Kelly the Dog Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 This thread is hopefully only for the discussion of its title. I am going to assume, not matter what we hear out of McD's mouth, that he and Beane are going to waive Nate in a week or two and then sign him to the PS. I understand waiting a week or more to get Anderson up to speed on the offense but I wouldn't do it myself. Nor would I sign him to the PS but that's a different topic. Keeping three QBs, when Peterman is one of them makes zero sense to me, and hopefully you. There is no way a team is going to pick up Peterman up and place them on their 53. If we want him on our PS to run the scout team and whatever other twisted reason for the bromance we can have him. There is also no way that we are going to have three QBs active on gameday. Zero. So either Nate or Derek will be in civvies and not eligible. If they somehow come to the unimaginable conclusion that Nate is going to be that guy, and Anderson will be ineligible, why wouldn't you just hire a smarter recently retired or unsigned ex-NFL QB as an assistant QB coach for half the money and have him stand on the sidelines with Josh, parceling out his morsels of wisdom instead of Anderson? If Josh gets hurt and Nate is forced into the game we can all pretty much change the channel or leave the sports bar or stadium. If he is going to be inactive, why the hell have him on the 53-man roster when you could put another WR or S or CB or ST guy on there? It makes no sense. The only reason to keep three QBs active in today's NFL, especially with the new PS rules, is because you have a potential stud young guy as a #3 and you would lose him if he is waived. We don't. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 we have no reason to keep Peterman Logan Thomas should be the emergency QB anyway. I'd have cut Peterman and kept Marlowe. We need DBs. They actually play. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 31 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Good question. I have no answer for that as keeping NP on the 53 makes no sense to me. 4 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Yeah. Same here. Three QBs on a roster that needs help elsewhere makes no sense to me with Peterman likely inactive on game days. My thoughts as expressed elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 cut Peterman end of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) IMHO I don't care, the more the merrier. JMO but DA is a very short term answer. People can Hate on Nate all they want. DA is a mentor, a guy with experience who can help the young kids along. (there's a reason McD has kept Nate on the roster - your guess is as good as mine) I'm sure much has been said in the DA has been signed thread. Edited October 9, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: IMHO I don't care, the more the merrier. JMO but DA is a very short term answer. Why is he a very short term answer? If Josh Allen is our guy, keep DA as a mentor for as long as he's needed. He loved mentoring Cam. This can be the same situation. I wouldn't mind if he hung around for a year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: (there's a reason McD has kept Nate on the roster - your guess is as good as mine) The only one that makes any real sense is sadomasochism. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 It's a week two at a pretty big stretch. They brought Anderson for the rest of the season him missing one out of the 11 remaining not a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike147 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 There is no reason to keep Nathan Peterman on the active roster. Our front office spent big on drafting Josh Allen to be the face of our franchise for the next decade plus. There will be no quarterback competition because Allen is "the guy". So the backup quarterback primarily needs to be a veteran that can help mentor our young starter, while providing the ability to step in and play to a viable level if required. Derek Anderson fits the bill. He was the backup to Cam Newton since Cam came into the league, and he's a decent choice to backup Josh Allen. I guess there is an argument that Nathan Peterman is a young second year quarterback that could potentially develop into something down the line, but even that is a hard sell based on his starts with us. He was downright terrible and realistically is no better than a third string quarterback. The best he can hope for is to land on a team's practice squad or depth chart so they can coach him up into a backup QB role, but I don't see the need for us to be holding him on our active roster when we've already got our future quarterback on the books. For me, cut Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, Warcodered said: It's a week two at a pretty big stretch. They brought Anderson for the rest of the season him missing one out of the 11 remaining not a big deal. Totally agree. I fear that he is going to keep three after Anderson is ready. When we need help in several areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: Why is he a very short term answer? If Josh Allen is our guy, keep DA as a mentor for as long as he's needed. He loved mentoring Cam. This can be the same situation. I wouldn't mind if he hung around for a year or two. Why is DA has a short term answer? Whats he done lately? What was he doing all of September? He is 35. He has a 20-27 record over 12 NFL seasons, and won just a pair of starts in 2014 in Cam's place. Bills sign QB Derek Anderson to mentor rookie Josh Allen https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/article219722760.html BY JOHN WAWROW Edited October 9, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: Totally agree. I fear that he is going to keep three after Anderson is ready. When we need help in several areas. With his track record with Peterman I get the fear but I really doubt it he's way too focused on defense to keep 3 QBs on the 53. Also with who is the backup gameday I'd say Peterman isn't even guaranteed that he's number two right now but wait and see how Anderson picks up the offense and that could change pretty quick or at least by Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: Why is DA has a short term answer? Whats he done lately? What was he doing all of September? He is 35. He has a 20-27 record over 12 NFL seasons Bills sign QB Derek Anderson to mentor rookie Josh Allen https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/article219722760.html BY JOHN WAWROW 3 Depends on your definition of short term. He's probably on a one year trial basis (not contract). If at the end of the year the team in consultation with Josh thinks it was very helpful he probably gets another year. if they don't, AND a decent veteran backup is available who is willing to play behind a young starter then they sign that guy in FA on the cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 They screwed this entire thing up from jump. Because if the Nathan Peterman love by this FO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: They screwed this entire thing up from jump. Because if the Nathan Peterman love by this FO It's weirder than Billy Bob Thorton marrying Angelina Jolie at her hottest. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Why is DA has a short term answer? Whats he done lately? What was he doing all of September? He is 35. He has a 20-27 record over 12 NFL seasons, and won just a pair of starts in 2014 in Cam's place. Bills sign QB Derek Anderson to mentor rookie Josh Allen https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/article219722760.html BY JOHN WAWROW Another year or so is definitely possible if he's willing and nothing else better/more convenient shows up. Next year they have a lot of holes to fill and if back-up QB can be removed/delayed from that list all the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I really hope this is just a matter of waiting until the vet QB is up to speed as the clipboard holder and then Peterman is either cut or moved to practice squad...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 24 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: we have no reason to keep Peterman Logan Thomas should be the emergency QB anyway. I'd have cut Peterman and kept Marlowe. We need DBs. They actually play. Agreed. Let DA get up to speed for a couple of weeks, then cut Peterman, and if you still want him sign him to the practice squad to run prep team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) I thought this was a thread to discuss the title... which I find very pleasing; short and to the point. I don't buy the idea that DA would need to get up to speed in order to be more effective than NP... HE HAD A 0.0 QBR FOR THE FIRST HALF OF THE CHARGERS GAME FOR CRYIN' OUT LOUD. Once DA passed his physical and signed his contract NP should've been out the door. Someone should start a vicious rumor that NP's an atheist... betcha that'd seal his fate. Edited October 9, 2018 by transient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 We have to cut Peterman. Great guy but unfortunately not the QB we are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said: Depends on your definition of short term. He's probably on a one year trial basis (not contract). If at the end of the year the team in consultation with Josh thinks it was very helpful he probably gets another year. if they don't, AND a decent veteran backup is available who is willing to play behind a young starter then they sign that guy in FA on the cheap. Short is 1 year maybe 2. By year 3 JA had better gotten a grasp on playing QB in the big league. 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Another year or so is definitely possible if he's willing and nothing else better/more convenient shows up. Next year they have a lot of holes to fill and if back-up QB can be removed/delayed from that list all the better. Agree ? Or close enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Does anyone know if Anderson can hold on FGs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: IMHO I don't care, the more the merrier. JMO but DA is a very short term answer. People can Hate on Nate all they want. DA is a mentor, a guy with experience who can help the young kids along. (there's a reason McD has kept Nate on the roster - your guess is as good as mine) I'm sure much has been said in the DA has been signed thread. DA might not be as short term as you think. He is 35. He may have 3-5 yrs left, especially if he is not absorbing punishment like Brady and Brees. He could be a Fitz for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 18 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: Does anyone know if Anderson can hold on FGs? Poyer is actually the backup holder fwiw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) Peterman needs to be cut NOW!! no excuses. Get this loser off the team. no more special favors. Edited October 9, 2018 by COTC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 McBeane believes in their Draft picks -to a fault. Frankly, many seem to be paying off in the 2year. Peterman is the exception. He baffled everyone in preseason and had the best showing. But when the lights went up, he shrunk for the 3rd straight time. I expect him gone as soon as DA is up to speed and the next big injury hits, needing a new replacement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) If Peterman is PS eligible then I can see him getting cut and put on there once DA is up to speed. Don't really see many teams licking their chops for him. If DA can mentor Allen enough to get things going this year then I can see Peterman as the backup or 3rd next year. Edited October 9, 2018 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty the Dustmop Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Everyone including McBeane and McClappy loves them some Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 This signing is a clear indication that Nate is gone. For now, Derek Anderson is a great signing. He's been around a lot of clubs and has a ton of knowledge to groom Josh Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I would have cut Peterman in February but what do I know. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 3 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Why is DA has a short term answer? Whats he done lately? What was he doing all of September? He is 35. He has a 20-27 record over 12 NFL seasons, and won just a pair of starts in 2014 in Cam's place. Bills sign QB Derek Anderson to mentor rookie Josh Allen https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/article219722760.html BY JOHN WAWROW Your first 4 don't matter. We don't need him to actually play football (hopefully). Just a mentor. He's basically another coach, and if he had to actually go in, he'd be serviceable. But, again, Josh seems durable (like Cam), and just needs a sounding board. you can't come off the field after a tough drive and get input from nathan (0.0 rating) peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Nate is a scrub. He is still on this team so that McBeane avoids egg on their faces for starting him. He was a scrub. He is a scrub. He will be a scrub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: This thread is hopefully only for the discussion of its title. I am going to assume, not matter what we hear out of McD's mouth, that he and Beane are going to waive Nate in a week or two and then sign him to the PS. I understand waiting a week or more to get Anderson up to speed on the offense but I wouldn't do it myself. Nor would I sign him to the PS but that's a different topic. Keeping three QBs, when Peterman is one of them makes zero sense to me, and hopefully you. There is no way a team is going to pick up Peterman up and place them on their 53. If we want him on our PS to run the scout team and whatever other twisted reason for the bromance we can have him. There is also no way that we are going to have three QBs active on gameday. Zero. So either Nate or Derek will be in civvies and not eligible. If they somehow come to the unimaginable conclusion that Nate is going to be that guy, and Anderson will be ineligible, why wouldn't you just hire a smarter recently retired or unsigned ex-NFL QB as an assistant QB coach for half the money and have him stand on the sidelines with Josh, parceling out his morsels of wisdom instead of Anderson? If Josh gets hurt and Nate is forced into the game we can all pretty much change the channel or leave the sports bar or stadium. If he is going to be inactive, why the hell have him on the 53-man roster when you could put another WR or S or CB or ST guy on there? It makes no sense. The only reason to keep three QBs active in today's NFL, especially with the new PS rules, is because you have a potential stud young guy as a #3 and you would lose him if he is waived. We don't. That's my thinking too, Peterman will stay on the roster until Anderson knows the offense and/or some short term 2 to 3 week injuries hit forcing the Bills to make a move then he likely will get cut. Can't see the Bills having three QB's active either on game day roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 47 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I would have cut Peterman in February but what do I know. You apparently don't know how to eat popcorn 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: This thread is hopefully only for the discussion of its title. I am going to assume, not matter what we hear out of McD's mouth, that he and Beane are going to waive Nate in a week or two and then sign him to the PS. I understand waiting a week or more to get Anderson up to speed on the offense but I wouldn't do it myself. Nor would I sign him to the PS but that's a different topic. Keeping three QBs, when Peterman is one of them makes zero sense to me, and hopefully you. There is no way a team is going to pick up Peterman up and place them on their 53. If we want him on our PS to run the scout team and whatever other twisted reason for the bromance we can have him. There is also no way that we are going to have three QBs active on gameday. Zero. So either Nate or Derek will be in civvies and not eligible. If they somehow come to the unimaginable conclusion that Nate is going to be that guy, and Anderson will be ineligible, why wouldn't you just hire a smarter recently retired or unsigned ex-NFL QB as an assistant QB coach for half the money and have him stand on the sidelines with Josh, parceling out his morsels of wisdom instead of Anderson? If Josh gets hurt and Nate is forced into the game we can all pretty much change the channel or leave the sports bar or stadium. If he is going to be inactive, why the hell have him on the 53-man roster when you could put another WR or S or CB or ST guy on there? It makes no sense. The only reason to keep three QBs active in today's NFL, especially with the new PS rules, is because you have a potential stud young guy as a #3 and you would lose him if he is waived. We don't. The topic of 3 Quarterbacks was discussed at length in the middle of Hour 3 of Schopp and Bulldog today. Schopp thought keeping Nate as a 3rd QB was nuts. Bulldog said something like "we cut our most experienced WR the day before Allen's first start b/c we needed an extra DT b/c it was going to be hot out. If that is how you are going to handle your roster, game to game, the luxury of a 3rd QB who has failed so spectacularly is absurd." https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/10-09-hr-3-schopp-bulldog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Wiz said: You apparently don't know how to eat popcorn You know how bad burnt popcorn is? NP is worse than burnt popcorn. Just now, Fadingpain said: The topic of 3 Quarterbacks was discussed at length in the middle of Hour 3 of Schopp and Bulldog today. Schopp thought keeping Nate as a 3rd QB was nuts. Bulldog said something like "we cut our most experienced WR the day before Allen's first start b/c we needed an extra DT b/c it was going to be hot out. If that is how you are going to handle your roster, game to game, the luxury of a 3rd QB who has failed so spectacularly is absurd." https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/10-09-hr-3-schopp-bulldog I have yet to see anyone come up with even a half-assed reason for it. It's insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: This thread is hopefully only for the discussion of its title. I am going to assume, not matter what we hear out of McD's mouth, that he and Beane are going to waive Nate in a week or two and then sign him to the PS. I understand waiting a week or more to get Anderson up to speed on the offense but I wouldn't do it myself. Nor would I sign him to the PS but that's a different topic. Keeping three QBs, when Peterman is one of them makes zero sense to me, and hopefully you. There is no way a team is going to pick up Peterman up and place them on their 53. If we want him on our PS to run the scout team and whatever other twisted reason for the bromance we can have him. There is also no way that we are going to have three QBs active on gameday. Zero. So either Nate or Derek will be in civvies and not eligible. If they somehow come to the unimaginable conclusion that Nate is going to be that guy, and Anderson will be ineligible, why wouldn't you just hire a smarter recently retired or unsigned ex-NFL QB as an assistant QB coach for half the money and have him stand on the sidelines with Josh, parceling out his morsels of wisdom instead of Anderson? If Josh gets hurt and Nate is forced into the game we can all pretty much change the channel or leave the sports bar or stadium. If he is going to be inactive, why the hell have him on the 53-man roster when you could put another WR or S or CB or ST guy on there? It makes no sense. The only reason to keep three QBs active in today's NFL, especially with the new PS rules, is because you have a potential stud young guy as a #3 and you would lose him if he is waived. We don't. Didn't we have three QBs active on game day last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 37 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Nate is a scrub. He is still on this team so that McBeane avoids egg on their faces for starting him. He was a scrub. He is a scrub. He will be a scrub. So, are you saying you don’t think he’s a candidate for the Wall of Fame? All this vague talk leaves me confused.... Congrats to Derek for finding a few million more to stick in the retirement fund to (hopefully) just hold a clipboard and play mentor. Well, done, sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: Didn't we have three QBs active on game day last year? We only had 2 on our roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Didn't we have three QBs active on game day last year? Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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