Bills vs. Ravens Postgame ?

[26CornerBlitz]

Following the Buffalo Bills' 47-3 drubbing given to them from the Baltimore Ravens, the quarterback question remains on everyone's mind. What should Sean McDermott do for Week Two, and is that different from what he will do? Plus, Joe Buscaglia and Matthew Fairburn take the defense to task for failing to be the thing to keep the team afloat after all these highly touted acquisitions. And hey, the first two official entrants in the 'Come on, Darlene!' bracket!

[Mango]

3 hours ago, Tatonka68 said:

60 million should get you at least 3 good linemen and WR who can get open.

 

We’llpay somebody about as good as Dareus, Dareus money. Somebody about as good as Cordy, Cordy money. And somebody about as good as Robert Woods or Sammy Watkins, their money. 

 

 

Then the rebuild will will be complete...got it. ??‍♂️

[Marv's Neighbor]

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[Jauronimo]

4 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

We’llpay somebody about as good as Dareus, Dareus money. Somebody about as good as Cordy, Cordy money. And somebody about as good as Robert Woods or Sammy Watkins, their money. 

 

 

Then the rebuild will will be complete...got it. ??‍♂️

Those guys will be "Process" guys though, fwiw.

 

Can anyone articulate the Process I've been hearing so much about?

[Cugalabanza]

6 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Those guys will be "Process" guys though, fwiw.

 

Can anyone articulate the Process I've been hearing so much about?

 

 

[StrikeParry]

28 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:

When you send a conga line of talented players out of town because they don’t have 100% buy in on your “process”, sinking your cap with dead money as a result, you end up sucking. 

 

The only hope we can have on this season is the lack of skill talent and offensive line talent doesn’t cause irreparable harm to Allen’s development. 

Trust the Process is a slogan. It’s nothing. It isn’t even original. It’s the football equivalent of “make america great again.” It’s empty language and we’d all do well to start ignoring it.

[The Frankish Reich]

6 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Those guys will be "Process" guys though, fwiw.

 

Can anyone articulate the Process I've been hearing so much about?

From a leaked memo, published by an anonymous "Senior Official" -

I. The Process.

A. Ensuring that we keep our jobs beyond 2019.

(a) Make playoffs at some time in 2017-19 so we can't be hit with "extended playoff drought into it's third decade" criticism.

(b) Then start frenetically making personnel moves to give the impression that there is some underlying theory. Hope no one notices old John Wooden aphorism, "Never confuse activity with achievement."

(c) Hitch wagon to mediocre college QB; when he becomes mediocre NFL starter, you will be hailed as a genius.

(d) Draft raw "project" 1st round QB for same reason as (c).

II. The Out.

A. If I.A.(a)-(d) fails, blame ownership.

[Bob in STL]

6 hours ago, StrikeParry said:

To be genuinely optimistic you have to believe that Beane knows what to do with all the upcoming cap space. Not sure why you whould trust him at this point; I sure don’t.

This past free agency there was not much out there that you wanted to spend too much money on, except for QBs and we whiffed on McCarron.  Nothing on OL.  The money spent on Star and Trent was not extravagant.  

 

Hoping for better pickings next year.  I don’t think we should even spend to the max next year.  Better to save to sign our drafted players and lock up a core from three drafts.  This is a not a fast rebuild, especially since they traded away all the talent from the Whaley/Nix regime. 

[Bob in STL]

3 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Thank you Capco for looking and replying!

 

As bad as that list is remember some of the older guys (and there is a lot of them) could retire.

Others will get signed by their original team.

And yet other will sign with non Buffalo Bills teams.

We could easily lose three OL starters to free agency and get even worse.  I figure we can play a rookie at Guard and/or RT next year if we get them in the first 3 rounds.   Hopefully we pick up a free agent Guard as well. 

 

Building depth will take time. 

[StrikeParry]

13 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

This past free agency there was not much out there that you wanted to spend too much money on, except for QBs and we whiffed on McCarron.  Nothing on OL.  The money spent on Star and Trent was not extravagant.  

 

Hoping for better pickings next year.  I don’t think we should even spend to the max next year.  Better to save to sign our drafted players and lock up a core from three drafts.  This is a not a fast rebuild, especially since they traded away all the talent from the Whaley/Nix regime. 

 Nothing on OL???? 

1 minute ago, StrikeParry said:

 Nothing on OL???? 

Never heard of Norwell I guess.

[Bob in STL]

Just now, StrikeParry said:

 Nothing on OL???? 

Yes, pretty much nothing.  Name all the really good Offensive Line free agents last year.  There was almost none.  

 

Pretty much every football program is talking about it.   Most teams have problems at OL.  The ones that don’t sign their guys.   

[That's No Moon]

1 hour ago, Chuck Wagon said:

When you send a conga line of talented players out of town because they don’t have 100% buy in on your “process”, sinking your cap with dead money as a result, you end up sucking. 

 

When you do that you are admitting your weakness as a coach.  You can't get the best out of those players so you give them away even though it makes the team demonstrably worse.  You then replace them with players you are comfortable with even though they aren't as good because they will buy in to your BS.  This is a tire fire and it's only going to get worse when these bozos finally run out of snake oil to sell they will have left the team completely devoid of talent but full of guys who respect the process.  You think the Sabres have been bad?  Just wait.

2 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

Yes, pretty much nothing.  Name all the really good Offensive Line free agents last year.  There was almost none.  

 

Pretty much every football program is talking about it.   Most teams have problems at OL.  The ones that don’t sign their guys.   

But, but, 1 trillion in cap space will fix this next year.  No?  Maybe the 5th round guard?

8 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

Building depth will take time. 

Beane and McDermott dig holes faster than just about anyone I've seen.

[26CornerBlitz]

Sal's Sticks: Bills at Ravens

 

On a 747 (WGR550) - Before I even get into the Sticks, I’ll tell you that yes, it was as miserable down on the field at M&T Bank Stadium as it may have appeared on television, and probably worse.  A constant rain, wet equipment, and of course, a game that was hard to watch no matter where you were standing.  At least from the Bills’ vantage point.  There’s not much I can write that went right, and too much I can specifically point to that went wrong.  So that’s how I had to construct the Sticks this week, starting, of course, with being behind them, which the Bills offense was all day:

 

BEHIND THE STICKS

 

The entire offense

Offensive Line

QB Nathan Peterman

WR Kelvin Benjamin

CB Phillip Gaines

First half defense

Three horrible special teams plays

 

AHEAD OF THE STICKS

 

RB/KR Marcus Murphy

Bills linebackers

Run defense

 

THE BIG PICTURE

If you’re of the mind that those who kept predicting the Bills will be one of the worst, if not the worst team in the league, were way out of line, Sunday wasn’t a good day to try and prove them wrong.  They certainly looked that way, and for the most part, in all three phases.  What was most disturbing to me was how uncompetitive the Bills were for most of the contest.  The Ravens basically did whatever they wanted, controlled both lines of scrimmage, and sometimes made it look easy even in the pouring rain.  It’s only one game and we’ve seen teams look great or awful year after year on opening weekend who then have a season that’s pretty much the opposite of that.  0-1 is 0-1 regardless if the score is 47-3 or 21-20.  It all looks the same in the standings.  But nothing the Bills did (or didn’t do) Sunday really instills much confidence that they’ll be much better next week when the Los Angeles Chargers come to Orchard Park.  Ah, the Chargers.  The team Nathan Peterman had his infamous first start against last year, throwing five interceptions.  Peterman will once again be a huge story throughout this week leading up to the playing the Chargers.  But this time it will be because head coach Sean McDermott has to decide if he will go back to him or launch the Josh Allen era two weeks into his rookie season.  The window of opportunity to turn to Allen may never be more wide open than it is right now.  Whether it’s the QB, personnel on offense or defense, or simply playing at a much higher level than they did in week one, something has to change fast and dramatically for the Bills, or those people who made those predictions are going to start looking a lot more right than wrong.

[BuffaloSol]

7 hours ago, Tatonka68 said:

100 million cap space should sign 3 good offensive lineman next year. This team is in 16 game preseason mode. Need to find someone who can catch the ball. How many drops??

There might not be 3 good lineman to choose from next year. 

[StrikeParry]

46 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

Yes, pretty much nothing.  Name all the really good Offensive Line free agents last year.  There was almost none.  

 

Pretty much every football program is talking about it.   Most teams have problems at OL.  The ones that don’t sign their guys.   

I already named one bro. 

 

I’m not doing basic googling for you. Do it yourself then apologize for being ignorant. There were elite linemen available last offseason.

Edited September 10, 2018 by StrikeParry

[26CornerBlitz]

McCoy: "Collectively we didn't do well" (3:35)

Bills RB LeSean McCoy spoke to the media following the team's game against the Ravens. McCoy discussed how the team will learn a lot about its character after their loss to the Ravens and how the team as a whole didn't perform up to their own expectations in the season opener.

[Boatdrinks]

40 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

When you do that you are admitting your weakness as a coach.  You can't get the best out of those players so you give them away even though it makes the team demonstrably worse.  You then replace them with players you are comfortable with even though they aren't as good because they will buy in to your BS.  This is a tire fire and it's only going to get worse when these bozos finally run out of snake oil to sell they will have left the team completely devoid of talent but full of guys who respect the process.  You think the Sabres have been bad?  Just wait.

But, but, 1 trillion in cap space will fix this next year.  No?  Maybe the 5th round guard?

Beane and McDermott dig holes faster than just about anyone I've seen.

I can’t disagree with this. The best coaches are able to handle a diverse group of personalities. The bloodletting of talent from the team has been remarkable. 

[StrikeParry]

3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

I can’t disagree with this. The best coaches are able to handle a diverse group of personalities. The bloodletting of talent from the team has been remarkable. 

Agreed. Moon nailed it. Problem is these tricks that McD always goes back to still work around here, because we’re still surrounded by rubes entranced with that fantasy of ‘old school football.’ It’s why people here, to this day, advocate “pounding the ball”... as if sticking with rex ryan’s version of offense is going to work any better now than it did two years ago. Check your calendar old timers, and check yourselves.

[Bob in STL]

29 minutes ago, StrikeParry said:

I already named one bro. 

 

I’m not doing basic googling for you. Do it yourself then apologize for being ignorant. There were elite linemen available last offseason.

Yeah let’s talk about ignorant.  I see you answered your own quote with Norwell, not mine.   

 

Do your own googling?   What a moron. LOL. 

 

Ha ha. 

[StrikeParry]

Just now, Bob in STL said:

Yeah let’s talk about ignorant.  I see you answered your own quote with Norwell, not mine.   

 

Do your own googling?   What a moron. LOL. 

 

Ha ha. 

I miss hit the quote button. But what about Norwell? You were the one saying there was no one out there. There’s one chief.

[Bob in STL]

1 minute ago, StrikeParry said:

I miss hit the quote button. But what about Norwell? You were the one saying there was no one out there. There’s one chief.

Not sure we could afford him and the two guys we signed on DL.  Yes, he would have helped.  Just don’t expect to find much OL help in free agency and expect to pay a premium.  

 

But hey, we got Bodine.  

 

 

[StrikeParry]

9 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

Not sure we could afford him and the two guys we signed on DL.  Yes, he would have helped.  Just don’t expect to find much OL help in free agency and expect to pay a premium.  

 

But hey, we got Bodine.  

 

 

What about Solder? Cap strapped and all that i get it I guess but aggressive spending would have helped that’s my only point. And I will grant that the Bills were in a unique position this offseason with regards to their OL, with the anchor center suffering a career ending chronic injury and the left guard going bonkers. But there were people out there to pay to help the line. How much they give Vontae? Gaines? Murphy? I’ll pass on those 3 and give all the money to one of those linemen.

[Kelly the Dog]

7 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Really, so using 1st round picks on Reinhart and Lehner is the same as the players Beane has drafted? And Murray didn't blow up the salary cap, he filled it with underperforming players. The proper comparison to Murray is Whaley. I'm not a huge Sabres fan but even I understand that.

Reinhart is really good.

7 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Peter King in his weekly appearance on British NFL coverage just called Peterman's starts last year at LA and today "the two worst showings by a Quarterback in recent NFL history." 

That's not true. He should have said "Since the introduction of the forward pass."

6 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Someone’s real name is Fernando Schmude??

That sounds like something you get from a defunct porn name generator. 

5 hours ago, MattM said:

Look at their rosters—those teams are stacked beyond the QB.  

Any of the top 25 QBs in the league could have done what Goff did last year. 

[Fadingpain]

3 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

Those guys will be "Process" guys though, fwiw.

 

Can anyone articulate the Process I've been hearing so much about?

I wouldn't be surprised if some of it involved accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior.

 

McD is a Jesus freak, Pegula is, and half the players in the NFL are as well.

 

When these guys say they met with a player and really liked him, that is probably code for the guy making some reference to Jesus playing an important role in his life.

 

 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Fadingpain said:

I wouldn't be surprised if some of it involved accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior.

 

McD is a Jesus freak, Pegula is, and half the players in the NFL are as well.

 

When these guys say they met with a player and really liked him, that is probably code for the guy making some reference to Jesus playing an important role in his life.

 

 

 

Well it's about time this Jesus fella stepped up then. Can he play guard? Or Center? Or Corner? Or Defensive Line? Or Wide Receiver? Or Quarterback? 

 

If not he sounds like he might not be of immediate assistance. 

[Aussie Joe]

Nate is big on JC...

 

Doesn’t seem to help him on the field...

Edited September 10, 2018 by Aussie Joe

[dave mcbride]

1 hour ago, Fadingpain said:

I wouldn't be surprised if some of it involved accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior.

 

McD is a Jesus freak, Pegula is, and half the players in the NFL are as well.

 

When these guys say they met with a player and really liked him, that is probably code for the guy making some reference to Jesus playing an important role in his life.

 

 

Agreed. This aspect of McDermott has always worried me about him.

[row_33]

Despite all the mud throwing and laughter at the Ravens all the past week on TSW....

 

they have a very good coach that always preps his team

 

they have a franchise QB that has probably been highly overrated at times, but he still is good and will feast on a team that isn’t going to contain him

 

they play hard at home, take huge pride in their D, which has clearly been better in past years, but they still bring it

 

it wasn’t the road trip that would be forgiving to any mistakes to a struggling visitor

 

So suck it up and get ready for a playoff contending Chargers that does not want to start 0-2

 

 

 

 

[Mark92]

I just don't see how this gets any better anytime soon.  Our O line is awful.  Whoever is behind center is going to have a hard time and our poor run game is going to be in trouble.  The defense is never going to be off the feild so they will be gased most of the game.  It really goes to show how a bad O line can spiral a team.  Ed Oliver or Joey Bosa?  

[26CornerBlitz]

Bills Today: Josh Allen keeping his focus on preparation, staying ready

 

 

The Breakdown: Marcus Murphy's returns provide a bright spot in week 1 loss

 

On a day where yardage was hard to come by on offense, the exploits of Marcus Murphy were a welcome sight.

 

Murphy, operating as the team’s primary kick returner, averaged 33 yards per return and helped set the offense up in positive field position for drive starts.

 

His returns on the day went for 28, 25, 36, 27 and 49 yards to give Buffalo’s offense drive starts at their own 32, 25, 40, 27 and 49-yard lines respectively.

 

Murphy also had a punt return for nine yards as he split duty with Jeremy Kerley.

He was also the team’s leading rusher come game’s end with 31 yards on six carries.

 

Numbers to know

 

How’d the Chargers do?

- Buffalo’s Week 2 opponent, the Los Angeles Chargers ran into a buzz saw in their division rival Kansas City. Tyreek Hill provided three touchdowns, two on touchdown catches from Pat Mahomes and one on a 91-yard punt return. It helped the Chiefs sprint out to a 31-12 lead before ultimately beating L.A. by a final of 38-28.

 

Around the NFL: They said it

Edited September 10, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[LeGOATski]

That DT rotation was a plus. They stayed fresh all game and the run defense held up.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

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[Chuck Wagon]

The truly concerning thing.  NFL teams don't get beat like THAT.  The Browns went 0-16 last year and never once got beat like THAT.  Outside of maybe Shady and MAYBE the secondary, our position groups are going to be worse than the opponents in every single game this year.

 

The real question is if this team is going to even be able to support Allen enough to rule out considering taking another QB if we are sitting with pick #1 next spring.  Dwayne Haskins is looking really good so far...

[Stank_Nasty]

1 minute ago, Chuck Wagon said:

The truly concerning thing.  NFL teams don't get beat like THAT.  The Browns went 0-16 last year and never once got beat like THAT.  Outside of maybe Shady and MAYBE the secondary, our position groups are going to be worse than the opponents in every single game this year.

 

The real question is if this team is going to even be able to support Allen enough to rule out considering taking another QB if we are sitting with pick #1 next spring.  Dwayne Haskins is looking really good so far...

its because nfl teams really never get be like "THAT", that i'm not gonna lose my mind over it. the fan in me is gonna chalk it up as an anomalous event and look forward to heading to the opener against a suspect chargers d! haha. 

[MILFHUNTER#518]

6 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

Nate is big on JC...

 

Doesn’t seem to help him on the field...

Yesterday was divine intervention. Lord Jesus does not want Peterman to be a QB in the NFL, he wants him to retire and go be a youth pastor @ his fathers church. 

 

Lord Jesus wants the Bills to be successful, and they knew there was only one way to show Happy Clap the path  God wants him to take, hence dramatic the blowout. God sent us Allen to be the future. I think we will see a whole different team next Sunday as our we undertake the Divine Path forward.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

Not sure what the short term remedy will be. 

[CodeMonkey]

2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Not sure what the short term remedy will be. 

Alcohol my friend.  Lots and lots of alcohol.