LabattBlue Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) Holy crap. Watched him last night. He is a MONSTER. Pencil him in as an All-Pro for the next decade. I guess taking a OG at #6 isn’t such a bad idea. Edited December 31, 2018 by LabattBlue 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I had him rated as the second best player in the draft, if not fr the QBs he would have got picked alot higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Cody Ford should at least be in discussion when we pick in round 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Holy crap. Watched him last night. He is a MONSTER. Pencil him in as an All-Pro for the next decade. I guess taking a OG at #6 isn’t such a bad idea. He's the real deal. I like some of our draft options this year, but not sure picking at the top 10, many are throwing Jonah Williams out there but there are some quality OT, OG, and 3 centers I like that are round 2-3 options depending what the Bills do in FA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Not only did Indy get the player they wanted, but they got 3 extra 2nd rounders from the Jets. They got picks 37 & 49 in 2018 & the Jets #2 this year which will be in the mid 30s of the entire draft to move down 3 slots. Anyone criticizing the Bills for trading up to pick 7 (and getting pick 255 which didn't work out) by moving from 21 giving up Cordy Glenn to get to 12 & then trading picks 12, 53 and 56 should realize that the Bills made a pretty good deal. Looking at the trade up from 12, the Bills moved 5 spots & gave up 2 lower 2nd round picks. The Jets gave up a lot more for Darnold than the Bills gave up for Allen & at this point the 2 are pretty equal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, WideNine said: He's the real deal. I like some of our draft options this year, but not sure picking at the top 10, many are throwing Jonah Williams out there but there are some quality OT, OG, and 3 centers I like that are round 2-3 options depending what the Bills do in FA. I agree, some great options in round 2-3. Whoever we get, at whatever position, needs to be a disruptor that other teams need to plan around. Allen is turning into that. You pick top 15, that's what you need. I think by the time we pick, the "disruptors" remaining will be either CB, WR, DL. I see us addressing the OL in FA, IMO. Too important to hope for a rookie to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: I agree, some great options in round 2-3. Whoever we get, at whatever position, needs to be a disruptor that other teams need to plan around. Allen is turning into that. You pick top 15, that's what you need. I think by the time we pick, the "disruptors" remaining will be either CB, WR, DL. I see us addressing the OL in FA, IMO. Too important to hope for a rookie to get it. I am not even sure any of the WRs grade out that high this year, there are a few TE's that do though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Major Home run for the Colts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like anyone is even close to his level in this years draft. It is suppose to be deep at OT though. I’m leaning to WR in round 1 and OT in round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 They got Braden Smith in the 2nd as well. One of my favorite players in the Draft last year. Happy for the Colts. I really like Reich and Ballard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 The 2018 draft looks like a great one, at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemfield2622 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 The Colts did an outstanding job in upgrading their OL to protect Luck. But Reich was just as big an upgrade. They showed a stat last night that Luck went from dead last to top 8 in terms of getting the ball out quickly. 33% of his attempts are out in less than 2 seconds. Nobody is touching you when it comes out that fast. Unfortunately for the Bills, I don't believe Allen has the accuracy to get rid of the ball that quickly, consistently. He is going to need a wall built around him if they are going to run a deep drop back pass offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 We need a Center 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Taking a Guard in the top ten is fine... IF there’s an Alan Faneca type in the draft. Most years there isn’t , and Nelson was hardly a secret. The middle of the Bills OL is very soft, but an OG isn’t in the cards at 9. OT Williams would fill a spot that’s been subpar for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 As a ND fan I knew that Nelson was destined to be an All Pro in the NFL. The guy mauled people for 3 years. I bet he averaged 3 or 4 pancake blocks a game and always held up in pass pro. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Nobody would have batted an eye if he went #1 overall in a draft like this one coming up. When he pulls it's hilarious to watch because usually he's on a LB or safety and they go flying. Has made a huge difference for Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 55 minutes ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said: Cody Ford should at least be in discussion when we pick in round 1 Guy looks like a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, LabattBlue said: Holy crap. Watched him last night. He is a MONSTER. Pencil him in as an All-Pro for the next decade. I guess taking a OG at #6 isn’t such a bad idea. That kind of player doesn’t come around very often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 He was viewed as a generational guard prospect projected to be a Zack Martin type player right out of the gate and Nelson came in and looked the part his rookie year. Given how important each position along the O-line is now and how hard it is to find guards now (It used to be the best guards and centers drafted in the first two rounds were low risk picks not so much anymore) its no longer stupid to draft guards or centers high up. They are premium positions that aren't easily replaceable. Overall I like to see a much hyped rookie guard come in and look the part, the last time guards went high in round one (Cooper and Warmack) they busted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 51 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: Not only did Indy get the player they wanted, but they got 3 extra 2nd rounders from the Jets. They got picks 37 & 49 in 2018 & the Jets #2 this year which will be in the mid 30s of the entire draft to move down 3 slots. Anyone criticizing the Bills for trading up to pick 7 (and getting pick 255 which didn't work out) by moving from 21 giving up Cordy Glenn to get to 12 & then trading picks 12, 53 and 56 should realize that the Bills made a pretty good deal. Looking at the trade up from 12, the Bills moved 5 spots & gave up 2 lower 2nd round picks. The Jets gave up a lot more for Darnold than the Bills gave up for Allen & at this point the 2 are pretty equal. the saddest part is we wouldn't have given up any picks for Mahomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, LabattBlue said: Holy crap. Watched him last night. He is a MONSTER. Pencil him in as an All-Pro for the next decade. I guess taking a OG at #6 isn’t such a bad idea. Indy significantly upgraded their OL since Luck got hurt with Nelson being the crowning piece, the result being that their franchise QB not only has stayed mostly upright but he has played just like he was expected to play when they drafted him but never had because he was always running for his life or hurrying his throws. QBs -- and other players --- can get hurt on almost any play, but having a good OL is about the best insurance policy a team can have. The Bills have 10 draft picks in 2019. If they are serious about developing Allen into a franchise QB and not just using him as an excuse to cover their own incompetence in figuring out how to build a competitive NFL team, they should draft at least 2 OLers, including at least one from Day One or Day Two (rounds 1-3). With the salary cap, teams can't afford to sign more than 1 quality OLer through FA, and top OLers -- if they even hit free agency -- tend to cost only somewhat less than QBs and pass rushers. Consequently, teams need to develop their own young OLers through the draft, so taking a good prospect in rounds 1-3 and another later is a good strategy. Luckily, OL is one unit where it's possible to truly find "diamonds in the rough" on Day 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, WMDman said: I had him rated as the second best player in the draft, if not fr the QBs he would have got picked alot higher He’s not. No matter how good of a guard he is or will be, even the best ever, he is one in five on a unit. I see at least 3 QB’s, and probably 5, that will have a much bigger impact than he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Holy crap. Watched him last night. He is a MONSTER. Pencil him in as an All-Pro for the next decade. I guess taking a OG at #6 isn’t such a bad idea. I think they also took their starting RT in the second round as well - but might be slightly off-base there, just remembering from the commentary in last night's broadcast. Either way, goes to show that if you would like to see your offense improve at every level in one year, invest in the OL. Offensive success begins, and in a lot of cases this year, can stop right there. One of the larger reasons for Shady's regression this year was a lack of Wood and Incognito pulling for his running style. If we revamp successfully I would expect him to bounce back more next year, within reasonable context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said: He’s not. No matter how good of a guard he is or will be, even the best ever, he is one in five on a unit. I see at least 3 QB’s, and probably 5, that will have a much bigger impact than he will. Mayfield and who??? i think there is a better chance that 4 out of the 5 qb’s drafted in the 1st round last year end up as nothing special(Mayfield being the exception) compared to Nelson who after 1 season appears to be very special...and should receive a lot of consideration for offensive RotY. Really early, but you are possibly looking at a HoF guard. Which of the 5 QB’s can you say that about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, RyanC883 said: I agree, some great options in round 2-3. Whoever we get, at whatever position, needs to be a disruptor that other teams need to plan around. Allen is turning into that. You pick top 15, that's what you need. I think by the time we pick, the "disruptors" remaining will be either CB, WR, DL. I see us addressing the OL in FA, IMO. Too important to hope for a rookie to get it. What solid LT is available in FA? We go that route and you end up with Newhouse and Bodine. Bills need to get young and talented on that line, not one year stop gaps. Now is the time to sell out and improve instead of putting it off for another rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Holy crap. Watched him last night. He is a MONSTER. Pencil him in as an All-Pro for the next decade. I guess taking a OG at #6 isn’t such a bad idea. Because the Colts have Luck, yes I agree. But taking an Offensive linemen that high without a franchise QB would be foolish, IMO. So, now with the Bills having Allen - yes, taking an Offensive lineman that high in the Draft, presuming it's warranted and not a reach, I'm good with it. At #9, I don't know anyone outside of Williams is worth that kind of Draft capital - but I haven't even started getting a good hold on the Draft eligible players. So, someone else I'm sure knows much better than I do. That said, I would expect the Bills to do something similar in terms of going all in on landing supporting talent for Josh on both the line and in terms of playmakers. I'm not one the guy who thinks you need a true #1 WR if the other WRs / TEs / RBs can all play well because we've seen in recent years where the teams that win, take this model. They get WRs who are 2s and 3s all over the field but put them in the right spot. Robert Foster and Zay Jones come to mind. Get two more like those two, and you're in good shape, regardless of who's #1 or #2 or #3, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Holy crap. Watched him last night. He is a MONSTER. Pencil him in as an All-Pro for the next decade. I guess taking a OG at #6 isn’t such a bad idea. If we didn't need Allen i really wanted this kid. Also shows why we should take a RT at 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) If you get it right. Although I assume LG-RTs in the top 10 should be pretty close to sure things. I'd love a pick that lands anywhere from LG-RT so long as it's perennial All-Pro.. these guys better be a sure thing. If we're not getting the next D'Brickashaw Ferguson I'd punt down. Edited December 31, 2018 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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