6" and they list tham at like 340 lbs. There a re a bunch of guys who are clearly over 400 lbs in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 The more QB’s top 8 the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: And how can we possibly know either way? All these teams do is lie and get false information. I guess we will have an answer soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, syhuang said: which team is most desperate to take their cast off? has to be washington? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I bet Charlie Casserly's interview with David Carr went swimmingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) I feel like if Rosen is truly available Washington almost has to make sure to outbid everyone else. They are paying big money to a QB that isn’t going to play in 2019. Their healthy QB is Colt McCoy who has started 27 games in his entire NFL career and has never proven anything. Due to the money invested in Alex Smith they are prohibited from spending big money like a Nick Foles. Yet they are too far out of reach at 15 to get one of the top 2 prospects in the draft. Edited March 7, 2019 by Bills2ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: The NFL always fudges numbers. The weights of O-lineman and interior D lineman are a joke. Some of these guys are over 6' 6" and they list tham at like 340 lbs. There a re a bunch of guys who are clearly over 400 lbs in the NFL. Don't get how much stock people get in the combine. If it's so important to value player why don't they go ahead and have NFL rosters run 40s and shuttles every year lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Smoke and mirrors. Take him if you want the next RGIII. He is going to regret not choosing baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 @GunnerBill - check it out: https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/07/josh-rosen-cardinals-trade-rumors-kyler-murray-nfl-draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: @GunnerBill - check it out: https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/07/josh-rosen-cardinals-trade-rumors-kyler-murray-nfl-draft Mr Benoit is even more bullish than I - but I think what he sees in tape reflects pretty closely what I saw. One of the accusations on Rosen coming out was that he was soft or mentally weak..... I think he dispelled that because he didn't allow his head to get scrambled despite the chaos around him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 ORLY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: ORLY There is only one reason to forego the height measurement, literally only one. It takes like 10 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: ORLY Holy crap... The Cardinals are sitting on the greatest pivot of "dudes I hate" with this QB thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, Bills2ref said: There is only one reason to forego the height measurement, literally only one. It takes like 10 seconds. Well he did it at the Combine and theoretically that should be the only measurement that is needed/counts. It's not like you can (in reality) gain or lose height within the space of a couple weeks. But if they fudged his height at the Combine, that's sad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Doc said: Well he did it at the Combine and theoretically that should be the only measurement that is needed/counts. It's not like you can (in reality) gain or lose height within the space of a couple weeks. But if they fudged his height at the Combine, that's sad. There is talk (for what that's worth) that his combine height was less than accurate. While this is likely just haters hating, by not taking the 5 seconds to do it this time (especially since he's getting weighed) he's just begging for that door to be opened. The reality is that it shouldn't matter, and in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't. The biggest issue is why? Everything about this guys pre-draft has been a mess. Edited March 13, 2019 by whatdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 can't scouts look at him and determine if they think he is tall enough for them? I'm 6' tall.....If i'm next to someone I can tell if he's taller or shorter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Doc said: Well he did it at the Combine and theoretically that should be the only measurement that is needed/counts. It's not like you can (in reality) gain or lose height within the space of a couple weeks. But if they fudged his height at the Combine, that's sad. That’s kind of what I’m thinking. I’m not much of a conspiracy theorist. But why re-weigh yourself and not have your height measured again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ndirish1978 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I hope he goes 1st overall. Rosen should be traded to the Giants, who now have 2 1st rd picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 This kid and his dad are just weird. Bust potential seems high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: *When she texts "come over" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: This kid and his dad are just weird. Bust potential seems high. Absolutely. He has a huge uphill battle to not be a bust at the NFL level IMO. Not that my opinion means much ?. But if the Cardinals didn’t take him first overall I am curious to see if he would be the first or second QB off the board. From all I’ve seen so far, I would take Haskins over him. And I’m not very high on Haskins either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, whatdrought said: There is talk (for what that's worth) that his combine height was less than accurate. While this is likely just haters hating, by not taking the 5 seconds to do it this time (especially since he's getting weighed) he's just begging for that door to be opened. The reality is that it shouldn't matter, and in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't. The biggest issue is why? Everything about this guys pre-draft has been a mess. Im more apt to believe the combine height than what he measures at his own pro day. I think this is just his camp's way of saying "We already measured well and are moving on so everyone can focus on what's important, his throwing". If he measures again, even if it is the same, it will be the main thing everyone reports on. I dont think anything nefarious is going on there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 He decided not to run the 40 too ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Im more apt to believe the combine height than what he measures at his own pro day. I think this is just his camp's way of saying "We already measured well and are moving on so everyone can focus on what's important, his throwing". If he measures again, even if it is the same, it will be the main thing everyone reports on. I dont think anything nefarious is going on there. I disagree- I think if he measures and it's the same it's just putting that conversation to bed. I think the unusualness of opting out has created more of a conversation than just nailing the measurement. (as evidenced by our conversation. ) 1 minute ago, Bills2ref said: He decided not to run the 40 too ?? What an idiot. Edited March 13, 2019 by whatdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Im more apt to believe the combine height than what he measures at his own pro day. I think this is just his camp's way of saying "We already measured well and are moving on so everyone can focus on what's important, his throwing". If he measures again, even if it is the same, it will be the main thing everyone reports on. I dont think anything nefarious is going on there. Yes. Presumably his weight can change, but his height can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alphadawg7 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) On 3/6/2019 at 3:31 PM, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: which team is most desperate to take their cast off? has to be washington? I think NYG. They can probably trade a 2nd or 3rd to get him instead of using one or both their first rounders to get Haskins. They can then grab a blue chip defender at 6 and a WR/OL at 17 to put around Rosen Edited March 13, 2019 by Alphadawg7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Murray will be a spectacular bust as an NFL QB. Shouldn’t be drafted anywhere near the first 2 rounds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I have to think he's been told by Arizona that he'll be the 1st overall QB taken. Otherwise you run the 40-yard. No one has talked about him making a position switch (outside of pitcher in MLB), unlike Jackson last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 46 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I disagree- I think if he measures and it's the same it's just putting that conversation to bed. I think the unusualness of opting out has created more of a conversation than just nailing the measurement. (as evidenced by our conversation. ) What an idiot. Lamar Jackson didn’t run a 40 last year at the combine or Pro Day either. Teams know who these players are. Almost quite literally doesn’t matter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 Lori Laughlin probably paid to have Kyler measured at the combine 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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