Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 This season has been a mixed bag of emotions. A few ups, a bunch of downs and alot of learning. Young players learning the pro game and fans learning about what the future might look like. If this season was a true rebuild, it would certainly be nice to feel like we found a few pieces moving forward. Out of learning and development comes a lot of losing. It also shines light on potential and gives you a feel for who has what we need. Out of the current Bills on the roster, which ones will be starting for us week 1 in 2019? (You can count the 3rd WR as “starting” considering most packages contain the slot WR nowadays) I will say Allen: Not much of a chance this changes Demarco: He’s out there doing some stuff. Probably will use him again next year. Zay Jones: Potentially moves to the slot with the additions of outside presence at WR Foster: What he has done over the last 5 games can’t be ignored. Especially with the current QB situation. I feel like Foster will be a #2 WR on the outside going into next season. Dawkins: Possibly move to RT if we draft a Tackle early Teller: These guys love their own draft picks and he played decent when inserted Bodine: I feel like the Bills will bring in a young Guard and a Tackle. And they won’t want to overhaul 3/5 of the existing Oline. Also Bodine was acceptable and is the guy that this regime brought in. From day 1, there has been an overly obvious mission to purge every player from the previous regime. I think they keep the 3 guys they brought in and move on from the rest. After that I think every starter might be different. I think there is a chance the starting RB is on the roster but I’m not sure how good that chance is. Shady might get the benefit of the doubt for the first few weeks next year but I think the Bills might just end it. I also think there is a very small chance that Ford could turn into our starting RB but we have to see him get a shot in these last 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 DiMarco sucks Allen, Dawkins (maybe LT or maybe OG), Teller, Zay (slot), Foster (2nd WR) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: DiMarco sucks Allen, Dawkins (maybe LT or maybe OG), Teller, Zay (slot), Foster (2nd WR) ? Wow! Unusually harsh, #47. DiMarco was a stud for Atlanta and they didn’t want him to go. They crashed to earth after their SB as Matty Ice was crushed all year. IMO, he’s our best pass blocker from the backfield. Yes, he ‘sucks’ carrying the rock, but he wasn’t brought here for that. Has he dropped any passes? On a historically bad pass dropping team, a guy who can catch out of the backfield is Gold. Anywho, I agree with the OP that everyone else should be upgraded in this most anticipated coming offseason. $100M & 10 Draft Picks? #HolidayChubby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chosenone Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 QB: Josh Allen RB: LeSean McCoy WR (Slot): Zay Jones LT: Dion Dawkins LG: Wyatt Teller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Chosenone said: QB: Josh Allen RB: LeSean McCoy WR (Slot): Zay Jones LT: Dion Dawkins LG: Wyatt Teller Maybe McCoy and Jones is going to have to compete with Foster for WR3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 I can go either way on Shady because he is still my favorite player. I hope this year was something dumb and he comes back and is good again. I just think the Bills are going to have a short hook here with the off field stuff, the 30 year old wall and the trade deadline rumors. Maybe Shady gets to evolve into a late 90s Thurman role and can still be “starting” He certainly has value in other areas I’m just not sure the Bills will be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriftygamer83 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 The offensive line will have a year of maturity to it. Hard telling where they will be next year. Could pass on guys who just needed that year. Juan Castillo has an eye for the offensive line and knows how to motivate his players. My guess is next year will make a difference in what he gets out of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: ? Wow! Unusually harsh, #47. DiMarco was a stud for Atlanta and they didn’t want him to go. They crashed to earth after their SB.IMO, he’s our best pass blocker from the backfield. Yes, he ‘sucks’ carrying the rock, but he wasn’t brought here for that. Has he dropped any passes? On a historically bad pass dropping team, a guy who can catch out of the backfield is Gold. Anywho, I agree with the OP that everyone else should be upgraded in this most anticipated coming offseason. $100M & 10 Draft Picks? #HolidayChubby! He hasn’t dropped any passes (besides the 1st Peterman pick). He hasn’t caught any either. He has 3 more catches than me this year. Our running game has steadily declined since he got here and our pass protection is trash. How is he helping? Ha ha, I know it’s harsh but it was a TERRIBLE signing for the money and he hasn’t improved the team at all. He was just a mistake and there is no reason to waste a roster spot on that guy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: He hasn’t dropped any passes (besides the 1st Peterman pick). He hasn’t caught any either. He has 3 more catches than me this year. Our running game has steadily declined since he got here and our pass protection is trash. How is he helping? Ha ha, I know it’s harsh but it was a TERRIBLE signing for the money and he hasn’t improved the team at all. He was just a mistake and there is no reason to waste a roster spot on that guy. ? OK, kick him to the curb along with ALL the other Offense players not named. Let’s take this $100LARGE out for a spin! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 I think the player with the most to gain or lose over this last 3 game stretch is Foster. One good game is a fluke. Two can be just benefiting from circumstances. He has now had 3 really good games in the last 5 weeks. If Foster can go out and put up a couple more 100yd games in these last 3 weeks, he’s going to start. I’m not sure if he is actually good or not yet, but I am really interested in where this goes. If Foster goes away and does nothing over these last 3 weeks, we will probably see him on the backend of the roster next season. If he is having 5+ catches for 90+ yards in these last few games, then I think Foster becomes our go to WR heading into the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I haven't really heard much about Mills' play this season. Is it possible that he remains as a serviceable RT or is he so god awful that he needs to go? I still think the FO goes hard for a new center if the Panthers' blueprint is any indication of how much they value the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Allen Zay Jones Foster Dawkins Teller That’s it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Capco said: I haven't really heard much about Mills' play this season. Is it possible that he remains as a serviceable RT or is he so god awful that he needs to go? I still think the FO goes hard for a new center if the Panthers' blueprint is any indication of how much they value the position. I would figure the Bills go after a cornerstone LT early in the draft and kick Dawkins to RT. I don’t think Mills is that bad I just think these guys in charge want 53 players that they brought here. It’s felt to me from day 1 that: Beane and Mcd would rather lose with their own guys then win with someone else’s. Which is very upsetting. The Whaley guys were probably the biggest reason we made it last year but they have been systematically squeezed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 I have a strange feeling that if Ford gets a look, he might be a player. Absolutely no concrete reason, pure gut. He looked pretty solid in preseason and he will have fresh legs. If the Bills kept him on the PS all year he must have shown them something. I would love to see him start and play the majority of the game tomorrow. Get 20+ carries and see what he looks like. He is giving me a Travis Henry vibe but again, it’s purely gut here. No real reasoning behind it. Probably just hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddiegoofball Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 For sure: Allen Maybe: Dawkins, Teller, Foster, Jones, McCoy It's obvious there's gonna be a lot of turnover on the offensive side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: This season has been a mixed bag of emotions. A few ups, a bunch of downs and alot of learning. Young players learning the pro game and fans learning about what the future might look like. If this season was a true rebuild, it would certainly be nice to feel like we found a few pieces moving forward. Out of learning and development comes a lot of losing. It also shines light on potential and gives you a feel for who has what we need. Out of the current Bills on the roster, which ones will be starting for us week 1 in 2019? (You can count the 3rd WR as “starting” considering most packages contain the slot WR nowadays) I will say Allen: Not much of a chance this changes Demarco: He’s out there doing some stuff. Probably will use him again next year. Zay Jones: Potentially moves to the slot with the additions of outside presence at WR Foster: What he has done over the last 5 games can’t be ignored. Especially with the current QB situation. I feel like Foster will be a #2 WR on the outside going into next season. Dawkins: Possibly move to RT if we draft a Tackle early Teller: These guys love their own draft picks and he played decent when inserted Bodine: I feel like the Bills will bring in a young Guard and a Tackle. And they won’t want to overhaul 3/5 of the existing Oline. Also Bodine was acceptable and is the guy that this regime brought in. From day 1, there has been an overly obvious mission to purge every player from the previous regime. I think they keep the 3 guys they brought in and move on from the rest. After that I think every starter might be different. I think there is a chance the starting RB is on the roster but I’m not sure how good that chance is. Shady might get the benefit of the doubt for the first few weeks next year but I think the Bills might just end it. I also think there is a very small chance that Ford could turn into our starting RB but we have to see him get a shot in these last 3 weeks. I don’t disagree with most choices, but a number of analysts are picking us to take the RT for Alabama who is a plug and play. They could move him LT, or Dawkins keeps developing on the left. We also need Guards badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Allen is literally the only guarantee. We could see a ton of offensive changes this offseason, and we probably should and will. But I think Dawkins and Teller are also likely starters. Foster has leapfrogged Zay at WR, and I still think he's probably our #2. I also do think Shady's back for one more year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 McKenzie will be on this team next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Kirby, now don’t you feel bad about your ‘discouraging word where the Buffalo roam’? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: This season has been a mixed bag of emotions. A few ups, a bunch of downs and alot of learning. Young players learning the pro game and fans learning about what the future might look like. If this season was a true rebuild, it would certainly be nice to feel like we found a few pieces moving forward. Out of learning and development comes a lot of losing. It also shines light on potential and gives you a feel for who has what we need. Out of the current Bills on the roster, which ones will be starting for us week 1 in 2019? (You can count the 3rd WR as “starting” considering most packages contain the slot WR nowadays) I will say Allen: Not much of a chance this changes Demarco: He’s out there doing some stuff. Probably will use him again next year. Zay Jones: Potentially moves to the slot with the additions of outside presence at WR Foster: What he has done over the last 5 games can’t be ignored. Especially with the current QB situation. I feel like Foster will be a #2 WR on the outside going into next season. Dawkins: Possibly move to RT if we draft a Tackle early Teller: These guys love their own draft picks and he played decent when inserted Bodine: I feel like the Bills will bring in a young Guard and a Tackle. And they won’t want to overhaul 3/5 of the existing Oline. Also Bodine was acceptable and is the guy that this regime brought in. From day 1, there has been an overly obvious mission to purge every player from the previous regime. I think they keep the 3 guys they brought in and move on from the rest. I think this list is as good as any with the caveat that I think McCoy will be the starting TB in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: I think this list is as good as any with the caveat that I think McCoy will be the starting TB in 2019. Half of me thinks Mccoy gets the first month of next year to prove this year was the Olines fault. And half of me thinks the Bills wish they pulled off a trade at the deadline and they go young at RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Bodine is backup caliber at best, I can see why CIN wasn’t too upset about letting him go. As a starter, he’s the type of player that you are always looking to replace. He’s better than Groy as a backup, but that’s about it. The Bills need to be able to protect the middle of the pocket so Allen can climb it and make plays. If they don’t fix this weakness, he’ll be taking off running far too often. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Suprised McKenzie is not getting any love in this thread Or is it we expect him on the team but would be a situational player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Suprised McKenzie is not getting any love in this thread Or is it we expect him on the team but would be a situational player I think he will be on the team but not be one of the top WRs to see playing time. If he shows up a little more in the passing game here the last 3 games, maybe. I think we bring in at least 1 stud outside WR. Then we have Zay (who they gave up some important assets for) and Foster. That doesnt leave a lot of room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaT Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Bodine is backup caliber at best, I can see why CIN wasn’t too upset about letting him go. As a starter, he’s the type of player that you are always looking to replace. He’s better than Groy as a backup, but that’s about it. The Bills need to be able to protect the middle of the pocket so Allen can climb it and make plays. If they don’t fix this weakness, he’ll be taking off running far too often. Totally agree! I see center as in crying need of an upgrade. For me, Allen, Foster, Croom and McKenzie (in packages but perhaps not as the 1st guy out there), Dawkins, Jones and maybe Teller. I think guards are going to be brought in and it will be a fight for Teller to see the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I think he will be on the team but not be one of the top WRs to see playing time. If he shows up a little more in the passing game here the last 3 games, maybe. I think we bring in at least 1 stud outside WR. Then we have Zay (who they gave up some important assets for) and Foster. That doesnt leave a lot of room. I know this might not be a popular opinion.....but I think McKenzie is def creeping up on Zay Jones for that slot receiver position...... I dont like it when draft picks dont work out either....the fact is McKenzie makes more plays and is more flexible for the offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I would figure the Bills go after a cornerstone LT early in the draft and kick Dawkins to RT. I don’t think Mills is that bad I just think these guys in charge want 53 players that they brought here. It’s felt to me from day 1 that: Beane and Mcd would rather lose with their own guys then win with someone else’s. Which is very upsetting. The Whaley guys were probably the biggest reason we made it last year but they have been systematically squeezed out. Iirc Dawkins did not play well on the right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: DiMarco sucks Allen, Dawkins (maybe LT or maybe OG), Teller, Zay (slot), Foster (2nd WR) Sounds about right. 4 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Iirc Dawkins did not play well on the right side. He’s not playing well on the left side either. Should be a guard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 32 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I know this might not be a popular opinion.....but I think McKenzie is def creeping up on Zay Jones for that slot receiver position...... I dont like it when draft picks dont work out either....the fact is McKenzie makes more plays and is more flexible for the offense McKenzie is an OW. Our WRs will be rotated and moved around to maximize their skill setd I believe. They may not break the bank on a WR(I hope they do or Draft a really good one). I tend to look at what NE has done over the years, I do realize Allen has a stronger arm than Brady. Outside of Moss they really havent had many HOF ouside recieving threats that were significant in their O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 Just now, formerlyofCtown said: McKenzie is an OW. Our WRs will be rotated and moved around to maximize their skill setd I believe. They may not break the bank on a WR(I hope they do or Draft a really good one). I tend to look at what NE has done over the years, I do realize Allen has a stronger arm than Brady. Outside of Moss they really havent had many HOF ouside recieving threats that were significant in their O. The patriots have turned guys into superstars like Welker and Edelman. And while they don’t have a long list of big time outside WRs, they still always try to have big time WRs. A lot of guys have gone there and not worked out but they still bring them in. Chad johnson, Cooks, Amendola, Gordon etc They make an effort to have big time WRs it just doesn’t always fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: Sounds about right. He’s not playing well on the left side either. Should be a guard Hes played really well at times and not so well other times. I believe he will get another year at LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) Allen Dawkins Jones and Foster to start the season but rookie draft pick will get equal reps McCoy Sadly, either Mills or Bodine Croom will be on the team but not as the starter Teller has a chance but he has been moatly terrible so far as a rookie. Just depends where they go in FA Edited December 15, 2018 by Dadonkadonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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formerlyofCtown Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: The patriots have turned guys into superstars like Welker and Edelman. And while they don’t have a long list of big time outside WRs, they still always try to have big time WRs. A lot of guys have gone there and not worked out but they still bring them in. Chad johnson, Cooks, Amendola, Gordon etc They make an effort to have big time WRs it just doesn’t always fit Amendola, Welker, and Edelman are the type WR required for the E/P Offense. Zay and McKenzie fit this mould I believe. The Moss and Gordon types arent necessary. Good TEs and pass catching RBs are important as well. Allen has a much stronger arm though. It is important that we get a reliable TE and another good WR. Allen really has to learn to pass with touch as the majority of this offense is quick timing routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Every position other than QB on the starting offense is a position of need and backup QB is also an important need. Actually, it feels pretty good to type that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 10 hours ago, Thriftygamer83 said: The offensive line will have a year of maturity to it. Hard telling where they will be next year. Could pass on guys who just needed that year. Juan Castillo has an eye for the offensive line and knows how to motivate his players. My guess is next year will make a difference in what he gets out of them. There's nothing mature about this very offensive line. That's why with a very few exceptions, they should mostly be gone by next season. 10 hours ago, Capco said: I haven't really heard much about Mills' play this season. Is it possible that he remains as a serviceable RT or is he so god awful that he needs to go? I still think the FO goes hard for a new center if the Panthers' blueprint is any indication of how much they value the position. Watch Mills on passing downs. He's still a well oiled turnstile. When he goes, that's a sign the OL is finally progressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 That RB job is there for whoever wants to step up and take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 11 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: DiMarco sucks Allen, Dawkins (maybe LT or maybe OG), Teller, Zay (slot), Foster (2nd WR) and McKenzie will def be a big part of the offense in a variety of roles. If we can add a legit #1 , i really like #1,Zay,Foster,McKenzie. Most important thing is solidifying the OL though and Beane set this roster up to have a ton of flexibility in what will be the most important off season in the last 20 years, because it can set us up to be legit contenders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 If we are taking starters, I think there are only 2 guarantees: Allen Dawkins I think there’s a decent chance these players either start or get a lot of time: Teller Jones Foster I see these players getting situational plays. They’ll stay on the team but probably not considered for starting roles: McKenzie Croom Bodine McDermott Ivory The rest of the players are up in the air. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 QB Josh Allen, RB LeSean McCoy, TE Jason Croom, WR Zay Jones, WR Robert Foster, OT Dawkins, OT Mills, OG Teller, OT Mills, C Bodine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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