Careful With Those DNA Tests!

[Tiberius]

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/sep/18/your-fathers-not-your-father-when-dna-tests-reveal-more-than-you-bargained-for

 

You might learn more than you bargained for! 

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In bed one night six weeks later, they pulled up the results from AncestryDNA on the laptop. They were impressed by the news about Michèle’s husband, which mostly reflected what he had always been told about his family. Then they opened Michèle’s results. “The first thing that popped up is a pie chart, and one whole half was red and said ‘Italian'.' “I was dumbfounded. Like: ‘Well, that’s a huge mistake. They must have mixed mine up with someone else’s.’” She laughs, but you can hear it is hard-won. “My husband looks through it, then he says: ‘Honey, they didn’t make a mistake. This is you.’” That night, Michèle had her first ever anxiety attack.

 

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

so ... was it the milk man? 

or the pool boy

[RochesterRob]

13 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/sep/18/your-fathers-not-your-father-when-dna-tests-reveal-more-than-you-bargained-for

 

You might learn more than you bargained for! 

 

 

  Fact is with all the invasions that have happened throughout humanity to all places on Earth the DNA was going to get mixed.  I've heard plenty of stories where some person is very disappointed that they are not what they thought they were.  A nephew of mine thought he had a lot of Italian blood to find out it is around 5 percent of his composition.  No doubt the result of the barbarians sweeping down into Italy as the Roman Empire was dying.  

[DC Tom]

People are stupid.  You are not your DNA.

[LeviF]

11 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

People are stupid.  You are not your DNA.

 

But it can be a hell of a thing to find out your mother is a dirty *****.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, RochesterRob said:

  Fact is with all the invasions that have happened throughout humanity to all places on Earth the DNA was going to get mixed.  I've heard plenty of stories where some person is very disappointed that they are not what they thought they were.  A nephew of mine thought he had a lot of Italian blood to find out it is around 5 percent of his composition.  No doubt the result of the barbarians sweeping down into Italy as the Roman Empire was dying.  

Both my grandparents moved to the US from Sicily in the early 1900's

Parents were born in the 20's.

 

I think its safe to say I'm solidly a Sicilian 

[teef]

they kept rejecting the sperm samples i sent them.  i guess i'll never know.

[whatdrought]

That's what she gets for taking the Elizabeth Warren track: 

 

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But Michèle was considering going back to study, and she had been told she had some Native American blood on her father’s side – maybe if she could say how much, she figured, she would be eligible for scholarships. 

 

[RochesterRob]

29 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Both my grandparents moved to the US from Sicily in the early 1900's

Parents were born in the 20's.

 

I think its safe to say I'm solidly a Sicilian 

  With all due respect Sicily had outsiders come in from other parts of the Mediterranean.  As it was with other parts of the world it just did not happen during the last few centuries in mass.  I'm sure that I would have several colors in my pie chart if I were to do a test.  I am part Irish via Scotland so the Scot primary DNA was diluted from that portion of the family remaining and intermingling in Ireland for a few centuries.  In the end it does not matter as we are what we are.  

[KD in CA]

29 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

That's what she gets for taking the Elizabeth Warren track: 

 

 

 

That's ok, Michele can still identify as an Indian like Senator P.

[bbb]

2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

so ... was it the milk man? 

or the pool boy

 

Since he was Italian, I'm going with the pizza delivery boy. 

[Buffalo716]

I’m a Viking and polack!

[LeviF]

58 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Both my grandparents moved to the US from Sicily in the early 1900's

Parents were born in the 20's.

 

I think its safe to say I'm solidly a Sicilian 

 

Well based on Rob's theory above, you're pretty solidly an African too.  Do you play basketball?

[RochesterRob]

8 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:

 

Well based on Rob's theory above, you're pretty solidly an African too.  Do you play basketball?

  A lot more than Africa on the Mediterranean and that was my point.  Could be Greek, Middle Eastern, African, even Asian.  Who knows and that is the point.  Not trying to crap on anybody's pride but the reality is often different than the passed down story in a lot of families.  Take the test and you will know for sure.  I would put my faith in science versus a story that may have been twisted to fit a fantasy or desire.  

[LeviF]

4 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  A lot more than Africa on the Mediterranean and that was my point.  Could be Greek, Middle Eastern, African, even Asian.  Who knows and that is the point.  Not trying to crap on anybody's pride but the reality is often different than the passed down story in a lot of families.  Take the test and you will know for sure.  I would put my faith in science versus a story that may have been twisted to fit a fantasy or desire.  

 

Oh I'm just poking what seems to be a common sore spot with eye-talians.

[Jauronimo]

31 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I’m a Viking and polack!

I'm guessing that means you need to take your shoes off to spell S-K-O-L?

7 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:

 

Oh I'm just poking what seems to be a common sore spot with eye-talians.

eye-talians is always pissed off to find out they is actually half-moulie.

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, Jauronimo said:

I'm guessing that means you need to take your shoes off to spell S-K-O-L?

 

Hey!!

 

I have 9 fingers I can count with!

[Nanker]

NSFW. NSFW. NSFW.

Oh, it's NSFW.

 

[ocemur]

I'd like to try this, but I've heard the results aren't replicable, so if you send them two samples a month apart, you are likely to get two different sets of results. Also, as a half a ***** let me point out that people around the Mediterranean have been raiding, pillaging, conquering, trading and crawling all over each other like a box of hamsters for 10,000 years or more. Carthage was an African Empire founded by Asians (Phoenicians) then conquered by Europeans, and the Greeks conquered Egypt long before that. 

 

 

[RochesterRob]

5 minutes ago, ocemur said:

I'd like to try this, but I've heard the results aren't replicable, so if you send them two samples a month apart, you are likely to get two different sets of results. Also, as a half a ***** let me point out that people around the Mediterranean have been raiding, pillaging, conquering, trading and crawling all over each other like a box of hamsters for 10,000 years or more. Carthage was an African Empire founded by Asians (Phoenicians) then conquered by Europeans, and the Greeks conquered Egypt long before that. 

 

 

  Probably the percentages would vary some but I would like to think that there are certain absolutes.  That certain strains of DNA are present or not present.  I would still put more faith in a test than a family story.  I've seen many stories blown to pieces when the light is shined on certain aspects.  

[RaoulDuke79]

2 hours ago, teef said:

they kept rejecting the sperm samples i sent them.  i guess i'll never know.

You have to use the container they provide, not on old gym sock.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

4 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

so ... was it the milk man? 

or the pool boy

The pool boy?!  Dance for Dixie!

[ExiledInIllinois]

5 hours ago, LeviF91 said:

 

But it can be a hell of a thing to find out your mother is a dirty *****.

LoL... It was the Prom Date!

 

Then poor dude died in a bike accident!

 

Anyway... Is that Michèle in pic?  Would ya?  Mama did!

[Greybeard]

3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

I’m a Viking and polack!

         Same here.  I have a feeling most with Polish ancestors get this result.   The first report they sent said I had some native american connection but later reports seems to have lost that info.  It was very very very small.

[Tiberius]

45 minutes ago, Greybeard said:

         Same here.  I have a feeling most with Polish ancestors get this result.   The first report they sent said I had some native american connection but later reports seems to have lost that info.  It was very very very small.

I think Dan Marino and Joe Montana were both Italian and Polish. Those immigrant groups came over about the same time. A lot of Germans and Irish mixed as well. 

[Greybeard]

13 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

I think Dan Marino and Joe Montana were both Italian and Polish. Those immigrant groups came over about the same time. A lot of Germans and Irish mixed as well. 

    Now I find out I should have been a quarterback.?

[ExiledInIllinois]

4 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

I’m a Viking and polack!

It's not a far stretch across the Baltic to Scandinavia.

 

Names ending in -ski I believe are from Southern Poland, near the Carpathian Mountains.

 

My mother is a -ski.  My father's father lineage and my last name, Pomeranian (German and Polish)... Which doesn't end in a -ski. Father's mother now, last name ended in -ski.

[That's No Moon]

5 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Both my grandparents moved to the US from Sicily in the early 1900's

Parents were born in the 20's.

 

I think its safe to say I'm solidly a Sicilian 

Your grandparents might have moved from Sicily but given the sheer number of times Sicily has been conquered and held by different groups along with it's positioning along so many major trade routes I think it's extremely that your DNA is a very interesting mishmash.

 

Mine is similar.  My great grandparents were from Cornwall, Norway, and Poland.  Given that Vikings went all over Gods green Earth and Slavic peoples are subject to influences from all over the place, and the Cornish were conquered multiple times as well including by the Romans it's REALLY unlikely that my DNA will pop up as purely Northern European.

 

[Johnny Hammersticks]

46 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

It's not a far stretch across the Baltic to Scandinavia.

 

Names ending in -ski I believe are from Southern Poland, near the Carpathian Mountains.

 

My mother is a -ski.  My father's father lineage and my last name, Pomeranian (German and Polish)... Which doesn't end in a -ski. Father's mother now, last name ended in -ski.

 

Your last name is Pomeranian?  Like the dog?

[ExiledInIllinois]

4 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Your last name is Pomeranian?  Like the dog?

Yep!  I am an ankle biter!  

 

That ain't no Ghetto Dog.  Don't let Teddy tell You otherwise!

 

 

?

[RochesterRob]

9 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Your grandparents might have moved from Sicily but given the sheer number of times Sicily has been conquered and held by different groups along with it's positioning along so many major trade routes I think it's extremely that your DNA is a very interesting mishmash.

 

Mine is similar.  My great grandparents were from Cornwall, Norway, and Poland.  Given that Vikings went all over Gods green Earth and Slavic peoples are subject to influences from all over the place, and the Cornish were conquered multiple times as well including by the Romans it's REALLY unlikely that my DNA will pop up as purely Northern European.

 

  Yep, even though my father's family considers themselves mostly German they have the eyes I tend to associate with Scandanavians.  Also, my understanding is that the peoples of Central Northern Europe invited the Northerners down to help repopulate after the Black Plague.

[ExiledInIllinois]

4 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Yep, even though my father's family considers themselves mostly German they have the eyes I tend to associate with Scandanavians.  Also, my understanding is that the peoples of Central Northern Europe invited the Northerners down to help repopulate after the Black Plague.

I don't think they were invited.  Or were You being sarcastic? I'm

 

http://www.hurstwic.org/history/articles/text/word_viking.htm

 

"The runic inscriptions suggest that a viking was a man who left his homeland for adventure and profit abroad, with the implication that he planned to return home with his newly won fortune and fame. The word existed in both a noun form (víkingr, the person traveling for adventure) and a verb form (víking, to travel or participate in one of these adventures)."

[RochesterRob]

3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

I don't think they were invited.  Or were You being sarcastic? I'm

 

http://www.hurstwic.org/history/articles/text/word_viking.htm

 

"The runic inscriptions suggest that a viking was a man who left his homeland for adventure and profit abroad, with the implication that he planned to return home with his newly won fortune and fame. The word existed in both a noun form (víkingr, the person traveling for adventure) and a verb form (víking, to travel or participate in one of these adventures)."

  I understand what you are saying about the Vikings but my one well educated cousin found information suggesting that peoples from some parts of Sweden were invited down into parts of Denmark and Northern Germany.  I don't know extensively the history of the Vikings so I don't know how widely spread they were in Sweden or Finland versus the "traditional" base of Norway.  I'll admit there may be a lot to be learned about the matter.

[ExiledInIllinois]

1 minute ago, RochesterRob said:

  I understand what you are saying about the Vikings but my one well educated cousin found information suggesting that peoples from some parts of Sweden were invited down into parts of Denmark and Northern Germany.  I don't know extensively the history of the Vikings so I don't know how widely spread they were in Sweden or Finland versus the "traditional" base of Norway.  I'll admit there may be a lot to be learned about the matter.

Start of the "Little Ice Age" the Southern Shores of the Baltic was like South Beach, swinging hot spot!

 

Damn Climate change!

[Wacka]

21 hours ago, Tiberius said:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/sep/18/your-fathers-not-your-father-when-dna-tests-reveal-more-than-you-bargained-for

 

You might learn more than you bargained for! 

 

 

I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty-headed animal-food-trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries.

[PromoTheRobot]

It's also worth knowing these DNA companies share your results with law enforcement, whether you're a suspect of a crime or not. They just add you to their database 

[Kevbeau]

My father is 50/50 Irish-Swedish but has dark skin. (Spanish Armada theory?) My grandfather on my Mom's side was off the boat from Italy and had blonde hair and blue eyes.

 

My sister has told me that if I were take a DNA test it would come back 90% Neanderthal

[Buffalo716]

19 hours ago, RochesterRob said:

  Yep, even though my father's family considers themselves mostly German they have the eyes I tend to associate with Scandanavians.  Also, my understanding is that the peoples of Central Northern Europe invited the Northerners down to help repopulate after the Black Plague.

Ethnic Germans who are Germanic and Scandinavians are pretty  much one in the same. Seeing as Scandinavians are Germanic tribes who stayed north and Ethnic Germans are are the aftermath of the migration of Germanic tribes 

 

my mother is fully german and it comes back Scandinavian on DNA tests because the Germanic tribes swept down from Scandinavia and into Germany proper and Poland and eventually into Italy and North Africa and Spain 

Edited December 6, 2018 by Buffalo716

[RochesterRob]

3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Ethnic Germans who are Germanic and Scandinavians are pretty  much one in the same. Seeing as Scandinavians are Germanic tribes who stayed north and Ethnic Germans are are the aftermath of the migration of Germanic tribes 

 

my mother is fully german and it comes back Scandinavian on DNA tests because the Germanic tribes swept down from Scandinavia and into Germany proper and Poland and eventually into Italy and North Africa and Spain 

  My curiosity has been raised on my own origin since this thread started.  My father's family would have been out of the path of the Roman's as they swept north but probably encountered invaders from other directions including the East.  A significant amount of my mother's family is English so who knows if a Roman got a hold of one of her ancestors from England (not any Welsh that I know of).  I've read a little on the barbarian invasions that happened in Europe but I guess that it is time to read some more.

[Buffalo716]

10 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  My curiosity has been raised on my own origin since this thread started.  My father's family would have been out of the path of the Roman's as they swept north but probably encountered invaders from other directions including the East.  A significant amount of my mother's family is English so who knows if a Roman got a hold of one of her ancestors from England (not any Welsh that I know of).  I've read a little on the barbarian invasions that happened in Europe but I guess that it is time to read some more.

What do you believe is your ethnicity?

 

i majored in history so have a good grasp of the time frame and European history