YoloinOhio Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: ....so what is your forecasted tariff BEFORE the "let's bring him in" threads flood TBD??.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Ravens bring back Tyrod as lamar’s backup next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Jax makes a lot of sense. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, MDH said: Jax makes a lot of sense. If it’s a trade I don’t think their cap situation would accommodate him but not sure what the dead cap is for Bortles of cut Edited December 16, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, MDH said: Jax makes a lot of sense. I think this is the best case scenario for both Jacksonville and Flacco if it is doable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Cap hit is 26 million next year, 28 million in 2020. So the obvious landing spots would probably be precluded by the salary cap unless he seriously renegotiates. If I'm him ... why would I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Ravens bring back Tyrod as lamar’s backup next year ...LMAO......then they can fire Harbaugh and steal Hugh from the Bungles for a reunion......I sure as hell hope the Jackson kid is a lot smarter than he sounds in his pressers.....was having Leodis flashbacks...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: If it’s a trade I don’t think their cap situation would accommodate him but not sure what the dead cap is for Bortles of cut I don’t think it’ll be a trade. Nobody is giving up much, if anything, for a past his prime QB with that contract. The Ravens will end up cutting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Ravens bring back Tyrod as lamar’s backup next year Griffin is on the roster. It is a good situation for the organization because they can have an offense geared to both players. Griffin is not going to be sought out by any other team to be a starter. So the wise move is to stay with the Ravens and if Jackson gets hurt or struggles he would be the next man up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Cap hit is 26 million next year, 28 million in 2020. So the obvious landing spots would probably be precluded by the salary cap unless he seriously renegotiates. If I'm him ... why would I? Yeah the jags currently have negative cap space for next year as it stands currently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Raven's fans are going to be sad. Jackson is never going to a top end NFL QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Yeah the jags currently have negative cap space for next year as it stands currently Dareus is the gift that keeps on giving, even when re-gifted! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueandRed Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I see him in Denver next year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Maybe Denver. They seem to kick the tires on a new QB every year. With Joseph gone, maybe the new coach doesn't care for Keenum's schtick. 1 minute ago, BlueandRed said: I see him in Denver next year... Beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, MDH said: I don’t think it’ll be a trade. Nobody is giving up much, if anything, for a past his prime QB with that contract. The Ravens will end up cutting him. Yeah can't see anyone taking on that contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, BlueandRed said: I see him in Denver next year... Denver would be obvious ... but that's why the Case Keenum contract is a killer. $10 million dead cap hit if they cut him, something like $18 million if he's on the roster. I just don't think they can do it. Meanwhile, Jax - I just noticed they can cut ties with Dareus for about a $5 million dead cap hit. Bye-bye, Marcell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Yeah can't see anyone taking on that contract. ...they keep him around until 2020 for a less painful "out"...no one takes on his remaining $62 mil for 2019-2021 unless a GM doesn't value his job...... Potential Out: 2020, 4 yr, $80,500,000; $8,000,000 dead cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, MDH said: Jax makes a lot of sense. I was trying to place him somewhere, and your right, this does make the most sense. Allows Jax to also draft a rookie to learn from Flacco in Rd. 2 or something. Flacco would have a TON of weapons in Jax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...they keep him around until 2020 for a less painful "out"...no one takes on his remaining $62 mil for 2019-2021 unless a GM doesn't value his job...... Potential Out: 2020, 4 yr, $80,500,000; $8,000,000 dead cap Agree, Yeah think they either keep him or cut him but don't see another team picking up the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: Raven's fans are going to be sad. Jackson is never going to a top end NFL QB. He’s the kind of QB who has a little success early but unless he tranforms his game dramatically won’t have sustained success. Thats the nature of the running QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Washington ... depending on the severity of Alex Smith's injury. NY Giants ... For some reason I see Eli Manning joining up with Tom Coughlin in Jax ... The Giants would need a starter until their first round draft pick is ready. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, MDH said: He’s the kind of QB who has a little success early but unless he tranforms his game dramatically won’t have sustained success. Thats the nature of the running QB. Not always. Russell Wilson is a running QB. So is Cam Newton. Both have been very successful. Jackson just doesn't have anywhere near their talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, JohnC said: Griffin is on the roster. It is a good situation for the organization because they can have an offense geared to both players. Griffin is not going to be sought out by any other team to be a starter. So the wise move is to stay with the Ravens and if Jackson gets hurt or struggles he would be the next man up. I think TT is a better backup than RG3, and he has experience with Greg Roman who is in their coaching staff. RG3 is a fringe level backup and TT is a fringe level starter, given lamar’s playing style being high risk for injury I would think that they want someone solid back there. 13 minutes ago, Azucho98 said: Washington I was going to mention that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 26 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: If it’s a trade I don’t think their cap situation would accommodate him but not sure what the dead cap is for Bortles of cut Bortles just re-signed and has a 16.5 million dead hit next year. JAX is really hurting next year. MD is probably gone. JAX also a good team to sign FAs from! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Agree, Yeah think they either keep him or cut him but don't see another team picking up the contract. ...cap hit is a choker..... Year Age Base Salary Signing Option Cap Hit Dead Cap Yearly Cash 2016 31 $4,000,000 $13,800,000 $4,750,000 $22,550,000 $69,850,000 $29,000,000($29,000,000) 2017 32 $6,000,000 $13,800,000 $4,750,000 $24,550,000 $53,300,000 $21,000,000($50,000,000) 2018 33 $12,000,000 $8,000,000 $4,750,000 $24,750,000 $40,750,000 $12,000,000($62,000,000) 2019 34 $18,500,000 $8,000,000 - $26,500,000 $16,000,000 $18,500,000($80,500,000) Potential Out: 2020, 4 yr, $80,500,000; $8,000,000 dead cap 2020 35 $20,250,000 $8,000,000 - $28,250,000 $8,000,000 $20,250,000($100,750,000) 2021 36 $24,250,000 - - $24,250,000 - $24,250,000($125,000,000) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 The Redskins and Jaguars make the most sense Denver seems to like trying out a new QB every season, but they've already got a bunch invested in Keenum The Saints or Giants maybe, if Brees or Manning retires My darkhorse is Miami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Ravens bring back Tyrod as lamar’s backup next year I think they stick with RGIII I would think Giants if Eli is gone. Jacksonville and Washington if he will play for cheap cause they may have problems paying what they owe on Bortles and Smith (if Smith will count against the cap). If the Giants keep Eli, I wonder if they go for Foles and give him a guarantee that he takes over after Eli. Edited December 16, 2018 by apuszczalowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: Cap hit is 26 million next year, 28 million in 2020. So the obvious landing spots would probably be precluded by the salary cap unless he seriously renegotiates. If I'm him ... why would I? Nope- you are counting his signing bonus on that. Actually is 18 and 20. which isn’t crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ganesh Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) The Washington Redskins may need a QB if Alex Smith does not recover from the gruesome injury The other options would be Denver. Edited December 16, 2018 by ganesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I say he and Harbaugh end up in Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 33 minutes ago, /dev/null said: The Redskins and Jaguars make the most sense Denver seems to like trying out a new QB every season, but they've already got a bunch invested in Keenum The Saints or Giants maybe, if Brees or Manning retires My darkhorse is Miami I think saints like bridgewater in that scenario miami, was my curveball. If going off script maybe Big Ben retires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 54 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: Not always. Russell Wilson is a running QB. So is Cam Newton. Both have been very successful. Jackson just doesn't have anywhere near their talent. Isn't it too early to judge a rookie QB? I mean that's all I read on here basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 52 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think TT is a better backup than RG3, and he has experience with Greg Roman who is in their coaching staff. RG3 is a fringe level backup and TT is a fringe level starter, given lamar’s playing style being high risk for injury I would think that they want someone solid back there. I was going to mention that one I thought Washington but they are really stuck with Smith 2 more years. They are in purgatory for a minute it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobs0108 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I think the Giants would be a good place for him if they are willing to move on from Eli and draft a QB of the future to sit for two years and learn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenigmusx Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 The New York Football Giants! 44 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I thought Washington but they are really stuck with Smith 2 more years. They are in purgatory for a minute it seems. I saw somewhere that Alex Smith could be an injury settlement and the Skins might make a play for Rodgers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Washington or Oakland is my guess Or....Jacksonville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Ravens bring back Tyrod as lamar’s backup next year The Ravens are an intelligent franchise...so i would be surprised 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...cap hit is a choker..... Year Age Base Salary Signing Option Cap Hit Dead Cap Yearly Cash 2016 31 $4,000,000 $13,800,000 $4,750,000 $22,550,000 $69,850,000 $29,000,000($29,000,000) 2017 32 $6,000,000 $13,800,000 $4,750,000 $24,550,000 $53,300,000 $21,000,000($50,000,000) 2018 33 $12,000,000 $8,000,000 $4,750,000 $24,750,000 $40,750,000 $12,000,000($62,000,000) 2019 34 $18,500,000 $8,000,000 - $26,500,000 $16,000,000 $18,500,000($80,500,000) Potential Out: 2020, 4 yr, $80,500,000; $8,000,000 dead cap 2020 35 $20,250,000 $8,000,000 - $28,250,000 $8,000,000 $20,250,000($100,750,000) 2021 36 $24,250,000 - - $24,250,000 - $24,250,000($125,000,000) wow--i thought he was much older. Maybe cuz he moves so slow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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