Billsfanatic8989 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Disclaimer: The following question is assuming Brady retires. My guess is this is it for him. Just a gut feeling. Then again, they may not be an automatic lock to win the division with the current roster as is. Nevertheless, the below question is geared toward 2019 and beyond. Jets have the franchise QB, yet are lacking alot in other areas. Dolphins offense is a concern, yet they have good defensive pieces. So out of the Fins and Jets, which one will we be competing with most for the division moving forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPappy Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 As of right now i would say the Fins, but the Jets are going to be very competitive in the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Everyone. We have to play great games to beat any of them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 I think, in a few years, the AFCE will go from one great team and three crappy teams to three great teams and one crappy team (NE). I also think that - long term - the Jets and Bills will have an awesome rivalry and they will be the two teams who battle it out each year for the top spot. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Jets The Jets and Bills are the teams positioning themselves for 2020 and beyond. The Jets are a little ahead of the Bills at this point but that can turn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) ....too early presently.......can't count out the Pats....."wounded animals" are dangerous........how many times in recent years has the 6 foot hole been dug with tombstones and topsoil ordered?......not sure about Fins sustainability over the entire season........Darnold kid has talent but Bowles?...meh.......bowles movement.........AFCE parity longer term though............ Edited September 26, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfanatic8989 Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Gugny said: I think, in a few years, the AFCE will go from one great team and three crappy teams to three great teams and one crappy team (NE). I also think that - long term - the Jets and Bills will have an awesome rivalry and they will be the two teams who battle it out each year for the top spot. Agreed. Unless the Patriots find a stud QB, they're screwd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 19 minutes ago, Billsfanatic8989 said: Disclaimer: The following question is assuming Brady retires. My guess is this is it for him. Just a gut feeling. Then again, they may not be an automatic lock to win the division with the current roster as is. Nevertheless, the below question is geared toward 2019 and beyond. Jets have the franchise QB, yet are lacking alot in other areas. Dolphins offense is a concern, yet they have good defensive pieces. So out of the Fins and Jets, which one will we be competing with most for the division moving forward? Darnold has a penchant for turnovers. Turnovers will kill you in the NFL. If that doesn't change it wont matter how many yards he throws for, the Jets will not be any better than a 9 win team most years. 9 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....too early presently.......can't count out the Pats....."wounded animals" are dangerous........how many times in recent years has the 6 foot hole been dug with tombstones and topsoil ordered?......not sure about Fins sustainability over the entire season........Darnold kid has talent but Bowles?...meh.......bowles movement.........AFCE parity longer term though............ Pats will still win the division most likely this year. I don't buy the Miami hype at this point. Jets are OK their D can play with anyone at times but their offense isn't anything special and Darnold still turns the ball over too much just like he did in college. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Darnold has a penchant for turnovers. Turnovers will kill you in the NFL. If that doesn't change it wont matter how many yards he throws for, the Jets will not be any better than a 9 win team most years. Pats will still win the division most likely this year. I don't buy the Miami hype at this point. Jets are OK their D can play with anyone at times but their offense isn't anything special and Darnold still turns the ball over too much just like he did in college. ....I'd say that's a pretty fair assessment......damn Pats always seem to find a way.......ONLY exception was going a formidable 11-5 with Cassell when Brady went down and missing the playoffs.....astonishing.......14 AFCE titles is absurd but earned (DAMMIT)............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 24 minutes ago, Gugny said: I think, in a few years, the AFCE will go from one great team and three crappy teams to three great teams and one crappy team (NE). I also think that - long term - the Jets and Bills will have an awesome rivalry and they will be the two teams who battle it out each year for the top spot. Totally agree. The way I see it, the AFCE could become a division similar to the AFCN of recent memory. Bills and Jets vying for top dog each year in a tense rivalry (Ravens and Steelers) with the Dolphins constantly in the mix and sometimes a bit better (Bengals) while the Pats* are miserable (Browns). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 The Jets are talking about firing their coach and GM which means starting over...again..for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Just now, Philo Beddoe said: Totally agree. The way I see it, the AFCE could become a division similar to the AFCN of recent memory. Bills and Jets vying for top dog each year in a tense rivalry (Ravens and Steelers) with the Dolphins constantly in the mix and sometimes a bit better (Bengals) while the Pats* are miserable (Browns). I would love for this to come to fruition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: The Jets are talking about firing their coach and GM which means starting over...again..for them. They are? Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, Philo Beddoe said: Totally agree. The way I see it, the AFCE could become a division similar to the AFCN of recent memory. Bills and Jets vying for top dog each year in a tense rivalry (Ravens and Steelers) with the Dolphins constantly in the mix and sometimes a bit better (Bengals) while the Pats* are miserable (Browns). I dont see the Dolphins as being anything more than a 7-9 win team most years. I don't buy Tannehill as a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 I foresee a future high level of parity between all the AFCE (yes, even the Brady/Belichik-less New England will be in the mix). There won't be a team X or Y who will be the Bills nemesis year in and year out---like NE is now, and Miami was in the 70's. There will be no romantic old style rivalries in the age of parity where "it's hard to win in the NFL." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 This is tough, really good question man, we'll just have to wait and see and hopefully watch some real good football in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjones71 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Ourselves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 I think the Jets have some young cornerstone kinda players in place, as long as they continue to add good pieces around Darnold and we add to Allen it should make us the top 2 teams going forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabden Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 All of them. Marv Levy had several goals for every season, Win the division, win the conference, win the Super Bowl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, mabden said: All of them. Marv Levy had several goals for every season, Win the division, win the conference, win the Super Bowl. Division first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said: The Jets are talking about firing their coach and GM which means starting over...again..for them. Even if they are, that just means that the new guy will be walking into a great situation. Tons of cap room, some young talent, the Pats finally having to envision life post-Bill and Tom, etc. Think about it: the Rams didn’t miss Jeff Fisher. The Bears won’t miss John Fox. The exception to the rule: how dearly we miss Rex Ryan .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 3 hours ago, matter2003 said: I dont see the Dolphins as being anything more than a 7-9 win team most years. I don't buy Tannehill as a franchise QB. As long as the dolphins have a good running back tannehill is pretty good. He can't do it on his own though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 I would say Fins in 2019 but more Jets beyond that. Its time for NE to be in the cellar for a while. I bet both Tom and Bill retire at the end of this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) Ourselves. If Josh and the D continue to develop, and we win the TO battle every week, sky's the limit. Edited September 27, 2018 by Freddie's Dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Billsfanatic8989 said: Disclaimer: The following question is assuming Brady retires. My guess is this is it for him. Just a gut feeling. Then again, they may not be an automatic lock to win the division with the current roster as is. Nevertheless, the below question is geared toward 2019 and beyond. Jets have the franchise QB, yet are lacking alot in other areas. Dolphins offense is a concern, yet they have good defensive pieces. So out of the Fins and Jets, which one will we be competing with most for the division moving forward? Who said the Jets have a “franchise QB”? Darnold looks more like a bust, to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 5 hours ago, Billsfanatic8989 said: Disclaimer: The following question is assuming Brady retires. My guess is this is it for him. Just a gut feeling. Then again, they may not be an automatic lock to win the division with the current roster as is. Nevertheless, the below question is geared toward 2019 and beyond. Jets have the franchise QB, yet are lacking alot in other areas. Dolphins offense is a concern, yet they have good defensive pieces. So out of the Fins and Jets, which one will we be competing with most for the division moving forward? The Jets, Dolphins, and Patriots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfanatic8989 Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 20 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....I'd say that's a pretty fair assessment......damn Pats always seem to find a way.......ONLY exception was going a formidable 11-5 with Cassell when Brady went down and missing the playoffs.....astonishing.......14 AFCE titles is absurd but earned (DAMMIT)............ 15 since 2001 (9-7 & missed in 02. 11-5 & missed in 2008 without Brady). I think their "success" comes with an asterisk. First things, the division has been atrocious in that timeframe. Secondly, spygate & deflategate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 20 hours ago, mabden said: All of them. Marv Levy had several goals for every season, Win the division, win the conference, win the Super Bowl. And show off his vocabulary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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