Johnnycage46 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 hour ago, stuvian said: exhibition season continues That where I'm at. Feels like the 4th preseason game. Gonna check in and see if there are any players standing out. At this point a win would only really hurt their draft standing. If Allen were in at least it would be a developmental game. I am struggling to think of a compelling reason to stay glued to the Bills game this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Me too but he's been bad. A huge liability when he is in there on defense and he's been bad on special teams as well. There are a million younger, cheaper, faster backup WILL linebackers on the street. They should have kept Tanner Vallejo who is doing some good work for the Browns special teams units. Hopefully, they decide to give Corey Thompson a look on special teams at the very least. wondered where Tanner went. I'm surprised they would cut one of there own. Let's hope they continue with that "process" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Johnnycage46 said: I am struggling to think of a compelling reason to stay glued to the Bills game this week. I'm going with "morbid curiosity". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Fan in LA Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 I was thinking that after the blow out loss last week to the Bears we finally hit rock bottom. But tomorrow we face the Jets with Josh McCown and we're stating another guy off the street. If Barkley had all preseason and the regular season to prepare, he'd still suck tomorrow. That's why he's not on anybodies roster.............how can we be doing this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBills Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 9 hours ago, Kevin1778 said: He is worse than Peterman and Allen. Wait. Who cares though. Allen stays healthy he starts last six. You realize Barkley was going to be the #2 on the Bengals this year until he got hurt. There's absolutely no way possible that Barkley is worse than Pete Naterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Fan in LA Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, WildBills said: You realize Barkley was going to be the #2 on the Bengals this year until he got hurt. There's absolutely no way possible that Barkley is worse than Pete Naterman. We're about to find out................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shween Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 10 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Put it this way in 6 starts Barkley has 3-300 yd passing games. Since 2014 the bills have had a guy throw for 300 yds 1 time and it was in an overtime game Since 2014 ? I knew it wasn’t good but didn’t realize it was that long ago , must be a league record ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 To be fair, if we knew in 2012 that Barkley was our starter in 2018, we would have been over the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 3 hours ago, WildBills said: You realize Barkley was going to be the #2 on the Bengals this year until he got hurt. There's absolutely no way possible that Barkley is worse than Pete Naterman. What's the deal with Bills getting Bengals Backup QBs. First McCarron and now Barkley. Why didn't they just go for Dalton and at least have a starter. After all, Dalton did lead Bills to a playoffs last year. LOL. And to think, I delayed taking my yearly trek to Florida so I could see this game. At least we have the Bye week to look forward to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 10 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Not at all. He threw at MINIMUM one pass that should have been picked off in every one of those games. They were all those out patterns he's too weak-armed to throw. It happened. And all his great stats were the result of incredibly vanilla offense with easy passes vs incredibly vanilla defense. He never should have started this year and he wouldn't have if we had a coach who wasn't enamored by stats. I recall you being a very reputable poster. This falls short of that. Frustration happens, but don't go down that route. He did have the one bad pass, but it wasn't more than one. He was the best QB on the field in the preseason. And that is OK. We don't need to hate the McBeane or Peterman for that to be true and for it also to be true that he wildly underperformed when the regular season started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 15 hours ago, Bangarang said: Even if Barkley throws up on himself, with Anderson and Allen expected to be back Peterman is still gone. I agree with this. McBeane really botched the QB thing, not good for the longevity of their careers IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 The only thing the current regime did wrong, if you want to call it that, was not signing a veteran guy to come in after McCarron was traded. Beane said as much. And from what I've read, they tried to do so. Other than that? Peterman played really well in preseason. You can howl all you want about preseason not counting, but he clearly beat out McCarron. No question. But he threw up again in the regular season games. Even last week he hits three guys in the hands and still got picked. Not much can be done about that. But clearly he has now shown he just can't be trusted. So they brough in Anderson. He got hurt. Allen got hurt. Two QBs got hurt. The third guy hasn't cut it. So they had to sign a fourth guy, another vet in Barkley that has a meh history. What exactly do you think they're going to get at this point in the season, a Pro Bowl type guy? Barkley is Anderson is Sanchez is Moore is any other veteran guy out there in the same position. So going forward you hope Barkley provides something. You hope Allen comes back after the bye. For the bloodthirsty I suppose you can cut Peterman. Other than that, what. Two QBs including your young starter went down. Any team in the league would have troubles then, unless you're playing the Raiders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 14 hours ago, Virgil said: If they honestly believe this is the best choice to start and not because of fan/media pressure against Peterman, then Peterman should be cut. Either way, this is pathetic Peterman can't be cut now, because he is the backup. After this game, when we will likely have four healthy QBs -- it would seem that Peterman would have to be cut. Unless, of course, Barkley shows worse than Peterman today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 15 hours ago, Elite Poster said: The guy this team decided was good enough to be our starter after a 2 month long "QB competition" got beaten out by two street free agents - not to mention they gave up on him after one half to begin the year. It's these guys we have trusted to nail the QB position...gulp. This is exactly everything you need to know about the evaluation from this group and why both of them have to be fired before the next draft Another quarterback has to be taken in the first two rounds next year and there is no way these two idiots will have the guts to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: This is exactly everything you need to know about the evaluation from this group and why both of them have to be fired before the next draft Another quarterback has to be taken in the first two rounds next year and there is no way these two idiots will have the guts to do it They are not getting fired and the constant calls for such are beyond ridiculous at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 2 hours ago, oldmanfan said: They are not getting fired and the constant calls for such are beyond ridiculous at this point Maybe now. But if they flame out in 2 years it will be hard to say that we didn't see it coming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Elite Poster said: Maybe now. But if they flame out in 2 years it will be hard to say that we didn't see it coming... If they do they'll deserve it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) I think starting Barkley is a bad idea. In fact I think it is idiotic. They guy doesn't know the playbook, he has had no time to work with the receivers, and at his best he isn't any good anyway. Not that Peterman is a great option, but Barkley is a worse one. Edited November 11, 2018 by Dr. K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 4 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I recall you being a very reputable poster. This falls short of that. Frustration happens, but don't go down that route. He did have the one bad pass, but it wasn't more than one. He was the best QB on the field in the preseason. And that is OK. We don't need to hate the McBeane or Peterman for that to be true and for it also to be true that he wildly underperformed when the regular season started. You do? What's your previous username? And I'm sorry, but nothing I said about Peterman's preseason was wrong. Be enamored with preseason stats all you want. For QBs, those don't matter much--see 2015 And Jeff Tuel in 2013. What matters is what TYPES of throws they're making, whether they're going through progressions, pocket presence in the face of pressure, etc. Peterman was, at best, an Incomplete on all those important things in the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 The best thing Barkley can do today, is rare back and fire a bullet to KB hitting him right in the nuts. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 19 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: That’s not why he was a 4th round pick. If he came out in 2012 he would have been a top 10 pick. He went back had a tough season and then got hurt. That’s why he went in the 4th. Nobody was complaining about him when he was throwing for 39 tds and 7 picks in his jr year. I’m not saying he’s going to be good but let’s hive him a shot. He doesn’t have an arm like Allen but he can play in the league unlike Peterman This just isn't true. Barkley had a noodle arm in college and he has a noodle arm now. He thrived in college throwing a ton of WR screens to Marquis Lee and Robert Woods, but has never been able to drive the ball down the field. As a QB he's extremely limited, hence why he's struggled to hold onto a job as anything more than an emergency QB since he was drafted. 16 hours ago, Fadingpain said: It's a rather Billsy stat, isn't it? Our gift to the record books. My guess is it's never happened, which explains the whole having the worst offense in NFL history thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: The best thing Barkley can do today, is rare back and fire a bullet to KB hitting him right in the nuts. You just gave me a reason to watch this game. It resembles preseason with these rosters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 I’m sure the NFL is psyched about having to promote a Barkley/McCown matchup mid season - it’s one thing in late December when audiences’ attentions are distracted but my goodness, this is not a good look for pre-Thanksgiving professional football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: I’m sure the NFL is psyched about having to promote a Barkley/McCown matchup mid season - it’s one thing in late December when audiences’ attentions are distracted but my goodness, this is not a good look for pre-Thanksgiving professional football. It’s not on national tv so no need to promote. They are probably hoping no one notices. This game is for the die-hards of each team only. And even many of those will probably bail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 40 minutes ago, Dr. K said: I think starting Barkley is a bad idea. In fact I think it is idiotic. They guy doesn't know the playbook, he has had no time to work with the receivers, and at his best he isn't any good anyway. Not that Peterman is a great option, but Barkley is a worse one. Agreed. 8 TDs to 18 Interceptions with 7 fumbles for his career, on teams where he was with the team he played for all season. Asking a terrible QB to play a regular season game with like 5 practices under his belt is moronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 21 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: The best thing Barkley can do today, is rare back and fire a bullet to KB hitting him right in the nuts. Best post in the thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Dr. K said: I think starting Barkley is a bad idea. In fact I think it is idiotic. They guy doesn't know the playbook, he has had no time to work with the receivers, and at his best he isn't any good anyway. Not that Peterman is a great option, but Barkley is a worse one. I think the thought process is that Peterman is a lost cause, both with his confidence and the locker room, and the only other option is Barkley due to the injuries. They just couldn’t roll him out there again. The bottom line is that they held out hope for Allen but probably did the right thing holding him out one more game and just needed anyone but Peterman to play today. If Barkley is worse, then he’s worse. We don’t know that until he plays. There was no “good” option between the two. Edited November 11, 2018 by YoloinOhio 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Keep it simple. Short passing game of dink and dunk. Barkley does not possess a cannon for an arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think the thought process is that Peterman is a lost cause, both with his confidence and the locker room, and the only other option is Barkley due to the injuries. They just couldn’t roll him out there again. The bottom line is that they held out hope for Allen but probably did the right thing holding him out one more game and just needed anyone but Peterman to play today. If Barkley is worse, then he’s worse. We don’t know that until he plays. We know Barkley is a terrible NFL QB because we just signed him off the street and he didn't make a team coming out of camp. The guy's career numbers are horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 This is a throw away game Imo. I could see this being as bad or worse than the Browns 6-3 game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, jrober38 said: We know Barkley is a terrible NFL QB because we just signed him off the street and he didn't make a team coming out of camp. The guy's career numbers are horrible. He’s terrible. No one says he’s not. But you don’t know he’s worse than Peterman. And those are your two options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 23 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s terrible. No one says he’s not. But you don’t know he’s worse than Peterman. And those are your two options. At least Peterman knows the playbook and the receivers. He can take a snap from center without fumbling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Dr. K said: At least Peterman knows the playbook and the receivers. He can take a snap from center without fumbling it. At least Barkley can complete a pass downfield leading to a TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suorangefan4 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: At least Barkley can complete a pass downfield leading to a TD I guess you're going to ignore the two beautiful passes Peterman threw last week that would've been TDs but Benjamin dropped them. There has to be a curse on Peterman because his receivers always screw him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, suorangefan4 said: I guess you're going to ignore the two beautiful passes Peterman threw last week that would've been TDs but Benjamin dropped them. There has to be a curse on Peterman because his receivers always screw him. He’s the worst QB of all time. Barkley only has to be the 2nd worst of all time to be better. i guess you are also choosing to ignore the perfect TD pass barkley throw to Benjamin that he dropped. Works both ways. Edited November 11, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: At least Barkley can complete a pass downfield leading to a TD Clearly I was wrong. I admit it gratefully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 7 hours ago, jrober38 said: Agreed. 8 TDs to 18 Interceptions with 7 fumbles for his career, on teams where he was with the team he played for all season. Asking a terrible QB to play a regular season game with like 5 practices under his belt is moronic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just now, Real McCoy said: Blue cheese or ranch with that beautiful bird? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Blue cheese or ranch with that beautiful bird? Screw it I will go plain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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