jrober38 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: You mean to say we may see 30 completions for a 100 yards tomorrow? I cant wait to watch the check down fest Barkley throws the ball down the field with a noodle arm. The result has been 8 career TDs to 18 picks and 7 fumbles in 266 pass attempts. He's a terrible QB. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Anybody know a good stream for the world chess championship? how fast is your internet streaming ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 52 minutes ago, Steptide said: Unless Barkley is worse, which would take an awful lot Cant really get worse than what Peterman has shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 49 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Such is life when the starter is out. My daughter just texted me that we wouldn't have gone through this if we had kept McCarron. I said back it wouldn't matter; may have made the losses closer. I'm gonna disagree with this a little bit. You may be right about the score part. However I thought the point of dumping vets was to start building the dynasty. Play young players to develop. Guys like Za y and Croom and the young Oline guys. How are we supposed to do that with inaccurate turn over machines at QB? Barkley has the same MO. At least AJ has had some success effectively running an NFL offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Fair enough. Everyone knew the Jets were picking a QB and had Josh McCown and they were still able to get Teddy Bridgewater. I think a strong argument can be made that the Bills have mismanaged their QBs this year more than any team in 20 years. No team I can ever remember has starter two QBs who they signed only 1-2 weeks prior to them playing. Like i said impressive work by McBeanes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Ya agree rest Allen when bye week comes to be 100. It's a lost season. Have Allen learn rest of way with Anderson. Winning is meaningless now. Root for draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Right, McDermott traded McCarron, he injured Allen, he concussed Anderson, he made certain the offensive line was incapable of protecting any quarterback, he fixed the elections, ....... i was with you till " fixed the elections" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, wppete said: Cant really get worse than what Peterman has shown. Anderson had 6 turnovers, a pick six, and no Touchdowns in two starts against two of worst defenses in the NFL. Not sure Peterman or Anderson are the problem. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I'm gonna disagree with this a little bit. You may be right about the score part. However I thought the point of dumping vets was to start building the dynasty. Play young players to develop. Guys like Za y and Croom and the young Oline guys. How are we supposed to do that with inaccurate turn over machines at QB? Barkley has the same MO. At least AJ has had some success effectively running an NFL offense. One could also say Barkley filled in OK with the Bears. Ultimately it's Allen that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, jrober38 said: His arm is terrible. He was a 4th round pick because he's got a noodle arm. I hope they lose on a last second field goal. Winning does nothing to help this team long term. That’s not why he was a 4th round pick. If he came out in 2012 he would have been a top 10 pick. He went back had a tough season and then got hurt. That’s why he went in the 4th. Nobody was complaining about him when he was throwing for 39 tds and 7 picks in his jr year. I’m not saying he’s going to be good but let’s hive him a shot. He doesn’t have an arm like Allen but he can play in the league unlike Peterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: That’s not why he was a 4th round pick. If he came out in 2012 he would have been a top 10 pick. He went back had a tough season and then got hurt. That’s why he went in the 4th. Nobody was complaining about him when he was throwing for 39 tds and 7 picks in his jr year. I’m not saying he’s going to be good but let’s hive him a shot. He doesn’t have an arm like Allen but he can play in the league unlike Peterman He can't play in the league or he wouldnt be here. And who cares about his college stats. Peterman even had great college stats. Barkley threw for 125 yards and had three turnovers and no touchdowns in his last NFL start. Only reason he is playing is because his last name isn't Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Put it this way in 6 starts Barkley has 3-300 yd passing games. Since 2014 the bills have had a guy throw for 300 yds 1 time and it was in an overtime game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Kevin1778 said: He can't play in the league or he wouldnt be here. And who cares about his college stats. Peterman even had great college stats. Barkley threw for 125 yards and had three turnovers and no touchdowns in his last NFL start. Only reason he is playing is because his last name isn't Peterman. isn't context important when citing single game stats. i have no dog in the fight , but that tough to hang your hat on about Barkley. and his college career may no longer be relevant , but one game stats when he had to start ? not sure i would measure him by that : ) Edited November 10, 2018 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 If they honestly believe this is the best choice to start and not because of fan/media pressure against Peterman, then Peterman should be cut. Either way, this is pathetic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Barkley playing poorly does nothing to derail an already dead season. Nothing can be worse then what it already has been. Now if he somehow makes the most of this opportunity and plays well, we might accidentally find a long term back up. We may also get to evaluate a few WRs, get a win going into a bye and maybe let Allen come back at his own pace. Nothing to lose, a lot to gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Virgil said: If they honestly believe this is the best choice to start and not because of fan/media pressure against Peterman, then Peterman should be cut. Either way, this is pathetic if we recall McD's running commentary about Nathan up until Anderson joined the team , and now Barkley being brought in to start? He talked very highly of his skills in practice and such. this move says to me, OOPS ! just kidding !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: One could also say Barkley filled in OK with the Bears. Ultimately it's Allen that matters. Barkley was pedestrian at best for the Bears IMHO. But ok. As to your other point yes and no. While it is important to develop Allen, there are also 10 other guys out there that need to be really good and do their job to win that need to be developed too was my point. If Alen is injured and can't play, we don't have to put everyone else's development on hold til he gets back. The NFL is full of cases where a team with a really good qb has not had regular sucess. Like the Chargers regularly missing the playoffs with Rivers under center. QB is THE most important position, but far from the ONLY position that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I honestly hope we lose, not blown out but give me a lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Steptide said: Barf surprised they released Humber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said: surprised they released Humber Me too. I would rather have kept Humber and released Stanford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, H2o said: Me too. I would rather have kept Humber and released Stanford Right, he hasn't done much, thought Humber was serviceable . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Humber is garbage and we might as well give Foster one more shot before we get rid of him too. They are so obviously tanking dude No. No they’re not. They’re awful, but they’re not tanking. If your plan is to tank you don’t beg Kyle Williams to come back. You just want want to keep your head in the sand so you can pretend the organization isn’t being run by idiots. I understand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) I’ll support the guy. I’m happy he’s getting a shot and will hope for the best. Until we are literally eliminated I just can’t root for losses. Especially because I will be there. I hope Barkley plays well and who knows, maybe we can beat the team I hate the most. Not expecting anything good but thrilled it’s not Peterman Edited November 10, 2018 by Brianmoorman4jesus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 49 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Right, McDermott traded McCarron, he injured Allen, he concussed Anderson, he made certain the offensive line was incapable of protecting any quarterback, he fixed the elections, ....... Don't be a fool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 What does “expected” mean? Josh could still play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Dang. I wanted to see Peterman once more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I'd rather it be Barkley than Peterman. At least he is still kind of an unknown. Allen is all but certain to be the starter after the bye. That will be at least be one good reason to watch the rest of this awful season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Looks like the Barkley era will last 2 weeks After the bye Cornfed should be back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 41 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Barkley was pedestrian at best for the Bears IMHO. But ok. As to your other point yes and no. While it is important to develop Allen, there are also 10 other guys out there that need to be really good and do their job to win that need to be developed too was my point. If Alen is injured and can't play, we don't have to put everyone else's development on hold til he gets back. The NFL is full of cases where a team with a really good qb has not had regular sucess. Like the Chargers regularly missing the playoffs with Rivers under center. QB is THE most important position, but far from the ONLY position that matters. Allen in terms of QB. I absolutely agree that any QB needs pieces around him. I presume that will be the major focus this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 33 minutes ago, The_Dude said: No. No they’re not. They’re awful, but they’re not tanking. If your plan is to tank you don’t beg Kyle Williams to come back. You just want want to keep your head in the sand so you can pretend the organization isn’t being run by idiots. I understand. You keep Kyle around as a mentor for the young talent you're bringing in and to keep the locker room together. 32 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I’ll support the guy. I’m happy he’s getting a shot and will hope for the best. Until we are literally eliminated I just can’t root for losses. Especially because I will be there. I hope Barkley plays well and who knows, maybe we can beat the team I hate the most. Not expecting anything good but thrilled it’s not Peterman I love how you change your profile pic to whomever starts. Nice touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Steptide said: Unless Barkley is worse, which would take an awful lot i don't care anymore, so i'm not gonna read 5 pages of b.s. about nate. i was so excited about the direction this staff and team was headed, but it got to the point of embarrassment. mcd's handling of the qb gets worse by the week. the roster moves at wr are a joke. i guess if they are busy making moves constantly it's supposed to look like they know what they are doing. it's to the point that, if i had no access to the outer world, rex could still be coaching and i wouldn't know the difference. rex blindly dismantled a good defense and mcstaff blindly neutered an offense that at least could be average. now mcd has basically taken nathan peterman and has thrown him under the bus a few times and is fine with backing the bus up over him too. why start barkley?....why???...to see if he can be a b/u going forward? ummm yeah, he's going into his 5th year , not sure how many teams. is it to win games? ...maybe run the table and salvage the season? or is it to flat out tank and have no clue at qb going into the off season. this whole thing is a joke that ain't in any way funny. if he stuck to any thing that required testicles and rode with the qbs he had and was trying to evaluate or for the lack of a better term, develop someone, maybe he wouldn't be digging the hole even deeper for the national media to bury us in. as a 45 yr. fan of this team, i am more embarrassed than i was being stationed out west during the mid 80's. i can't believe all the b.s. roster moves. these guys just can't stop. are these guys boozers, users or what? it makes my head spin to watch this crap....not just the games, the everyday running of the team. it is out of control....which makes me less encouraged about the off season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: Allen in terms of QB. I absolutely agree that any QB needs pieces around him. I presume that will be the major focus this offseason. ...may be presumptuous Oldy.....they thought they were fielding a competitive product offensively to at least keep us marginally competitive....are they competent going forward?......stay tuned............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...may be presumptuous Oldy.....they thought they were fielding a competitive product offensively to at least keep us marginally competitive....are they competent going forward?......stay tuned............... i'm getting worried.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: You keep Kyle around as a mentor for the young talent you're bringing in and to keep the locker room together. I love how you change your profile pic to whomever starts. Nice touch. Not whoever. Not doing it with Peterman. I will support the guys that I like and that aren’t just a proven pit of garbage. I was appreciative of Anderson and feel good about what he did considering the circumstances. I’m sure it will be a 1 off with Barkley but oh well. Il show him a little support in hopes for the best 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, billsredneck1 said: i'm getting worried.... ...I'm in my foxhole....up periscope........can't bear to watch McCown "goin' to town"...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimS Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) Looking forward to watching him play. He was considered the front runner to back up Dalton before hurting his knee. I am hoping he shows decent "backup skills" and go with him and Josh the rest of the year. IR Derek, keep him around on the sideline and QB room for the season, and send "Peterson" to PS. One and two set for next year, bring in a late draft pick or an UDFA for PS, and QB is set for 2019/2020. Of course, it hinges on Josh's improvement, but this what I had hoped for, and now he rests for two weeks. Edited November 10, 2018 by JimS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Mcbeane said he made a mistake with the qb situation. Mcbeane should have also stated that there will always be 3 QBs in the building at all times going forward. This has been a laugh fest. Fortunately I've been streaming defenses playing the Bills for 3 weeks now. So I have that going for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Steptide said: Unless Barkley is worse, which would take an awful lot How could Barkley be worse than Peterman? A blind quadriplegic would be better than Peterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...I'm in my foxhole....up periscope........can't bear to watch McCown "goin' to town"...... i know , right? what a perfect piece to this season. instead of going and maybe rattling a rookie and grinding out a win, we get to face j.m. who will probably end up putting 4 bills on us in yet another blow out. it just keeps getting worse. i used to B word and complain about being out of it by thanksgiving, but this year is a nightmare....before halloween. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said: lol, my #1 QB in 2013. Would be funny if he lights it up. Mine too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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