Democratic 2020 Presidential Primary Thread

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[Deranged Rhino]

19 minutes ago, Mr Wild said:

 

Okay but is there ranking from least worst to worst?  Not that you will vote for them but just your feelings for them.  There must be ones you dislike more or less then the others.

 

Nope. They're all puppets for the same master. Why bother quibbling over which one has the best costume when they're ultimately the same?

 

Biden -- crooked, liar, involved deeply in Russia hoax and SpyGate

Steyer -- crooked, a liar, deeply involved in the occult, not to mention pushing Russia

Warren -- crooked, a liar, deeply involved in pushing the Russia hysteria and covering up for SpyGate

Klobachar -- a liar, deeply involved in fanning the flames of Russia and SpyGate

Buttigieg -- a liar, incompetent, a literal cut out for the same monied interests who pushed Russia. The second most dangerous candidate not named Sanders.

Gabbard -- voted for her in 2016, has been a tremendous disappointment these past 4 years and proved she's on this team, not the peoples'.

(All play for the same team)

 

Sanders -- a liar, dangerous ideologue with ideas that are detrimental to this country, deeply involved in fanning the flames of Russia and covering for SpyGate

(Plays for the same owner, just a different team)

 

***** them all. 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[KRC]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

Republican view:

 

OKAY

 

Gabbard

Patrick

Steyer

Biden

Klobacher

Buttigieg

Warren

Bloomberg

Sanders

 

NOT OKAY

 

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Following your lead. I did not know Patrick was even running and know nothing of his positions, so I left him off the list.

 

OKAY

Klobuchar

Steyer

Gabbard

Buttigieg

Biden

Bloomberg

Warren

Sanders

NOT OKAY

 

I wouldn't vote for any of them. I am wondering who the Libertarians are putting up. 

[US Egg]

Still think Bloomberg will be the nominee when all is said and done.

 

.....wonder if the Left will bellyache about Bloomberg buying the election like they did with Trump ?

[LeviF]

I only vote for candidates who will fully support and throw the US military behind the governor of Texas should he declare war on Mexico as a response to the invasion.

[Buffalo_Gal]

1 hour ago, Mr Wild said:

Okay I am not one of the normals on here so I have a question for all of you. Both Republicans and Democrats

 

Can you rank the 9 candidates left into who you would be okay with and who you absolutely dont.  I know both sides have there absolute nos and absolute yes but I am curious who the republicans on here are okay with and who the Democrats on here are leaning towards.

 

So list them out 1-9, pleases I just want a civil discussion I dont want people saying all no ones or everyone but trump.  Just I wanna know the list of prefrences.

Biden

Bloomberg

Buttigieg

Gabbard

Klobuchar

Patrick

Sanders

Steyer

Warren

 

Out of that list? I'd sit home. Tulsi is the only one close to normal (she has issues), but she has no chance at all. 

 

[reddogblitz]

4 hours ago, Foxx said:

Sanders, i won't say lost last night but he certainly didn't win. considering he was in his backyard and he barely eeked out a first, should be a big warning for him and the bros. all things considered, Buttigieg prolly got the win.

 

The person that gets the most delegates wins.  Pete won Iowa.  Bernie won NH.  It's not complicated.

[KD in CA]

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

New Hampshire Berns Down. 

 

“One thing is certain: Elizabeth Warren will soon be flipping through Hillary Clinton’s Book of Blame for excuses to explain away her myriad weaknesses as a candidate. Sexism will of course be Number 1 on the list, sure to be followed by ‘Something, something Trump,’ and the inherent patriarchal oppression spread through Tom and Jerry cartoons.”

 

 

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4th place with less than 10% of the vote in a state that is now half Masshole exports?   For all the attention on the other 3, that is by far the most telling result from the first two primaries.

[Tiberius]

2 hours ago, RochesterRob said:

  I believe that I addressed that when I said Presidents get either too much credit or too much blame for the economy.  A lot of the credit goes to the rank and file whether it be Obama or Trump in the White House.  You need to read up on the concept of irrational exuberance which implies the economy can be stimulated by factors such as emotion.  

Read what? You have a link that proves Trump has increased business confidence? 

 

I still say its luck. The international situation (our trade partners) are all doing really well, the red ink flowing like never before out of Washington is really juicing up the government spending and he has also lucked out that there have not been any surprises. We shall see 

[reddogblitz]

4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Read what? You have a link that proves Trump has increased business confidence? 

 

I still say its luck. The international situation (our trade partners) are all doing really well, the red ink flowing like never before out of Washington is really juicing up the government spending and he has also lucked out that there have not been any surprises. We shall see 

 

How long does Barack get to keep getting credit?   We're 37 months in.  I'll give Barack credit for what the economy did when he was president.  But that was then, this is now.  We're 3 years down the road.  Plenty of time for Donald to blow it if he was so inclined.

 

Sort of like saying Josh Allen is lucky because Tyrod built up a playoff team before he got here. Josh has just been lucky.

[3rdnlng]

10 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Read what? You have a link that proves Trump has increased business confidence? 

 

I still say its luck. The international situation (our trade partners) are all doing really well, the red ink flowing like never before out of Washington is really juicing up the government spending and he has also lucked out that there have not been any surprises. We shall see 

HAHA Gator, you are fullofshit.

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

How long does Barack get to keep getting credit?   We're 37 months in.  I'll give Barack credit for what the economy did when he was president.  But that was then, this is now.  We're 3 years down the road.  Plenty of time for Donald to blow it if he was so inclined.

 

Sort of like saying Josh Allen is lucky because Tyrod built up a playoff team before he got here. Josh has just been lucky.

How about no credit? He was president, not God. 

 

Bush/Obama handled the financial crisis, but the world economy was slow when he was prez, for most part. Now its good. 

Just now, 3rdnlng said:

HAHA Gator, you are fullofshit.

As if. 

 

Go play with your tinker toys you idiot 

[B-Man]

2 hours ago, Mr Wild said:

Okay I am not one of the normals on here so I have a question for all of you. Both Republicans and Democrats

 

Can you rank the 9 candidates left into who you would be okay with and who you absolutely dont.  I know both sides have there absolute nos and absolute yes but I am curious who the republicans on here are okay with and who the Democrats on here are leaning towards.

 

So list them out 1-9, pleases I just want a civil discussion I dont want people saying all no ones or everyone but trump.  Just I wanna know the list of prefrences.

Biden

Bloomberg

Buttigieg

Gabbard

Klobuchar

Patrick

Sanders

Steyer

Warren

 

 

 

So no one on the left here wants to take on our guest's inquiry ?

 

Thats rather telling.

 

 

One less on the list anyway, as Deval Patrick just dropped out..................?

 

 

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Edited February 12, 2020 by B-Man

[3rdnlng]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

How about no credit? He was president, not God. 

 

Bush/Obama handled the financial crisis, but the world economy was slow when he was prez, for most part. Now its good. 

As if. 

 

Go play with your tinker toys you idiot 

The international community is not doing really well, you idiot.

[Tiberius]

5 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

The international community is not doing really well, you idiot.

Shut up stupid 

[US Egg]

2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

So list them out 1-9, pleases I just want a civil discussion I dont want people saying all no ones or everyone but trump.  Just I wanna know the list of preferences.

Biden

Bloomberg

Buttigieg

Gabbard

Klobuchar

Patrick

Sanders

Steyer

Warren

Maybe a conversation worth having when it gets down to the final four, but not now. 

 

(Bloomberg, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Sanders ?) 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

4 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

Don’t forget he flew in a helicopter with Obama pointing at maps. That’s gotta be good for something right?  

Oh sorry.  I spoke too soon.  You like him because he has lots of money and good commercials?  And because his message is “Trump must go!”?  Lordy those are great reasons to put him in charge. ?

In 2016 he wrote in for GoDaddy.com.  

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

I would point out to my fellow conservatives, that I did my rankings, not on any type of personal preference, I do not think any of them deserve to be president

 

But I ranked them in order of who I think would do the least damage to the country.

 

Try it that way.

 

Still waiting on a lib's take.

 

You're dead to us.  I'm PMing everyone to shun you.

[Nanker]

1 hour ago, I am the egg man said:

Still think Bloomberg will be the nominee when all is said and done.

 

.....wonder if the Left will bellyache about Bloomberg buying the election like they did with Trump ?

The far left - which is the most energized part of the Dem's base will stay home. They absolutely will not support Bloomberg's buying the nomination. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[CoudyBills]

Anyone have video footage of the 100k Ukranians Trump funneled into NH to vote for him?

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, CoudyBills said:

Anyone have video footage of the 100k Ukranians Trump funneled into NH to vote for him?

Found it. 

[Nanker]

4 minutes ago, CoudyBills said:

Anyone have video footage of the 100k Ukranians Trump funneled into NH to vote for him?

 

Here's another, shot just after they were dressed in civilian clothes.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

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[LB3]

23 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Bulwark?

[reddogblitz]

19 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

The Swift Boating of Mayor Pete is officially under way.

 

Right wingers love the military and veterans until s/he is running for prez for the Ds.

 

If Tulsi were to get into contention, she'd get the same treatment.

 

I like you DR and a lot of what you post, but this is pathetic IMHO.

[Deranged Rhino]

10 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

The Swift Boating of Mayor Pete is officially under way.

 

Right wingers love the military and veterans until s/he is running for prez for the Ds.

 

If Tulsi were to get into contention, she'd get the same treatment.

 

I like you DR and a lot of what you post, but this is pathetic IMHO.

 

It was posted more for Rob's comment which I found funny.  

 

But how much have you looked into Pete's service? He pushed paper working intel on a special assignment (he didn't have to do basic, got to pick his deployment). There's nothing wrong with pushing paper, and certainly nothing wrong with serving (even if, in Pete's case, it was done purely to have on his resume to run for higher office) -- but clearly you understand why those who were in combat get irked when Pete talks about being a combat vet. You served, in wartime, you know better than I ever will I suspect.

 

 

[BuffaloHokie13]

20 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

The Swift Boating of Mayor Pete is officially under way.

 

Right wingers love the military and veterans until s/he is running for prez for the Ds.

 

If Tulsi were to get into contention, she'd get the same treatment.

 

I like you DR and a lot of what you post, but this is pathetic IMHO.

Can you imagine the heads exploding if:

Trump gave Tulsi a Foreign Affairs/Military consulting position? 

Trump gave Yang an Economic consulting position? 

Trump gave Bernie a prison reform consulting position? <- that's a gulag joke, btw 

[IDBillzFan]

41 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

The Swift Boating of Mayor Pete is officially under way.

 

Right wingers love the military and veterans until s/he is running for prez for the Ds.

 

If Tulsi were to get into contention, she'd get the same treatment.

 

I like you DR and a lot of what you post, but this is pathetic IMHO.

 

Mayor Pete is a military vet like Elizabeth Warren is an Indian. 

 

Pete's military experience is the equivalent of a participation trophy, which is why veterans who truly served this country are mocking the schitt out of him.

 

He does the unthinkable; he makes Michael Dukakis look like he can actually drive a tank.

 

One day you leftists are going to be able to acknowledge unforced errors.

 

Next thing you know, you'll start explaining how great it was for Warren to take the last few bucks of a broke college student. 

 

EDITOR'S NOTE: No one worth their salt would criticize Tulsi's service because it very easy to see it wasn't fake...like Pete's.

Edited February 12, 2020 by IDBillzFan

[Nanker]

 

Phony as a three dollar bill

"But Mr. Buttigieg’s stint in the Navy isn’t as impressive as he makes it out to be. His 2019 memoir is called “Shortest Way Home,” an apt description of his military service. He entered the military through a little-used shortcut: direct commission in the reserves. The usual route to an officer’s commission includes four years at Annapolis or another military academy or months of intense training at Officer Candidate School. ROTC programs send prospective officers to far-flung summer training programs and require military drills during the academic year. Mr. Buttigieg skipped all that—no obstacle courses, no weapons training, no evaluation of his ability or willingness to lead. Paperwork, a health exam and a background check were all it took to make him a naval officer.

 

He writes that his reserve service “will always be one of the highlights of my life, but the price of admission was an ongoing flow of administrativia.” That’s not how it’s supposed to work. The paperwork isn’t the price of admission but the start of a long, grueling test. 

 

Combat veterans have grumbled for decades about the direct-commission route. The politically connected and other luminaries who receive immediate commissions are disparaged as “pomeranian princes.” Former Trump chief of staff Reince Priebus became a Naval Reserve officer in 2018 at age 46. Hunter Biden, son of the former vice president, accepted a direct commission but was discharged after one month of service for failing a drug test."

 

More at the link.

 

And IDBillzFan is right - no one here would criticize Tulsi's service because it was genuine.

[keepthefaith]

4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Nope. They're all puppets for the same master. Why bother quibbling over which one has the best costume when they're ultimately the same?

 

Biden -- crooked, liar, involved deeply in Russia hoax and SpyGate

Steyer -- crooked, a liar, deeply involved in the occult, not to mention pushing Russia

Warren -- crooked, a liar, deeply involved in pushing the Russia hysteria and covering up for SpyGate

Klobachar -- a liar, deeply involved in fanning the flames of Russia and SpyGate

Buttigieg -- a liar, incompetent, a literal cut out for the same monied interests who pushed Russia. The second most dangerous candidate not named Sanders.

Gabbard -- voted for her in 2016, has been a tremendous disappointment these past 4 years and proved she's on this team, not the peoples'.

(All play for the same team)

 

Sanders -- a liar, dangerous ideologue with ideas that are detrimental to this country, deeply involved in fanning the flames of Russia and covering for SpyGate

(Plays for the same owner, just a different team)

 

***** them all. 

 

 

For Biden you forgot to mention accepting million$ in campaign contributions and running a deliberate campaign of failure.  Committing a fraud on his donors.  How else do you explain the crazy ***** he says and the feckless debate performances?

[SoCal Deek]

3 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Read what? You have a link that proves Trump has increased business confidence? 

 

Oh come on.  You need a link to know that businesses like a pro-business President in the White House? Do you need a link to know that the sun's coming up in the east every morning?  Step away from the internet for a second and open your eyes.

[US Egg]

2 hours ago, Nanker said:

The far left - which is the most energized part of the Dem's base will stay home. They absolutely will not support Bloomberg's buying the nomination. 

Maybe the hatred of Trump by the Hillary pouters has subsided and the ABT movement is mostly a media narrative that's in lock step with their elected Washington political constituency.

 

I'd say that bunch would dance with the devil to beat Trump....but she lost in 2016.

[Foxx]

4 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

The person that gets the most delegates wins.  Pete won Iowa.  Bernie won NH.  It's not complicated.

lol. it's not hard to understand that in '16 Sanders took 60% of the vote home against the Hilldog who got a touch less than 38%. that he could only garner 25.7% against a relative unknown who got 24.4% of the vote says Sanders might be in trouble. again, Buttigeig won. they both got 9 delegates .

 

try to keep up. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

2 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

The Swift Boating of Mayor Pete is officially under way.

 

Right wingers love the military and veterans until s/he is running for prez for the Ds.

 

If Tulsi were to get into contention, she'd get the same treatment.

 

I like you DR and a lot of what you post, but this is pathetic IMHO.

 

...I'd bet he was under sniper fire just like Hilary....dual heroes..........

[/dev/null]

2 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

The Swift Boating of Mayor Pete is officially under way.

 

Right wingers love the military and veterans until s/he is running for prez for the Ds.

 

If Tulsi were to get into contention, she'd get the same treatment.

 

I like you DR and a lot of what you post, but this is pathetic IMHO.

 

So I was never in the service but have several friends who were.  There were pics floating around the internet of Buttigeig holding an M4 that one of my friends commented that PB looked like a tourist posing with a gun

[B-Man]

 

 

ROGER SIMON: Could Mayor Pete Secretly Be More Radical Than Bernie?

 

 

 

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