RPbillsfan Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Here is my best guess at the Bills offensive line in 2019. LT - Trent Brown LG - Wyatt Teller C - Mitch Morse RG - Dion Dawkins RT - Darryl Williams Reserves: C - Jeff Bodine G - Spencer Long T - Michael Dieter Lets see what others think. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Dawkins, Teller, another guy, another guy, another guy. /thread 4 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Brown, Morse and Williams may be the three best offensive lineman on the market. I like the optimism but too expect the Bills to sign all three of them is a bit absurd and unrealistic, especially considering the money it would take and the other needs on the team. It’s much more likely to land one of Morse, Paradis, Williams and Brown, and then draft another lineman, and sign one more lower tier offensive lineman. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said: Here is my best guess at the Bills offensive line in 2019. LT - Trent Brown LG - Wyatt Teller C - Mitch Morse RG - Dion Dawkins RT - Darryl Williams Reserves: C - Jeff Bodine G - Spencer Long T - Michael Dieter Lets see what others think. Don’t want anything to do with Trent Brown. Brady’s quic release makes him look a lot better than he is. The Giants learned that lesson last year with Nate Solder. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 Just now, offyourocker said: Don’t want anything to do with Trent Brown. Brady’s quic release makes him look a lot better than he is. The Giants learned that lesson last year with Nate Solder. That's a great point, I think he is a powerful run blocker, but may be more economical to leave Dawkins at LT and draft a guard in the 3rd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, elijah said: Brown, Morse and Williams may be the three best offensive lineman on the market. I like the optimism but too expect the Bills to sign all three of them is a bit absurd and unrealistic, especially considering the money it would take and the other needs on the team. It’s much more likely to land one of Morse, Paradis, Williams and Brown, and then draft another lineman, and sign one more lower tier offensive lineman. I'm thinking the Bills will sign a C and RT as a minimum in FA, also will resign Phillips at DT and add a TE and possibly a WR 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) Get Paradis/Morse at center and Williams/James at RT and let the draft come to you.? Edited February 23, 2019 by TheBeaneBandit Spelling 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Of course that is just oline only. I would also go after at least one more weapon (TE or WR) on offense and on D I'd go after Sheldon Richardson at DT. Then the draft could truly be close to BPA with still even a little wheeling and dealing if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 36 minutes ago, offyourocker said: Don’t want anything to do with Trent Brown. Brady’s quic release makes him look a lot better than he is. The Giants learned that lesson last year with Nate Solder. And all Tedford QB's suck! Not discounting your point, but you have to look at each player individually. I think Brown is a perfect fit because of his size and physicality. The fact that Solder didn't pan out doesn't mean Brown won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, elijah said: Brown, Morse and Williams may be the three best offensive lineman on the market. I like the optimism but too expect the Bills to sign all three of them is a bit absurd and unrealistic, especially considering the money it would take and the other needs on the team. It’s much more likely to land one of Morse, Paradis, Williams and Brown, and then draft another lineman, and sign one more lower tier offensive lineman. I'm not so sure about this. Last year, with less cap space, Beane spent $20 mil on the D-line. He doesn't want to have cap issues when it comes to re-signing players int he future, but I could see him spending $40 mil this year on 2 OL, a TE, and a WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Dawkins was tried at Guard. He was horrendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Here’s my guess: LT - Andre Dillard LG - Dion Dawkins C - Mitch Morse RG - John Miller (that’s my surprise) RT - Ja’Wuan James 3 minutes ago, Mountain Man said: Dawkins was tried at Guard. He was horrendous. That was RT. I don’t think that he has played OG in the NFL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) I think it we will get a Center in Free Agency and a Tackle in the draft and that's it for starters. LT - Dawkins LG - Teller C - Morse RG - Long RT - A rookie (Taylor preferably) People are kidding themselves if they think we'll multiple big name free agents. There is huge competition, and very few players to go around 1 hour ago, elijah said: Brown, Morse and Williams may be the three best offensive lineman on the market. I like the optimism but too expect the Bills to sign all three of them is a bit absurd and unrealistic, especially considering the money it would take and the other needs on the team. It’s much more likely to land one of Morse, Paradis, Williams and Brown, and then draft another lineman, and sign one more lower tier offensive lineman. Exactly. Edited February 23, 2019 by Mountain Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, Mountain Man said: Dawkins was tried at Guard. He was horrendous. Stop saying that every damn chance you get. You're the only person who thinks this and clearly are in the wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Stop saying that every damn chance you get. You're the only person who thinks this and clearly are in the wrong. I don't think you understand how forums work...... People post posts. There isn't a rule they have to agree with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Considering that they need a RT its kinda crazy to thing they can get 2 tackles that are better than him. Plus no one really knows if he is any good at guard or a better guard than a tackle. For my money I would like to see then bring in a good proven tackle and guard in FA and then draft some potential. IMO last year the center and guard play is what killed the offense. Dawkins is ok at LT and with 2 strong FA additions line play would be greatly improved. If the new center is better than what they had the line would be better at 3 spots, without even looking at any of the players they might take in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 LT - Dion Dawkins LG - Wyatt Teller C - Matt Paradis (highest paid center in the league) RG - Spencer Long RT - Dalton Risner (2nd round pick) Reserves: C - Jeff Bodine G - Bobby Evans (4th round pick) T - Jordan Mills (sorry about this) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Tatonka68 said: LT - Dion Dawkins LG - Wyatt Teller C - Matt Paradis (highest paid center in the league) RG - Spencer Long RT - Dalton Risner (2nd round pick) Reserves: C - Jeff Bodine G - Bobby Evans (4th round pick) T - Jordan Mills (sorry about this) This is more realistic then thinking Beane is going to sign 3 big names in FA to $10M+ a year deals.. I can’t really speculate what they are going to do as so much depends on whether they can get Morse or. Paradis.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 hour ago, RPbillsfan said: Here is my best guess at the Bills offensive line in 2019. LT - Trent Brown LG - Wyatt Teller C - Mitch Morse RG - Dion Dawkins RT - Darryl Williams Reserves: C - Jeff Bodine G - Spencer Long T - Michael Dieter Lets see what others think. That’s REALLY what you think our starting OL is going to be? Or is this what you’d like to see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: Here is my best guess at the Bills offensive line in 2019. LT - Trent Brown LG - Wyatt Teller C - Mitch Morse RG - Dion Dawkins RT - Darryl Williams Reserves: C - Jeff Bodine G - Spencer Long T - Michael Dieter Lets see what others think. This would be sweet, but I think if we get 2 of the 3 FA's here, we'd be considered lucky. My picks would be Morse and Williams. Keep Dawkins at LT and draft someone to compete with Long/Miller at RG. Edited February 23, 2019 by BillsRdue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 hour ago, eball said: Dawkins, Teller, another guy, another guy, another guy. /thread That’s my prediction as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 LT - Dion Dawkins LG - Wyatt Teller C - Garrett Bradbury / Ross Persinger (3rd/4th round Pick) RG - Dalton Risner (2nd Round Pick) RT - Darryl Williams FA (Carolina) Reserves: G/C - Spencer Long G - Another Rookie Pick T - Jordan Mills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, WideRightRevenge said: C - Garrett Bradbury / Ross Persinger (3rd/4th round Pick) Can’t see this happening.. Beane has said he wants an experienced C.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) Dion Dawkins Elgton Jenkind Mitch Morse Spencer Long Darryl Williams Edited February 23, 2019 by Juice_32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: Here is my best guess at the Bills offensive line in 2019. LT - Trent Brown LG - Wyatt Teller C - Mitch Morse RG - Dion Dawkins RT - Darryl Williams Reserves: C - Jeff Bodine G - Spencer Long T - Michael Dieter Lets see what others think. 2 hours ago, elijah said: Brown, Morse and Williams may be the three best offensive lineman on the market. I like the optimism but too expect the Bills to sign all three of them is a bit absurd and unrealistic, especially considering the money it would take and the other needs on the team. It’s much more likely to land one of Morse, Paradis, Williams and Brown, and then draft another lineman, and sign one more lower tier offensive lineman. Likely scenario is closer closer to Elijah, land one of the top two centers, also go after a good but not top level guard or RT, then use a high draft choice on one lineman who will start as a rookie. That leave you two FA signed lineman, Dawkins, a rookie and one undecided. That fifth spot and reserves could be a combination of Teller, or Sirius (SP) McDermott or there was another guy who was activated for a number of the late season games, plus maybe also a 4th round pick, and/or a mid to lower level FA signing. Other than the top level center, I'd try and limit the other FA OL contracts to less than 3 years as would use a high 2020 pick as his eventual replacement by like 2021 or so. Likely Beane is looking for one solid more long term answer, and a couple of stop gap players to hold down the fort until he can either draft or sign another long term FA in 2020 and 2021. 1 hour ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Get Paradis/Morse at center and Williams/James at RT and let the draft come to you.? Edited February 23, 2019 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Can’t see this happening.. Beane has said he wants an experienced C.. True. But it's likely they draft one at some point. I mean, you can't just keep shuffling between FA's every 3 years and build continuity with JA. So, draft a good one, let him learn from/ backup/compete with a vet. If the rook wins, the rook wins. It may not be ideal, but that's how it goes. And actually what Beane said is "he'd sleep a lot better at night knowing he had a vet at C". At some point, we have to have our own guy that can be in place for 8+ years if we wanna have that continuity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Just now, BuffAlone said: True. But it's likely they draft one at some point. I mean, you can't just keep shuffling between FA's every 3 years and build continuity with JA. So, draft a good one, let him learn from/ backup/compete with a vet. If the rook wins, the rook wins. It may not be ideal, but that's how it goes. And actually what Beane said is "he'd sleep a lot better at night knowing he had a vet at C". At some point, we have to have our own guy that can be in place for 8+ years if we wanna have that continuity Its a possibility that they still draft one and will be almost a certainty if they miss out on Morse/Paradis.. I like Bradbury but they would need to pick him in the 2nd I think to be sure of getting him, but can’t see him as the starter in 2019. Its probably why they bought Long- to be the insurance policy in 2019 if they miss the top 2 guys and their rookie takes time to get up to speed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 LT - Dion Dawkins LG - Spencer Long C - Mitch Morse RG - Wyatt Teller RT - Jonah Williams 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieG Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I will say I'm impressed with the optimism in this thread and I'd be happy with many of those scenarios. But call me a cynic, or just grumpy, I'm not expecting Beane to lay out the money many of these guys are commanding. (Except Williams and the Carolina Pipeline). Note sure he'll pay $12 million a year as Paradis might command or $10 million a year that Morse might collect. For that amount of money, I can see him saying...nah, we'll stick with Bodine. I'm really expecting more signings like Long..and I don't say that in a positive manner. I really hope I'm wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) Despite what he says about being “judicious”,Beane paid big bucks for Star, so based on the limited time he has been here, he has demonstrated he will pay to fill a hole.. He won’t spend big on three OL free agents as suggested by the OP though., nor should he.. Edited February 23, 2019 by Aussie Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Despite what he says about being “judicious”,Beane paid big bucks for Star, so based on the limited time he has been here, he has demonstrated he will pay to fill a hole.. He won’t spend big on three OL free agents as suggested by the OP though., nor should he.. I think the Bills will spend big at C and RT and at a lower level at G. I think DT (2, Phillips and FA), and TE like Jessie James. That opens the draft for TE and WR in Rounds 1 & 2, I'm hoping Hockenson and Butler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 3 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: Here is my best guess at the Bills offensive line in 2019. LT - Trent Brown LG - Wyatt Teller C - Mitch Morse RG - Dion Dawkins RT - Darryl Williams Reserves: C - Jeff Bodine G - Spencer Long T - Michael Dieter Lets see what others think. I hope this happens but u got Beane going all out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 LT Dawkins LG Teller C Long RG DJ Fluker RT D Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said: I think the Bills will spend big at C and RT and at a lower level at G. I think DT (2, Phillips and FA), and TE like Jessie James. That opens the draft for TE and WR in Rounds 1 & 2, I'm hoping Hockenson and Butler. They will probably only get one big name... there is a lot of demand as has been stated and I don’t think Beane doubles up in OL in the same free agency period with two splashy signings. I can’t see them taking TE with their first pick.. I could see them picking Irv Smith with their second if he is still there..maybe even entertain a trade up depending on how much Daboll wants him.. Edited February 23, 2019 by Aussie Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: Its a possibility that they still draft one and will be almost a certainty if they miss out on Morse/Paradis.. I like Bradbury but they would need to pick him in the 2nd I think to be sure of getting him, but can’t see him as the starter in 2019. Its probably why they bought Long- to be the insurance policy in 2019 if they miss the top 2 guys and their rookie takes time to get up to speed.. pretty much my thoughts as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 49 minutes ago, CookieG said: I will say I'm impressed with the optimism in this thread and I'd be happy with many of those scenarios. But call me a cynic, or just grumpy, I'm not expecting Beane to lay out the money many of these guys are commanding. (Except Williams and the Carolina Pipeline). Note sure he'll pay $12 million a year as Paradis might command or $10 million a year that Morse might collect. For that amount of money, I can see him saying...nah, we'll stick with Bodine. I'm really expecting more signings like Long..and I don't say that in a positive manner. I really hope I'm wrong. I think Beane will absolutely pay a top dollar for either Paradis or Morse. If they refuse to sign, he will draft a Center early, 2nd or 3rd rd. We saw what happened last year. Its imperative to steady our line play, specifically at C. Something to keep in mind also is that while Beane says he will be judicious with our cap, there IS a minimum that we MUST spend. I can't think of a better spot to spend that than on a veteran center 1 hour ago, wppete said: LT - Dion Dawkins LG - Spencer Long C - Mitch Morse RG - Wyatt Teller RT - Jonah Williams I like that a lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 LT - Jonah Williams LG - Dion Dawkins C - Mitch Morse RG - Wyatt Teller RT - Daryl Williams The Bills have to replenish their supply of Williamses!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Ill let you know as soon as McBean picks them ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck204 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, Special K said: LT - Jonah Williams LG - Dion Dawkins C - Mitch Morse RG - Wyatt Teller RT - Daryl Williams The Bills have to replenish their supply of Williamses!? Really like this, but I'm not sure we'll land 2 top o-lineman in F/A. Could also do Long at LG and Dawkins at RT in this scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 What I want: LT - Taylor (Round 1) LG - Saffold (LAR) C - Paradis (DEN) RG - Lindstrom (Round 2) RT - Dawkins What I think: LT - Dawkins LG - Teller C - Long RG - Pierschbacher (Round 4) RT - Williams (CAR) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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