Scorp83 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) This is a great listen, Jeremy this morning pretty much compared the Bills to Ronald Wayne ? ... this is almost indisputable facts. This is my main reason why McBeane makes me nervous! Start at 23:40... give a listen at work, or at the gym... but it's good stuff. https://app.radio.com/MJ5unHqhtT It's the 6am hour (HR1 of today's show 1/14/19) fast forward to 23:40 unless u care to hear the rant about Tom Brady Edited January 14, 2019 by Scorp83 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 What hour of the show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Can you summarize for those who can’t listen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Who's Ronald Wayne ? 10 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: What hour of the show? Hour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, clearwater cadet said: Who's Ronald Wayne ? Bruce's clownish hamburger making brother? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, clearwater cadet said: Who's Ronald Wayne ? Thank you. I was starting to feel left out here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Looked up the name the guy who owned 10% of Apple and sold it before they made it big. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Scorp83 said: Hour 1 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Can you summarize for those who can’t listen? Sure. So Ronald Wayne was the co founder for Apple with Steve Jobs & Wozniak.... he sold his 10% Share (which is worth $100 Billion right now) for $800 ... Jeremy & Howard were comparing it to the Bill's situation. "We pretty much sold our 10% share of Pat Mahomes for $800 & a good cornerback" But it's more to it then just that, its mainly how good does Allen has to be for the decision to be justified? They're saying "he needs to be in the discussion of top 5...if Allen tops out as a top 12 QB...then the Bills have fallen short" 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Looked up the name the guy who owned 10% of Apple and sold it before they made it big. Interesting. I wonder what the indisputable facts are that link the bills to this guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Scorp83 said: Sure. So Ronald Wayne was the co founder for Apple with Steve Jobs & Wozniak.... he sold his 10% Share (which is worth $100 Billion right now) for $800 ... Jeremy & Howard were comparing it to the Bill's situation. "We pretty much sold our 10% share of Pat Mahomes for $800 & a good cornerback" But it's more to it then just that, its mainly how good does Allen has to be for the decision to be justified? They're saying "he needs to be in the discussion of top 5...if Allen tops out as a top 12 QB...then the Bills have fallen short" That's a terrible analogy. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Okay, but what if Ronald Wayne had taken that $800 and invested it in Amazon or something else. I'm not saying that Josh Allen is necessarily the Amazon to Mahomes Apple. But it's too early to tell. Mahomes isn't a rookie, he's in his second year, which is what Allen will be in next year before we can really compare. Mahomes also has a better supporting cast around him than Allen did in 2018. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wo-Bah Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 When I first read the title, I thought it said "Wayne Arnold". I believe there's a poster on here with that name.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills88 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 What does that say about the other 9 teams that drafted before the BILLS, I'm sure if every team knew what Mahomes would have become he would have been the first off the during the 2017 draft, and I think the (Cleveland, Chicago,San Fran) would have been happy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) No more or less than any other team in the NFL. There were nine teams ahead of the Bills pick that round that could have taken him, and any other team in the league could have moved up if they thought Mahomes was all that. This kind of hindsight crap is just that - crap. Edited January 14, 2019 by oldmanfan 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Never heard of Ronald Wayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: No more or less than any other team in the NFL. There were nine teams ahead of the Bills pick that round that could have taken him, and any other team in the league could have moved up if they thought Mahomes was all that. This kind of hindsight crap is just that - crap. Careful- the last time I pointed this out I was abused by other posters for “deflecting” and “who cares what other teams do? - this is a Bills message board!” I think I asked a question of whether the Bengals message board started a new Mahomes thread every day for picking John Ross the pick before Mahomes., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 This thread would've been so riveting if anyone knew who the hell Ronald Wayne was. ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPBillsFan Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 50 minutes ago, Scorp83 said: This is a great listen, Jeremy this morning pretty much compared the Bills to Ronald Wayne ? ... this is almost indisputable facts. This is my main reason why McBeane makes me nervous! Start at 23:40... give a listen at work, or at the gym... but it's good stuff. https://app.radio.com/MJ5unHqhtT It's the 6am hour (HR1 of today's show 1/14/19) fast forward to 23:40 unless u care to hear the rant about Tom Brady Nice... good listen. My only thing is & they touched on it during the show, McDermott didn't know if Mahomes would have been good or not...let alone a Superstar QB. I understand the point that was made too... Allen will have to be really good, cause from my understanding there wasn't much difference in the scouting reports for Mahomes & Allen. Both had a big arm, both were viewed as athletic, ect. I think this will continue to be a debate until Allen becomes really good. Because they didn't take him & sold they're stock... it forced us to voluntarily get into cap issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I was thinking Reggie Wayne when I first saw this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPBillsFan Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: Okay, but what if Ronald Wayne had taken that $800 and invested it in Amazon or something else. I'm not saying that Josh Allen is necessarily the Amazon to Mahomes Apple. But it's too early to tell. Mahomes isn't a rookie, he's in his second year, which is what Allen will be in next year before we can really compare. Mahomes also has a better supporting cast around him than Allen did in 2018. True... but that's the point... there's many ways the Bills could have went & still can go. It's just you had something there, of need, & you chose to get out of it, cause you felt it wasn't a good deal. Like Jeremy said "it could work out for the Bills but our lives could have been completely different" 9 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Careful- the last time I pointed this out I was abused by other posters for “deflecting” and “who cares what other teams do? - this is a Bills message board!” I think I asked a question of whether the Bengals message board started a new Mahomes thread every day for picking John Ross the pick before Mahomes., I hear you, but in think our situation is different from the other 9 teams... we actually had the pick... we weren't part of the 9 teams, we were the main team. We gave up the pick. Yes, the Chiefs could have traded to 6, 7, 8 or 9... but they chose to wait...because the price was cheaper getting him at 10, then say the top 6. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 42 minutes ago, clearwater cadet said: Who's Ronald Wayne ? Bruce’s brother I think. I’m outraged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Christ, I really, really, really hope Allen ends up being great. Not just for the obvious reasons but also so we don't get another ten years of this Mahomes crap 6 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) Here's the direct link to WGR-550's website for the show and hour 1 from 1-14-19. Starts at 33'58" or so. Ronald Wayne is the 3rd original Apple co-founder no one knows b/c he got out of the business early, before he would have turned into a mega billionaire. Sold his stake in Apple for $800; would have blossomed into $30+ billion. https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/01-14-hr-1-howard-and-jeremy-show Edited January 14, 2019 by Nextmanup 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Oh, and one other thing, if Mahomes ends up having a terrible game next week, I guarantee there will be people who fall off the bandwagon and go completely OTT the other way, exactly the same as they did when Luck suddenly became overrated at the weekend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: Christ, I really, really, really hope Allen ends up being great. Not just for the obvious reasons but also so we don't get another ten years of this Mahomes crap Hey, I'm with you, I for one Hope's Allen is a top 5 QB, then everyone will be happy. But, our HC made that decision & has to live with it until that happens. Every game, every year, every wow moment we watch of Pat Mahomes... someone will post how much it stings. I just heard a good listen & wanted to share it. We can't ignore it... cause if Allen isn't good... passing on Mahomes will become heighten in the next 2 years 21 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: Oh, and one other thing, if Mahomes ends up having a terrible game next week, I guarantee there will be people who fall off the bandwagon and go completely OTT the other way, exactly the same as they did when Luck suddenly became overrated at the weekend It still doesn't erase 50 TD's & over 5,000 passing yards. ?? Edited January 14, 2019 by Scorp83 Typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, WPBillsFan said: I hear you, but in think our situation is different from the other 9 teams... we actually had the pick... we weren't part of the 9 teams, we were the main team. We gave up the pick. Yes, the Chiefs could have traded to 6, 7, 8 or 9... but they chose to wait...because the price was cheaper getting him at 10, then say the top 6. The Bears gave up two thirds and a fourth to go from 3 to 2 to pick Mitch Trubinsky... How stupid were they when they could have stayed at 3 or even traded down and still picked up Mahomes... Hindsight hey? Everything looks so clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Scorp83 said: Hey, I'm with you, I for one Hope's Allen is a top 5 QB, then everyone will be happy. But, our HC made that decision & has to love with it until that happens. Every game, every year, every wow moment we watch of Pat Mahomes... someone will post how much it stings. I just heard a good listen & wanted to share it. We can't ignore it... cause if Allen isn't good... passing on Mahomes will become heighten in the next 2 years It still doesn't erase 50 TD's & over 5,000 passing yards. ?? Or bear with me... we could not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Scorp83 said: Hey, I'm with you, I for one Hope's Allen is a top 5 QB, then everyone will be happy. But, our HC made that decision & has to love with it until that happens. Every game, every year, every wow moment we watch of Pat Mahomes... someone will post how much it stings. I just heard a good listen & wanted to share it. We can't ignore it... cause if Allen isn't good... passing on Mahomes will become heighten in the next 2 years It still doesn't erase 50 TD's & over 5,000 passing yards. ?? No it won't, he's had an amazing year, but there will be people who will call him a choker or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just now, Aussie Joe said: The Bears gave up two thirds and a fourth to go from 3 to 2 to pick Mitch Trubinsky... How stupid were they when they could have stayed at 3 or even traded down and still picked up Mahomes... Hindsight hey? Everything looks so clear. How about the Browns they were picking 1st again and could of taken him the Jets were ahead of the Bills that draft as well and Jacksonville and the 49ers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I'm interested to see if people here will try to make cases about Allen being overrated if we ever get him a nice supporting cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPBillsFan Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: The Bears gave up two thirds and a fourth to go from 3 to 2 to pick Mitch Trubinsky... How stupid were they when they could have stayed at 3 or even traded down and still picked up Mahomes... Hindsight hey? Everything looks so clear. Not really, the Bears really wanted Trubisky...everyone knew that. That's not the same of having a huge need at the position, sitting at 10... & literally gave it up for a team to come & take him...with our pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just now, WPBillsFan said: Not really, the Bears really wanted Trubisky...everyone knew that. That's not the same of having a huge need at the position, sitting at 10... & literally gave it up for a team to come & take him...with our pick. Well the Bears were wrong as Mahomes is the better player by far yet they traded up to acquire a lesser player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 this ron wayne guy is really taking it on the chin today. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, teef said: this ron wayne guy is really taking it on the chin today. Guy is seriously unlucky he sold the original agreement that him, Woz, and Jobs signed for $500 in the 90's and it then sold at auction in 2011 for $1.6 million. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce_Stools Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 The bills have been more like Barry Horowitz in the past lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, BBills88 said: What does that say about the other 9 teams that drafted before the BILLS, I'm sure if every team knew what Mahomes would have become he would have been the first off the during the 2017 draft, and I think the (Cleveland, Chicago,San Fran) would have been happy. The other teams must be the Winklevoss twins. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 And I thought he must be a wide receiver who dropped the ball. Turns out he simply dropped the apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I try my best not to put too much stock into what Jeremy White says. It makes my head hurt too much when I do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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