Any WRs via high draft pick or FA in this off-season that give us a bonafide #1?

[Bing Bong]

That's my ultimate priority I want to see this off-season. I know we have the money and likely a decent draft position. I'd take an elite pass rusher if it's there for the taking and no great WR or OL is available but I want a stud WR and OL, OL, OL, OL.

 

I have no idea if there's that guy in the top 10 in the draft. Don't want to reach for a Ted Ginn type if this draft is weak. And if Tyrell Williams is available (I keep hearing him come up), he's a solid get we should go after but that's not enough IMO.

 

Who's the best guy in the draft ? Who's the best guy likely available in FA? That's essentially my question.

Edited December 12, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks

[Rocky Landing]

I agree with the sentiment. 

 

I would not be disappointed if we drafted high for other positions of need if that’s BOPA, but I hope we don’t go too high on defense.

 

As this season wraps up, I think the highest priority has to be providing Allen with all the tools he needs to be successful. I’ve never been a fan of drafting based on need, but this coming offseason is different. We’ve established that Allen is the prospective future. We have to go forward in that regard. 

[White Linen]

Josh Gordon

[Bing Bong]

I'm reading DK Metcalf.. but as a reach at the position we'd currently draft at. Not that I mind it so long as he's not a Heyward Bey or Ted Ginn type reach. Really wouldn't want to blow that pick like that.

11 minutes ago, White Linen said:

Josh Gordon

Shannon Sharpe says he plays with a piano on his back ?.

 

But no i'd love it. Have a hard time seeing McDermott go for it but seems like a good fit for Allen . I wouldn't bank on him being my no. 1 however. Really looking for a stud here.

11 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

I agree with the sentiment. 

 

I would not be disappointed if we drafted high for other positions of need if that’s BOPA, but I hope we don’t go too high on defense.

 

As this season wraps up, I think the highest priority has to be providing Allen with all the tools he needs to be successful. I’ve never been a fan of drafting based on need, but this coming offseason is different. We’ve established that Allen is the prospective future. We have to go forward in that regard. 

I think our need for literally every offensive position other than Quarterback gives us leeway for BPA regardless. Ideally WR but whatever. Any position on offense.

 

Unfortunate that it's stacked on D but if there's no WR (which is really what I want to know) I think a trade down for as many OL first round grades as possible is gravy as well.

 

I'd still take a Mike Evans caliber WR if such exists with a high pick.

Edited December 12, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks

[Red Squirrel]

I've been following Arizona State since 1995 and N'Keal Harry is the first Sun Devil I've rooted for the Bills to use a 1st rd pick on in all that time. The draft experts have him going late 1st; I haven't heard a straight answer about what they are dinging him for, but I suspect it is raw speed. If he runs faster than expected at the combine, everyone will probably like him a lot more. He is 6'4" and near 220; he makes contested catches; he is a strong runner after the catch; he was effective returning punts. He seems like a decent kid and teammate. The best comparison to a Bills player I could make is he's like a bigger version of Moulds. 

 

[BuffaloButt]

1 hour ago, Red Squirrel said:

I've been following Arizona State since 1995 and N'Keal Harry is the first Sun Devil I've rooted for the Bills to use a 1st rd pick on in all that time. The draft experts have him going late 1st; I haven't heard a straight answer about what they are dinging him for, but I suspect it is raw speed. If he runs faster than expected at the combine, everyone will probably like him a lot more. He is 6'4" and near 220; he makes contested catches; he is a strong runner after the catch; he was effective returning punts. He seems like a decent kid and teammate. The best comparison to a Bills player I could make is he's like a bigger version of Moulds. 

 

Good assessment, but some draft experts have him going in the top 5.  I need top see more film on him to verify if he is indeed a top 5 and potential top pick for the Bills.  Dude had looked good in some game I've seen. 

[Victory Formation]

I'm hoping we go NKeal Harry or Marquise Brown in either a trade down from #6 or with our 2nd. Anthony Johnson from Buffalo in RD2 would also be a nice consolation prize if we miss out on Harry or Brown. Follow up with Parris Campbell with our first RD4 pick. Worst case scenario is we walk away with Johnson and Campbell and I'm damn cool with that. I think Johnson from Buffalo would beat out Zay eventually for that #1 job. A guy like Campbell would be a nice #3 with potential to grow. Either way I don't think RD1 has to be WR. RD2 though definitely.

[Captain Murica]

Sign Tyrell Williams in FA, only 26 with speed and has size at 6’4” and draft either Metcalf or Brown imo. 

Edited December 12, 2018 by Captain Murica

[LeGOATski]

3 hours ago, Red Squirrel said:

I've been following Arizona State since 1995 and N'Keal Harry is the first Sun Devil I've rooted for the Bills to use a 1st rd pick on in all that time. The draft experts have him going late 1st; I haven't heard a straight answer about what they are dinging him for, but I suspect it is raw speed. If he runs faster than expected at the combine, everyone will probably like him a lot more. He is 6'4" and near 220; he makes contested catches; he is a strong runner after the catch; he was effective returning punts. He seems like a decent kid and teammate. The best comparison to a Bills player I could make is he's like a bigger version of Moulds. 

 

He's awesome. 

 

I liken him to Anquan Boldin.

[Samwell Tarly]

Not a big fan of trading down here...the Bills could use elite talent on D as well, but I understand the urgency on offense.  Perhaps free agency would be the place to get some o-line or wr help if its just not there in round 1.  I know we need oranges, but if the apples are in season, pick apples, not substandard oranges. Unless someone gives you a crazy good offer for your pick.

[Victory Formation]

5 minutes ago, Jigsaw2112 said:

Not a big fan of trading down here...the Bills could use elite talent on D as well, but I understand the urgency on offense.  Perhaps free agency would be the place to get some o-line or wr help if its just not there in round 1.  I know we need oranges, but if the apples are in season, pick apples, not substandard oranges. Unless someone gives you a crazy good offer for your pick.

If we stay put give me one of the DTs, either of the top 3 will do. Ed Oliver RD1 followed by Anthony Johnson RD2. The key is we need to sign 3 FA OL otherwise BPA is impossible.

[billsbackto81]

1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

He's awesome. 

 

I liken him to Anquan Boldin.

Kid is truly a beast. Physical, fast, great elusiveness and swats defenders away like gnats.

[billsredneck1]

assuming bosa and oliver are gone, i'd look to trade down a bit and get the best available tackle.  i'd get john brown wr in fa and draft johnson in the 2nd.

[HOUSE]

Can we find one that can catch the ball? This would really help

Thank you

 

 

 

Edited December 12, 2018 by HOUSE

[H2o]

I am with the trade down crowd. Pick up extra picks and land around #13-18. At that spot I would take Parris Campbell from Ohio St. He reminds me of OBJ in a couple of ways. Body type and he has the ability to take any catch he makes to the house. He has ELITE speed to go with that shiftiness you look for in guys who can work the middle of the field. 

[Teddy KGB]

K’neal All day 

[Victory Formation]

46 minutes ago, H2o said:

I am with the trade down crowd. Pick up extra picks and land around #13-18. At that spot I would take Parris Campbell from Ohio St. He reminds me of OBJ in a couple of ways. Body type and he has the ability to take any catch he makes to the house. He has ELITE speed to go with that shiftiness you look for in guys who can work the middle of the field. 

Everywhere I've looked he's a 4th round prospect. Could rise though.

[SoCal Deek]

Draft Harry! If he’s slotted down a few picks then by all means trade down a few picks. But don’t pass up the chance to get a truly dominant WR! The Bills already have Foster to stretch the field on the other side and want Zay to be that slot guy. They need a big body kid with heart and hands. Harry appears to be that guy. Don’t get cute and mess this up!

[Tatonka68]

2 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

Kid is truly a beast. Physical, fast, great elusiveness and swats defenders away like gnats.

Kelvin Benjamin 2.0. I am over these type of players they never pan out. 

[MrEpsYtown]

I've said it a few times, but my guy is Chris Conley. Tyrell Williams would be a great get, but I like Conley a bit better. I think he is ready to break out. 4.35 forty time on a big strong frame. I think he has #1 upside and I think Conley, Foster, Zay, and McKenzie make for a nice speedy group with some variety in skills. He developed under David Culley and is a process guy 100%. He's made big plays when called upon but really lie a 5th option. I think he is the perfect addition to this squad. Is he a true #1? No, but he has true #1 upside. 

 

No more primadonna "I need touches" type receivers. That is a humble group of hard workers. 

[mannc]

5 hours ago, BuffaloButt said:

Good assessment, but some draft experts have him going in the top 5.  I need top see more film on him to verify if he is indeed a top 5 and potential top pick for the Bills.  Dude had looked good in some game I've seen. 

It would not surprise me to see at least two WR going in the top 10.  In 2017, everyone thought the Bills would have their pick of the top 3 WR in the draft, but all three were gone before the 10th pick.  Teams are recognizing how important the position is—second only to QB.

Edited December 12, 2018 by mannc

[DCOrange]

There's almost certainly no #1 WR available via free agency (unless someone is released that we aren't talking about yet). Guys like Quincy Enunwa, Chris Conley, Tyrell Williams, and Adam Humphries are worth pursuing IMO, but none of them appear to be #1 caliber receivers.

 

It seems like the only guy really worth considering in the top 10 of the draft is DK Metcalf, but if it were me personally, I'd just wait until the 2nd-4th round and probably take two guys in that range rather than spending a 1st round pick on a WR; this class is absurdly deep and the guys you can draft in the 2nd-4th are probably just as likely to become good WRs as anyone you'd take in the first round. My personal favorites in that range are N'Keal Harry (if he falls to the 2nd), Deebo Samuel, and Collin Johnson.

[Pete]

2 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

Kid is truly a beast. Physical, fast, great elusiveness and swats defenders away like gnats.

Harry is a beast.  I am a-ok with drafting Harry in 1st.  There is a great chance he is first WR off board, and goes top 10.  And he is a great returner.  Our weak ass special teams could use his return skills.  When was the last time a Bills returner took it to the house?

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

5 hours ago, Captain Murica said:

Sign Tyrell Williams in FA, only 26 with speed and has size at 6’4” and draft either Metcalf or Brown imo. 

 

...think Chargers would let him walk?........

[DCOrange]

6 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...think Chargers would let him walk?........

I imagine so with Keenan Allen and Mike Williams already in the fold. Tyrell will probably be looking for a larger role than the one he has with the Chargers and in a weak free agency class, someone will probably pay him a lot of money.

[Captain Murica]

8 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...think Chargers would let him walk?........

I do, he’s going to want to get paid along with having a larger role, and a franchise like the bills will more than likely over pay for his services. 

 

Plus, they’ll have several positions to fill and rank 20th in cap space. 

[Bing Bong]

23 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

There's almost certainly no #1 WR available via free agency (unless someone is released that we aren't talking about yet). Guys like Quincy Enunwa, Chris Conley, Tyrell Williams, and Adam Humphries are worth pursuing IMO, but none of them appear to be #1 caliber receivers.

 

It seems like the only guy really worth considering in the top 10 of the draft is DK Metcalf, but if it were me personally, I'd just wait until the 2nd-4th round and probably take two guys in that range rather than spending a 1st round pick on a WR; this class is absurdly deep and the guys you can draft in the 2nd-4th are probably just as likely to become good WRs as anyone you'd take in the first round. My personal favorites in that range are N'Keal Harry (if he falls to the 2nd), Deebo Samuel, and Collin Johnson.

I'm reading he's seen as a reach since the WR class this year looks like slim pickings. That sucks.

[H2o]

1 hour ago, NewDayBills said:

Everywhere I've looked he's a 4th round prospect. Could rise though.

I've seen 1-2 where I have looked. 

[DCOrange]

1 minute ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

I'm reading he's seen as a reach since the WR class this year looks like slim pickings. That sucks.

 

I think this is easily the best WR class we've had since the Sammy/Odell/Evans class. It doesn't have the top end talent that that class had but I think there's seriously like 20 WRs in this class that project as future starters (obviously they won't all pan out, but the point is there's an absurd amount of depth in this class).

[Victory Formation]

4 minutes ago, H2o said:

I've seen 1-2 where I have looked. 

I'm not an expert but I do consider myself informed. Parris Campbell should go in the 3rd at the earliest and that would be after the combine and all that jazz. I do like him though.

[mjt328]

It's a pretty weak group of Wide Receivers in free agency this year.  All I see is a bunch of aging vets, question marks and guys suited to be #2 targets.  A good GM should be able to find some decent help and depth, but I don't see anybody capable of being a team's elite #1 receiver (outside of maybe Josh Gordon, and we all know how that could end up).

 

This particular WR draft class is considered pretty "deep" on Day 2.  But it doesn't have a clear-cut/can't-miss elite prospect at the very top.  It's very possible that someone eventually emerges as a #1 receiver, but it may take some time, development and patience.  It will be another test of Brandon Beane and the scouts to pick out the right guy from the bunch, and try to land him in the 2nd or early 3rd Round.

 

Bottom line, the only way I see Buffalo entering Week 1 of the 2019 season with an elite WR (that isn't going to take 1-2 years to develop) is through a trade.  There have been rumblings about Julio Jones, AJ Green and Antonio Brown.  So maybe we decide to go that direction.

 

 

 

[Bing Bong]

8 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

 

I think this is easily the best WR class we've had since the Sammy/Odell/Evans class. It doesn't have the top end talent that that class had but I think there's seriously like 20 WRs in this class that project as future starters (obviously they won't all pan out, but the point is there's an absurd amount of depth in this class).

Nice let's draft like 3 and see what sticks

[H2o]

5 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:

I'm not an expert but I do consider myself informed. Parris Campbell should go in the 3rd at the earliest and that would be after the combine and all that jazz. I do like him though.

 

I respect your thoughts on this my friend. I believe Campbell will go early 2nd day at the least. Just my 2. I would like to see him in a Bills uni, along with Miles Boykin from Notre Dame. Boykin can be had in the 3rd or 4th as he is not a burner, but can shake a defender and catches pretty much everything that hits his hands. 

[jrober38]

Draft class at WR is loaded. 

 

Free agent class is terrible. 

[LABILLBACKER]

6 hours ago, NewDayBills said:

I'm hoping we go NKeal Harry or Marquise Brown in either a trade down from #6 or with our 2nd. Anthony Johnson from Buffalo in RD2 would also be a nice consolation prize if we miss out on Harry or Brown. Follow up with Parris Campbell with our first RD4 pick. Worst case scenario is we walk away with Johnson and Campbell and I'm damn cool with that. I think Johnson from Buffalo would beat out Zay eventually for that #1 job. A guy like Campbell would be a nice #3 with potential to grow. Either way I don't think RD1 has to be WR. RD2 though definitely.

Either Harry or trade down in the 1st for M Brown. Either of these guys would be huge upgrades. 

[Victory Formation]

8 minutes ago, H2o said:

 

I respect your thoughts on this my friend. I believe Campbell will go early 2nd day at the least. Just my 2. I would like to see him in a Bills uni, along with Miles Boykin from Notre Dame. Boykin can be had in the 3rd or 4th as he is not a burner, but can shake a defender and catches pretty much everything that hits his hands. 

Don't forget you got Marquise Brown, AJ Brown, Metcalf, Harry, Johnson going ahead of him. First WR will probably come off the board in the mid teens. How many go in the 1st-2nd round? Maybe Campbell can sneak into the late 2nd. Maybe he slips to us RD3?

[Bing Bong]

3 hours ago, HOUSE said:

Can we find one that can catch the ball? This would really help

Thank you

 

 

 

haha there's so much ODB in this.

[Victory Formation]

5 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Either Harry or trade down in the 1st for M Brown. Either of these guys would be huge upgrades. 

Not a bad plan if you walk away with an extra 2nd and 3rd and still walk away with Marquise Brown on a cheap 5 year deal.

[HuSeYiN_NYC]

1 hour ago, Tatonka68 said:

Kelvin Benjamin 2.0. I am over these type of players they never pan out. 

 

That's disrespectful to the young kid. If he sprinted he would put more effort than KB. Bad assessment. 

[Antonio]

3 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

Kid is truly a beast. Physical, fast, great elusiveness and swats defenders away like gnats.

I think he is physical and with great vision, but is he really fast? If he is fast why does he has so many contested catches? I´m worry he uses his body to catch a lot insted of his hands.