YoloinOhio Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) https://www.cover1.net/buffalo-bills-hire-ken-dorsey-nfl-draft/ Quote Dorsey was hired last December by head coach Eliah Drinkwitz (Appalachian State) in the role of offensive assistant. I imagine Drinkwitz wanted to find some role for Dorsey because of Dorsey’s experience with mobile QBs and how to structure an offense around them. Not from a rushing sense, but from how to properly mesh the run and pass structures and how to possibly improve upon the 11-2 season.upon the 11-2 season.In Dorsey’s few short months working at App State, he reportedly was “working on recruiting and assisting with the Mountaineers’ offensive plans.” Drinkwitz, the former offensive coordinator and QB coach of the NC State Wolfpack, is taking over a program that ran the ball 62% of the time in 2018, and their QB, Zac Thomas, a mobile QB, pitched in 92 attempts on the ground for 504 yards and 10 touchdowns. Going from a pocket QB in Ryan Finley to a more mobile QB and dual-threat offense is quite the change. Dorsey was the only one out of program hired directly by Drinkwitz. Dorsey reportedly attended games at App State during his coaching years at Carolina. The campus is located in Boone, North Carolina, so Dorsey was able to attend a bunch of games, seeing as how the campus was only two hours from the Panthers’ stadium. Having coached for the Wolfpack for several years, Drinkwitz and NC State head coach Dave Doeren have crossed paths with Brandon Beane or Sean McDermott, and this is where it gets fun for draftniks This is from last year... interesting read on McDermott’s inner circle in the college ranks The NC State C Bradbury would fall into this as he was coached by Doeren Edited February 3, 2019 by YoloinOhio 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Very interesting. Another thought is that he may be there to step into the OC role if Daboll does end up with a HC job in the next couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 The article didn't really clarify how Dorsey might influence the draft 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 Dorsey also has 2 years experience in pro scouting with Carolina, and as Asst AD last year at FAU 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 48 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Dorsey also has 2 years experience in pro scouting with Carolina, and as Asst AD last year at FAU Que FAU RB! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, stuvian said: The article didn't really clarify how Dorsey might influence the draft That’s why I don’t read the Cover 1 blogs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Sounds like a good hire. We’ll see if JA improves this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Sounds like a good hire. We’ll see if JA improves this year. That's more on Allen then the coaches. Edited February 3, 2019 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commish Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: https://www.cover1.net/buffalo-bills-hire-ken-dorsey-nfl-draft/ This is from last year... interesting read on McDermott’s inner circle in the college ranks The NC State C Bradbury would fall into this as he was coached by Doeren Speaking of Bradbury, he looks pretty athletic, channeling his inner Kyle Williams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXyVjBWiG3s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 9 hours ago, stuvian said: The article didn't really clarify how Dorsey might influence the draft Maintaining his connection with Drinkwitz and his familiarity with some top prospects from NC State. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, TheTruthHurts said: That's more on Allen then the coaches. I agree, but his coach plays a role. Enjoy the SB. GO RAMS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said: Sounds like a good hire. We’ll see if JA improves this year. ....surprised they didn't grab Dorsey when Carolina let him walk.......maybe Culley had a year left on his contract.....Dorsey could be Palmerish.....lackluster NFL career but good teacher....stay tuned.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Interesting article. Tosses a bit of shade on Daboll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 12 hours ago, stuvian said: The article didn't really clarify how Dorsey might influence the draft This may clear things up for people. Hiring Dorsey has no impact on the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....surprised they didn't grab Dorsey when Carolina let him walk.......maybe Culley had a year left on his contract.....Dorsey could be Palmerish.....lackluster NFL career but good teacher....stay tuned.............. They interviewed Dorsey for OC in 2017 so he was definitely on their radar... could have been a number of factors that led to him not being here until now. I think you are right about last year and Culley contract, plus I think Culley did a good job considering the circumstances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: They interviewed Dorsey for OC in 2017 so he was definitely on their radar... could have been a number of factors that led to him not being here until now. I think you are right about last year and Culley contract, plus I think Culley did a good job considering the circumstances. What did you like about the job Culley did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, White Linen said: What did you like about the job Culley did? Do you think Allen improved and played better during the course of the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Do you think Allen improved and played better during the course of the year? Only after Derek Anderson came on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, White Linen said: What did you like about the job Culley did? As I referenced the circumstances - he had to coach 5 different starting QBs under 2 different offensive schemes/OCs, 4 of which were not starting caliber and one a raw rookie (Allen) who was not expected to be ready to play year 1... 2 of which who had been with the team like 10 days with no TC anywhere, right off the couch...1 of which was extremely limited (Peterman). All with different skill sets. I thought he did a good job given the circumstances. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 15 hours ago, stuvian said: The article didn't really clarify how Dorsey might influence the draft Thinks we will go after Bradbury and other Wolfpack players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Thinks we will go after Bradbury and other Wolfpack players. Yep, and notes that McDermott went down to the field the watch Bradbury practice during senior bowl Edited February 3, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 14 hours ago, BillyWhiteShows said: That’s why I don’t read the Cover 1 blogs... Well that's not what you told me. You said that you didn't read Cover 1 because Erik Turner isn't a real expert, which meant that the stats he posted didn't matter Seriously though, not reading the article is fine, but criticizing it without reading it is odd, especially considering that the draft impact from Dorsey idea was made very clear: he has relationships with certain schools, and so he'd have more incite into players from those schools; if Buffalo happened to have a need at a position that a player from one of those schools could fill, then that may push their draft decision in that direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: As I referenced the circumstances - he had to coach 5 different starting QBs under 2 different offensive schemes/OCs, 4 of which were not starting caliber and one a raw rookie (Allen) who was not expected to be ready to play year 1... 2 of which who had been with the team like 10 days with no TC anywhere, right off the couch...1 of which was extremely limited (Peterman). All with different skill sets. I thought he did a good job given the circumstances. Ok, so you're speaking in general terms because of the circumstances. I have no idea what kind of impact Culley specifically could have had on our QB situation - and thought you might have. I agree the offensive team did decent for what they had and Culley would presumably get a portion of the credit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: Well that's not what you told me. You said that you didn't read Cover 1 because Erik Turner isn't a real expert, which meant that the stats he posted didn't matter Seriously though, not reading the article is fine, but criticizing it without reading it is odd, especially considering that the draft impact from Dorsey idea was made very clear: he has relationships with certain schools, and so he'd have more incite into players from those schools; if Buffalo happened to have a need at a position that a player from one of those schools could fill, then that may push their draft decision in that direction plain enough : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 hours ago, thebandit27 said: Well that's not what you told me. You said that you didn't read Cover 1 because Erik Turner isn't a real expert, which meant that the stats he posted didn't matter Seriously though, not reading the article is fine, but criticizing it without reading it is odd, especially considering that the draft impact from Dorsey idea was made very clear: he has relationships with certain schools, and so he'd have more incite into players from those schools; if Buffalo happened to have a need at a position that a player from one of those schools could fill, then that may push their draft decision in that direction Its all speculation on his part - which is exactly why I don’t read them. But to be fair it’s not just Cover 1, it’s also Buffalo Rumblings. They aren’t pros nor do they have the access to players like journalists do. I get slightly irked when people consider Cover 1 bloggers to be more than they are — fans with a Bills blog. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 21 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Dorsey also has 2 years experience in pro scouting with Carolina, and as Asst AD last year at FAU I believe FIU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 4 hours ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Its all speculation on his part - which is exactly why I don’t read them. But to be fair it’s not just Cover 1, it’s also Buffalo Rumblings. They aren’t pros nor do they have the access to players like journalists do. I get slightly irked when people consider Cover 1 bloggers to be more than they are — fans with a Bills blog. As a former credentialed AP writer, I promise you that journalists are no different--fans with pens that many times know less than HS football players. Just sayin' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 45 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: As a former credentialed AP writer, I promise you that journalists are no different--fans with pens that many times know less than HS football players. Just sayin' As a former credentialed broadcast journalist in the UK I second this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 I like the hire... I'm just surprised it didn't happen last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lafromboise Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Soo whats wrong with that. Im sure people would like to hear or read opinions of our team from someone else. Thats why were all here. On 2/3/2019 at 3:43 PM, BillyWhiteShows said: Its all speculation on his part - which is exactly why I don’t read them. But to be fair it’s not just Cover 1, it’s also Buffalo Rumblings. They aren’t pros nor do they have the access to players like journalists do. I get slightly irked when people consider Cover 1 bloggers to be more than they are — fans with a Bills blog. On 2/3/2019 at 3:43 PM, BillyWhiteShows said: Its all speculation on his part - which is exactly why I don’t read them. But to be fair it’s not just Cover 1, it’s also Buffalo Rumblings. They aren’t pros nor do they have the access to players like journalists do. I get slightly irked when people consider Cover 1 bloggers to be more than they are — fans with a Bills blog. Soo whats wrong with that. Im sure people would like to hear or read opinions of our team from someone else. Thats why were all here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 In addition to Hakeem Butler and David Montgomery because of Analytics-Iowa-State-Guy, we're going to draft Jalin Moore because of Short-Stay-App-State-Guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 On 2/3/2019 at 11:29 AM, White Linen said: What did you like about the job Culley did? Our WRs really took...Oh wait, never mind.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 On 2/27/2019 at 4:30 PM, BuffaloHokie13 said: In addition to Hakeem Butler and David Montgomery because of Analytics-Iowa-State-Guy, we're going to draft Jalin Moore because of Short-Stay-App-State-Guy. David Montgomery is my guy. I think he's going to be a very solid RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 59 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: David Montgomery is my guy. I think he's going to be a very solid RB. I think he's going higher than we want to pick RB, but I do like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 I once took Dorsey as the Bills' QB in Madden franchise mode and developed him into the top QB in the league. It would be fitting for him to return the favor with Allen, but in real life. Get it done, Dorsey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YoloinOhio Posted April 28, 2019 Author Share Posted April 28, 2019 Coming in handy again 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 If I am an UDFA linebacker I am trying out in Buffalo. Zo, Milano and Edmunds are the starters. Vosean Davis is a lock. After that it is an open competition for a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 28, 2019 Author Share Posted April 28, 2019 56 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: If I am an UDFA linebacker I am trying out in Buffalo. Zo, Milano and Edmunds are the starters. Vosean Davis is a lock. After that it is an open competition for a job. Really thin group... but then again the draft class is also thin so not sure how much viable talent is out there in the Udfa pool. I like McDermott’s eye for LBs though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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