Luka Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, dneveu said: He's got the goods. Quick release, gamer mentality, great arm. The pocket presence will develop in time - he had a few bail outs with penalties and luck. He'll make some mistakes here and there, but it doesn't seem like its going to phase him. Good for them. Now hopefully Josh Allen can start exhibiting some of the same stuff. Tough division. Considering 2 of KC/Den/LAC probably make it, they're probably playing for 1 wildcard in that division. Their schedule does them no favors either, as they don't get to play some of the weaker teams in the AFC, and the NFC south is pretty good so far this year. Their defense looks improved, and Mayfield was the shot in the arm that their offense needed. But they tied pitt when they probably should have won... and lost to NO when they probably should of won. A team making the playoffs off of a 0-16 season would probably need those games to go their way much like we did with tampa/atl/kc last year. Games we won in the 4th quarter. North is Steelers/Ravens/Bengals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 This place is so bipolar Remember last season when everyone thought Jimmy G was the next big thing and the Pat's were going to regret letting him go? How are the 49ers doing? Deshaun Watson was also going to be another great and then he got hurt. How are the Texans doing now with him back? People were throwing tantrums that the Bill's didnt make a move to get I front of the Jets after Darnolds amazing first game against the Lions, now everyone's laughing at the Jets because of Darnold Now Mayfield helps a team get their first win in almost 2 years, giving them 2 wins in 3 seasons, and we are talking about him like he is a future HOFer and the Browns are going to the playoffs..... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Luka said: North is Steelers/Ravens/Bengals... I'm aware - just saying i think 2 make it from the west. So if that iss the case, the north is playing for 2 spots between 4 teams. I don't know that they're going go get the 9-10 wins needed there with their schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Laughter is the best medicine isn’t this a bit of premature ejubilation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, dneveu said: I'm aware - just saying i think 2 make it from the west. So if that iss the case, the north is playing for 2 spots between 4 teams. I don't know that they're going go get the 9-10 wins needed there with their schedule. Ah, I see now. Read it too fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Mayfield looks great but let's not get crazy. Last night he was fortunate to have his team recover a strip sack fumble. He also hit a Jets DB right in the chest with a pass into the end zone that shoulda been picked off. So Baker could have easily turned the ball over twice which would have derailed the comeback for them. Things won't turn out as rosy in every game. That being said, Baker Mayfield proved that he was easily the #1 QB in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, zow2 said: Mayfield looks great but let's not get crazy. Last night he was fortunate to have his team recover a strip sack fumble. He also hit a Jets DB right in the chest with a pass into the end zone that shoulda been picked off. So Baker could have easily turned the ball over twice which would have derailed the comeback for them. Things won't turn out as rosy in every game. That being said, Baker Mayfield proved that he was easily the #1 QB in the draft. His receivers showed up there too in the 2nd half and made a few really nice catches. Landry pulling that 30 yarder down with a hand in his face is why they paid him the big bucks. Honestly happy Landry isn't in the division anymore. He doesn't seem to be limited to the way the fins used him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) Yeah, that was pretty phenomenal. I know everyone has been drooling over Allen's howitzer, but Mayfield has a bazooka. His passes have some serious zip, and he knows when to throw it on a rope and when to arc it in. It's rare to see a QB come in and show tremendous vision and "throw them open" accuracy, but he did it. Good for Cleveland. They've got a tier tier prospect. 13 minutes ago, dneveu said: Honestly happy Landry isn't in the division anymore. He doesn't seem to be limited to the way the fins used him at all. Yeah, me too! It seems strange that the Dolphins only put him on these really short routes. The guy has been very agile and explosive for years. While he may not be a guy you throw 50 yard bombs too, he certainly can do way more than catch 5 yard ins. Edited September 21, 2018 by TheElectricCompany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: Yeah, that was pretty phenomenal. I know everyone has been drooling over Allen's howitzer, but Mayfield has a bazooka. His passes have some serious zip, and I knows when to throw it on a rope and when to arc it in. It's rare to see a QB come in and show tremendous accuracy and field vision, but he did it. Good for Cleveland. They've got a tier tier prospect. Yeah, me too! It seems strange that the Dolphins only put him on these really short routes. The guy has been very agile and explosive for years. While he may not be a guy you throw 50 yard bombs too, he certainly can do way more than catch 5 yard ins. Adam Gase is one of those people who likes to throw a lot of really short passes/run the ball - then blow the top off the d when they cheat up. Just kind of his style i think - and it works with tannehill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 9 hours ago, K-9 said: Lot to be excited about in Cleveland for sure, but c'mon, lets not get too far ahead of our skis here. Mayfield is going to have some bad plays, series, games at times. It happens to all of them. Without question rookie qbs are going to be inconsistent. That's part of the learning process. But there was a stark contrast when watching TT and Mayfield play. The rookie qb has the accuracy and vision that allows you to run a pro offense. The hallmark of Mayfield's style of play is keeping the play alive and then as the defense breaks down make an accurate throw. How he played in college can be transferred to the pro game if it is done in a more limited and judicious basis. What was evident when Mayfield played (as the announcers repeatedly stated) his presence gave the offense a lift, including the running game. Because of that I don't see Hue going back to Taylor. I don't want to get carried away but with Mayfield as the starter the Browns become not an elite team but a team that can seriously compete on a regular basis. And that in itself is a quantum leap forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 I feel like Hue should be fired for NOT starting Mayfield from game 1. He clearly did not put his team in the best position to win games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 You just knew that somebody was going to start a thread anointing Mayfield as the next great thing. Let’s give the NFL a chance to catch up to this kid before we crown him.Could be a genuine flash in the pan. Amazing!Could be a genuine flash in the pan. Amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 How about Denzel Ward last night? He was fantastic! The Browns were roundly criticized for taking him with the 4th pick over Bradley Chubb but it looks like a good decision for them given how bad their secondary was last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: How about Denzel Ward last night? He was fantastic! The Browns were roundly criticized for taking him with the 4th pick over Bradley Chubb but it looks like a good decision for them given how bad their secondary was last season. How has he looked in the previous 2 games, ones where he wasnt playing against a QB who has a chance to break Petermans INTs in a half record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, apuszczalowski said: How has he looked in the previous 2 games, ones where he wasnt playing against a QB who has a chance to break Petermans INTs in a half record? He's done well in helping to make both Big Ben and Brees look pedestrian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Ward is no chump. He looks like a playmaker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 10 hours ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: Mayfield is the real deal. Defense is legit. Browns will win the North The coaching staff dynamics in Cleveland give me pause...not sure that they can put their individual egos aside for the good of the team—cutthroats at the coordinator spots and clueless at HC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He's done well in helping to make both Big Ben and Brees look pedestrian. Has it been him, or that defence as a whole though? I haven't really followed him much or heard anything to say it's because of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, jrober38 said: Mayfield is a stud. Underrated arm, elite accuracy, and in complete control of the offense. He's surrounded by weapons and couldn't have had a better debut with 200 yards in essentially a half of football. Arm Accuracy Complete control Football IQ Decisive Guts At this point in his development Allen has the arm & the guts. Let's hope that he has the football IQ that will allow him to develop the ability to control the offense and play decisively. Shame on McDermott for not supplying him with a mentor. Edited September 21, 2018 by Cripple Creek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Mayfield is the real deal. They would be 3-0 if he started day 1 most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Is that what this place and sports talk in general has become? Non stop hot takes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, SoTier said: I totally agree with your assessment of Mayfield. I'm usually very reluctant to jump on the bandwagons of young QBs because so many fail to continue to develop and become true franchise QBs, but Mayfield's performance against the Jets was absolutely amazing. I've never seen any rookie QB -- or any QB in his first start -- come into a game and simply take it over. I have no problem with the high opinions of Mayfield, but just because you haven't seen any rookie QB come into a game & simply take it over doesn't mean it hasn't happened before: Years ago a team was down to their 3rd string QB due to injuries & this 7th round rookie was forced into playing his 1st NFL game shortly after the game began. https://www.footballguys.com/05gamerecap-ram-12.php St. Louis Rams QB Marc Bulger was out with a shoulder injury, so enter QB Jamie Martin. If you blinked, you missed him, and then rubbed your eyes wondering who was under center for the Rams. Martin was under center for just the first two St. Louis series, and he was constantly under pressure from the Texans defense. Martin was sacked twice and attempted just three passes before he left the game with a concussion. As for Martin’s replacement, his name is Ryan Fitzpatrick, and he is a rookie from Harvard. This was his first NFL action, and he absolutely delivered. Fitzpatrick threw for over 300 yards and three touchdowns, throwing early and often to WRs Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt. Each receiver finished with a touchdown each, and Holt logged a season high ten catches for 130 yards. https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2005/11/27/fitzpatrick-leads-comeback-in-debut-houstonplaying/ HOUSTON—Playing in an NFL game was new to St. Louis Rams rookie quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick ’05. Coming back from a 21-point deficit wasn’t.The Rams’ third-stringer took over for injured backup Jamie Martin yesterday, then threw a 56-yard touchdown pass to Kevin Curtis in overtime to cap an improbable comeback and give the Rams a 33-27 win over the Houston Texans.The seventh-round pick and last year’s Ivy League Player of the Year stayed calm by thinking back to his freshman year and first college start, when he rallied the Crimson from a 21-0 halftime deficit for a 31-21 win over Dartmouth. At the time it was the biggest comeback in Harvard’s 128-year history.“I was actually thinking about that game,” Fitzpatrick said. “The biggest thing when you’re in those situations is you need to get everyone around you fired up.” Edited September 21, 2018 by Albany,n.y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: The three QB's I were banging on and on about the last three years were Goff, Mahomes and Mayfield. Glad to say I was right. I hated Mahomes but loved the other two. Obviously we had no shot at Goff or Mayfield, but we look pretty stupid right now for not picking Mahomes and then trading so much away to draft Allen a year later. Mahomes was a better prospect than Allen in pretty much every category. Edited September 21, 2018 by jrober38 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Lets see what Mayfield does going forward. Little easier coming into a game when you know Jets gameplanned for Taylor (ignoring the WRs and Middle of the field) than it will be when the DC gameplans for facing a real QB, one not afraid to make the harder throws unlike TT. Lets see that before we say Browns are going to playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, apuszczalowski said: This place is so bipolar Remember last season when everyone thought Jimmy G was the next big thing and the Pat's were going to regret letting him go? How are the 49ers doing? Deshaun Watson was also going to be another great and then he got hurt. How are the Texans doing now with him back? People were throwing tantrums that the Bill's didnt make a move to get I front of the Jets after Darnolds amazing first game against the Lions, now everyone's laughing at the Jets because of Darnold Now Mayfield helps a team get their first win in almost 2 years, giving them 2 wins in 3 seasons, and we are talking about him like he is a future HOFer and the Browns are going to the playoffs..... What would this board be without hot takes and over reactions though? And you gotta love the nuclear meltdown that happens after a bad loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Lets see what Mayfield does going forward. Little easier coming into a game when you know Jets gameplanned for Taylor (ignoring the WRs and Middle of the field) than it will be when the DC gameplans for facing a real QB, one not afraid to make the harder throws unlike TT. Lets see that before we say Browns are going to playoffs. I've heard this take quite a bit. "Wait until they get tape on them!". Sure, a defense can give you more complex looks, but if you're dealing with a QB who can stays calm and throws absolute lasers, not sure how you really combat that. You can limit them, but you can't shut them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, TheElectricCompany said: I've heard this take quite a bit. "Wait until they get tape on them!". Sure, a defense can give you more complex looks, but if you're dealing with a QB who can stays calm and throws absolute lasers, not sure how you really combat that. You can limit them, but you can't shut them down. I am not talking getting tape on Mayfield. More so seeing him face a defense that doesnt need to cover the middle lf the field because they are playing TT. I think mayfield will be fine and think Browns finally have a QB. But it is easier playing against a defense that Gameplanned against TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 39 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: 44 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He's done well in helping to make both Big Ben and Brees look pedestrian. Has it been him, or that defence as a whole though? I haven't really followed him much or heard anything to say it's because of him Lols. Tyrod plays defense too? Man that guy is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aristocrat Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 i think the saints loss haunts them and they miss by a game but the fans will be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, zow2 said: I feel like Hue should be fired for NOT starting Mayfield from game 1. He clearly did not put his team in the best position to win games. What was even worse was Hue saying in week 1 of camp that Tyrod was the starter. Why would you not wait to see what you had in both QBs through at least a couple preseason games before making that decision? Nobody was forcing him to make that announcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 11 hours ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: If the Browns don’t make the playoffs I will eat my shoe Which shoe? Just for the record...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 The Browns need 8 more wins to have a legit shot at making the playoffs. That schedule looks pretty rough. I'm not sure I would feel confident with them getting to 9-6-1 considering they've won 9 or more games twice since 1995. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 37 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: I've heard this take quite a bit. "Wait until they get tape on them!". Sure, a defense can give you more complex looks, but if you're dealing with a QB who can stays calm and throws absolute lasers, not sure how you really combat that. You can limit them, but you can't shut them down. How much tape is there on the GOAT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, jrober38 said: I hated Mayfield but loved the other two. Obviously we had no shot at Goff or Mayfield, but we look pretty stupid right now for not picking Mahomes and then trading so much away to draft Allen a year later. Mahomes was a better prospect than Allen in pretty much every category. Yeah I was pretty early on the Mahomes hype train. It was heartbreaking we didn't even look at him. I think the only QB we liked was Trubisky(I still think he'll turn out good) but it was just so obvious to see Mahomes was going to be a mega star. I wish BBMB was still up so I could show receipts. Before the season was over I created a thread saying he's going to go in the Top 10. This was when people were calling him a 3rd rounder. I'd feel a lot more confident in Josh Allen if he had the infrastructure around him. Great offensive coaches around him, a solid OL and weapons. Not to mention a year as redshirting. He doesn't have any of those luxuries so it's trial by fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 12 hours ago, McBean said: Goes to show you how bad Tyrod was. Now everybody sees that we weren’t crazy after all. that was a slightly less than average Tyrod performance last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 11 hours ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: My shoe. In my belly You better hope you are right otherwise it's a shoe in that you will be upset 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Bray Wyatt said: Is that what this place and sports talk in general has become? Non stop hot takes? I’m sorry, and what is an internet message board supposed to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: I’m sorry, and what is an internet message board supposed to be? Well this particular board is discussion about buffalo bills football. The hope being good ideas and information being exchanged among fans of said team to further their enjoyment and knowledge I fail to see how this thread does that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 15 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: I’m sorry, and what is an internet message board supposed to be? whatever you like, don't pay attention to creeps who try to control everybody, they are pathetic.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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