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5 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

Your comment is exactly what I was saying.  You misunderstand the job of the columnist.  It is to share his opinion and analysis of what happened.  A reporter shares facts and "what the story is."

 

Bills fans have become so sensitive to criticism over the years.  It's beyond baffling

No. He never found a positive. Never. That’s tired schtick, not criticism. 

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Don't care what he says, won't read it. But these are the facts:

 

1. He dreamed of covering his hometown Boston teams, preferably the Celtics and he was so awful no paper would have him. 

2. His writing skills are subpar, which certainly forced him into staying in the bottom media market and not allowing him to rise as he thought he should.

3. His insight and analysis was subpar. He was no Felser or Kelly.

4. he had zero connection to players, coaches or fans, cutting his credibility and ability to be good.

5. Of those who resigned, were let go, or otherwise departed the news, this prick is the only one still unemployed.

5. He can cut us down as fans and as a city all he wants but the fact remains, he sucked at his job, grew to be a bitter reporter due to his own inadequacies and inabilities and inadequecies he took his misery and lack of success out on sports teams and fans. He tried covering sports like we need people covering politics. Teams owe us nothing and he and other entitled media types often miss this point (Schopp is one as well)... which is teams owe you zero. Zero access, zero answers, zero truth. 

6. And since he likes cutting us down, let's not forget that this miserable curmudgeon was a divorced by his wife and his skank of a daughter ended up on some reality TV and is a basically a pole dancer in Vegas. 


So stop feeding this troll. He's a stain on the media in this town, a self-loathing, miserable loser who's era of winning the fight because his employer bought ink by the barrel is long over since every other talentless ahole has a voice as miserable and useless as his.

 

Have fun in the dustbin of Buffalo media history. This city owes you nothing and we'd be happy if you departed, tail between you legs and weekly unemployment check dangling in your hand.

 

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Just now, Bobby Hooks said:

It’s kind of funny that someone known so well for undervaluing the team he was covering is trying oh so hard to overvalue himself. 

 

Im sorry, but the guys act was old and tired. He wasn’t a reporter that looks at a story objectively and says how can I get this to the people. He looked at a story and said how many people can I piss off with this story. It became as boring as losing for 17 years. 

 

Its not creative. It’s a tired Schtick. So much so, I don’t have to listen to it to know exactly what he’ll say. 

 

Jog on, Jer. 

 

Again, you need to listen to the interview because there's an aspect of truth to what you said.  He admitted to taking extreme views in his column, while he didn't fabricate his thoughts he did amplify his view.  

 

I don't know about you - but it seems like there were many pissed off Bills fans during the Drought years.  It used to infuriate me to listen to reporters loft softball questions to Bills players and coaches after a frustrating loss.  Jerry and Bucky never did that.  They always asked the tough questions and shared their honest thoughts, even if it meant some of your would troll them on Twitter in retaliation.  That I appreciated.  

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16 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

Obviously you didn't hear the interview.  Jerry is passionate about being a writer and his dream job was being a columnist.  He did it well for almost 3 decades and sold a lot of newspapers.  It's understandable how getting this taken away from him was upsetting ..

 

well, there are many ways to take what happens in life. one might be grateful for a company that gave them an opportunity to be somewhat of a celebrity for close to 3 decades. all the while understanding that unless you are the owner of said company, most job positions are temporary at best and to have secured his."dream" job for as long as did might be construed as him being somewhat good at what he was doing.

 

or, you know... one might be bitter and resentful that a company that made you decided it was time to move in another direction after 30 year.

 

the choice is one's to make i guess but if it were up to me, id say !@#$ Sully and the horseshit he rode in on. an ungrateful bastered who only cares aboit himself.

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5 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

Your comment is exactly what I was saying.  You misunderstand the job of the columnist.  It is to share his opinion and analysis of what happened.  A reporter shares facts and "what the story is."

 

Bills fans have become so sensitive to criticism over the years.  It's beyond baffling

I don’t think you are getting it. It’s not the criticism. It’s the lack of quality takes. He very rarely exposed anything or wrote something that wasn’t self evident to the casual fan.  As another poster said, it was just another guy at the bar yapping away. 

 

I’m happy that those Sullivan fans have a place to hear his schtick, but to say the city of Buffalo owes him an apology is the funniest thing I’ve heard in awhile. 

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3 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

Talk about desperate times.

 

LOL well I thought working for Buffalo Maven was more desperate 

Just now, Sanners said:

I don’t think you are getting it. It’s not the criticism. It’s the lack of quality takes. He very rarely exposed anything or wrote something that wasn’t self evident to the casual fan.  As another poster said, it was just another guy at the bar yapping away. 

 

I’m happy that those Sullivan fans have a place to hear his schtick, but to say the city of Buffalo owes him an apology is the funniest thing I’ve heard in awhile. 

 

"lack of quality takes" is completely arbitrary.  Just because you didn't like his opinion does not mean he had an misinformed opinion.  I'd argue the  opposite 

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1 minute ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

To me, it sounds like you are salty toward Jerry because he has been critical of the Bills.  As I said before, it seems like many Bills fans are very sensitive to any criticism.  I believe it had to do with the embarrassing Drought.  It's not just Jerry, any media personality that is critical of the team gets trashed here.  

Well thats your opinion & ur entitled to that. But i dont care enough about him to be salty. But case in point, Sullys column was him voicing his opinions... Well sometimes people just don't like your opinion. Many didnt like his either. Its probably a big reason why the BN pulled his column from him.

There were some articles I liked from him, but too many were just a lazy narrative written buy a guy who seemed to care more about being seen as the smartest observer of our sports teams, than simply telling a story & educating his readers. 

 

Dude comes across as a narcissist.

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2 minutes ago, Foxx said:

well, there are many ways to take what happens in life. one might be grateful for a company that gave them an opportunity to be somewhat of a celebrity for close to 3 decades. all the while understanding that unless you are the owner of said company, most job positions are temporary at best and to have secured his."dream" job for as long as did might be construed as him being somewhat good at what he was doing.

 

or, you know... one might be bitter and resentful that a company that made you decided it was time to move in another direction after 30 year.

 

the choice is one's to make i guess but if it were up to me, id say !@#$ Sully and the horseshit he rode in on. an ungrateful bastered who only cares aboit himself.

 

Your opinion is fair - he could have taken the high-road like many would.  However I respect him for being real and sharing his true feelings on the situation.   But again, I can tell you didn't listen to the interview.  His issue is with the current management which he feels wronged him.   It's not being ungrateful - it's saying "I don't like how I was treated at the end and here's why."   He deserves credit for speaking up

  

1 minute ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

I honestly don't care about Jerry Sullivan, didn't listen didn't read

 

Lie detector test going off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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3 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

LOL well I thought working for Buffalo Maven was more desperate 

 

"lack of quality takes" is completely arbitrary.  Just because you didn't like his opinion does not mean he had an misinformed opinion.  I'd argue the  opposite 

Good point. Everyone has their opinion. Hopefully, you can continue to enjoy his work. I’ll continue not reading or listening to him.

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3 minutes ago, brianthomas said:

Well thats your opinion & ur entitled to that. But i dont care enough about him to be salty. But case in point, Sullys column was him voicing his opinions... Well sometimes people just don't like your opinion. Many didnt like his either. Its probably a big reason why the BN pulled his column from him.

There were some articles I liked from him, but too many were just a lazy narrative written buy a guy who seemed to care more about being seen as the smartest observer of our sports teams, than simply telling a story & educating his readers. 

 

Dude comes across as a narcissist.

 

I would say more like a "know it all" but yes you could say that.  However there are many columnist and media personalities that do the same thing  

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10 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

Again, you need to listen to the interview because there's an aspect of truth to what you said.  He admitted to taking extreme views in his column, while he didn't fabricate his thoughts he did amplify his view.  

 

I don't know about you - but it seems like there were many pissed off Bills fans during the Drought years.  It used to infuriate me to listen to reporters loft softball questions to Bills players and coaches after a frustrating loss.  Jerry and Bucky never did that.  They always asked the tough questions and shared their honest thoughts, even if it meant some of your would troll them on Twitter in retaliation.  That I appreciated.  

Alright fine, I’m an open minded guy. If you tell me that in that interview he admits he kind of called it in the last few years (because that’s exactly what going the extremist route EVERY TIME is) and promises given another chance he would do better, I’ll listen. Otherwise, no. If he doesn’t realize he became the equivalent of the Sun on the BN (I mean how many times do you want to hear about a batboy sighting?) then I don’t need to hear it. 

 

I dont always love the opinions of other humans but If your sole purpose in life is riling up the lowest common denominator I really have no interest in you or what you have to say (JS). 

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Just now, BuffaloRush said:

 

Gotcha - If you listen to the interview above, I can guarantee you will like it

Outta curiosity, you seem to have a lot of interest on this subject, Youre not Jerry Sullivan are you?

I can't imagine just anyone would be as interested in this topic, are you Jerry or know him in real life?

Not trying to be sarcastic haha

 

On a side note, its a shame that print media is dying. Papers everywhere are cutting back drastically to their staffs.. if theyre even able to stay alive at all.

Gleason & Sully are a casualty of the times. I'm sure Sully realizes it was a big part of the changes at the end there. But they had a good run.

 

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I wonder if Pegula really would have a hand in removing a column that was often critical of his teams. That would be upsetting but not as surprising as it should be. It does seem like recently the Bills go out of their way to control the narrative. I still can’t believe the BBMB was shut down. Anything bills related on Facebook is an honest to god embarrassment. The people that call into WGR are rarely informed and not at all representative of the actual diehard fans. Usually it’s just blind faith homers, barely capable of verbal communication. The hosts on WGR are either complete fan boys like Murph or just !@#$s to entice calls. There is almost nothing with substance left when it comes to the Bills. I would say Tasker is the closest thing to realistic or accurate but listening to him is about as fun as stapling your lips together. It’s a shame that the local media responsible for covering 1 of the 32 nfl teams, isn’t held to a higher standard. There are plenty of people out there that can be objective and entertaining. I would like to see them more in the forefront. I like Joe B and Sal knows what’s happening with the Bills for the most part. Chris Brown is also decent. Outside of those guys, it’s rough IMO.

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In my opinion, the wgr lineup is bipolar.  Ra Ra from 12-3.  Sully 2.0 from 3-7.  The night cap, I have found, to be the most objective.  Although I did like Ryan's show better.  Although the morning show isn't bad.  I would never have a beer with Jeremy and I find his socio-political rants annoying, but his commentary is good.... which was an art Sully couldn't grasp for the past 15 + years.  

 

And no doubt .... BuffaloRush is, or has a personal tie to Sully.  

 

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30 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

Your comment is exactly what I was saying.  You misunderstand the job of the columnist.  It is to share his opinion and analysis of what happened.  A reporter shares facts and "what the story is."

 

Bills fans have become so sensitive to criticism over the years.  It's beyond baffling

You're not really listening to the posters in this thread, though. You keep repeating the same shill. 

 

It's not even Sullivan's negative takes on an organization that usually deserved it. It's that many, many Bills fans just effing disliked the guy. 

 

He's. Not. Likable. 

 

Deal with it. 

 

Also, his writing stinks. Stale as his personality. 

 

Now, on another note: anybody know his daughter?

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19 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

Your opinion is fair - he could have taken the high-road like many would.  However I respect him for being real and sharing his true feelings on the situation.   But again, I can tell you didn't listen to the interview.  His issue is with the current management which he feels wronged him.   It's not being ungrateful - it's saying "I don't like how I was treated at the end and here's why."   He deserves credit for speaking up ...

yeah, no. no interest really in listening to a resentful old curmudgeon.

 

life = 5% what happens to you and 95% how you react to that 5%.

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1 hour ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

 

I think Sully gets a bad rap from Bills fans.  I think some fans fail to understand the job a columnist.  Also, IMO he was right to criticize the Bills during the drought years.  The moves that Ralph Wilson made running the team were embarrassing.  

 

His job is to write something readers want to read.   In my case, he failed.   I want a columnist to entertain, inform, and maybe even uplift me.   Sully did none of those things.

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47 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said:

Since when did Bills fans get so sensitive to criticism?  It boggles my mind.  I think must be Stockholm syndrome associated with 17 years of epic failure.  If someone criticizes the team, they are an idiot.  

The Bills organization post- Wade Phillips was truly bush league and something of an embarrassment. They provided Sully with plenty of material to write his column. Their constant bungling brought a droning sameness to his writing, but there’s that old saying about the messenger. The Pegulas didn’t get off to a great start bringing in sexy Rexy and his clown show buffoonery. I give Sullivan credit for not going along with a change in format that he felt was lacking. It would have been easier to stick around than to stick with his convictions. 

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10 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I wonder if Pegula really would have a hand in removing a column that was often critical of his teams. That would be upsetting but not as surprising as it should be. It does seem like recently the Bills go out of their way to control the narrative. I still can’t believe the BBMB was shut down. Anything bills related on Facebook is an honest to god embarrassment. The people that call into WGR are rarely informed and not at all representative of the actual diehard fans. Usually it’s just blind faith homers, barely capable of verbal communication. The hosts on WGR are either complete fan boys like Murph or just !@#$s to entice calls. There is almost nothing with substance left when it comes to the Bills. I would say Tasker is the closest thing to realistic or accurate but listening to him is about as fun as stapling your lips together. It’s a shame that the local media responsible for covering 1 of the 32 nfl teams, isn’t held to a higher standard. There are plenty of people out there that can be objective and entertaining. I would like to see them more in the forefront. I like Joe B and Sal knows what’s happening with the Bills for the most part. Chris Brown is also decent. Outside of those guys, it’s rough IMO.

 

Yes his point on the Pegulas is that the BN is right across the street from the arena and in close proximity to other PSE properties.  PSE has put millions downtown and has rejuvenated it to an extent.  They hold a lot of power naturally.  

 

You gotta listen to the podcast because he tells a story where PSE was using BN for printing for their companies.  Sully claims they had a $250K contract.  Because of something he wrote, Sully claims PSE pulled the deal.  So it was a joke among executives that Sully cost them $250K.  Crazy story - but not out of the realm of possibilities.  Definitely would be disappointing to have them control the local narrative

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I subbed to the BN Blitz the second I saw he was gone.  I refuse to even listen to this trash.  He’s a smug Soh and deserves to feel disrespected.  He’s similar to the product that he covered the last 17 years.  Garbaggio

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2 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

His job is to write something readers want to read.   In my case, he failed.   I want a columnist to entertain, inform, and maybe even uplift me.   Sully did none of those things.

 

I think you would really like John Murphy and. Chris Brown

Just now, NewEra said:

I subbed to the BN Blitz the second I saw he was gone.  I refuse to even listen to this trash.  He’s a smug Soh and deserves to feel disrespected.  He’s similar to the product that he covered the last 17 years.  Garbaggio

 

Congrats!  I’m sure the $2.99 from you and

a few others did wonders to offset the millions lost this past quarter.  

3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

The Bills organization post- Wade Phillips was truly bush league and something of an embarrassment. They provided Sully with plenty of material to write his column. Their constant bungling brought a droning sameness to his writing, but there’s that old saying about the messenger. The Pegulas didn’t get off to a great start bringing in sexy Rexy and his clown show buffoonery. I give Sullivan credit for not going along with a change in format that he felt was lacking. It would have been easier to stick around than to stick with his convictions. 

 

Thank you man....My thoughts are exactly the same.  Sully was negative because there really wasn’t a lot to be positive about during the Drought.  Like you said the decisions made by this organization were embarrassing.  Sully was blunt in calling Ralph and several others out.  

 

I also give him credit for speaking his mind in this interview. 

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11 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

Gotcha - If you listen to the interview above, I can guarantee you will like it

 

Granted, you started the thread, but are ya feeling a little lonely here?  If your posts were a little more formulaic and focused more on talking down to those that didn’t share your opinion I’d swear you were Sullenman himself, especially with how much time you’ve spent shilling for him. 

 

I’ll spare you the repetition and assure that I haven’t, nor will I, watch the interview... or read his blog... or figure out in this day and age how to even tune in to AM radio anymore.

 

I find it ironic, assuming that your summary is accurate, that Sullivan would refer to fans responding to a survey that his employer sent out as to why they didn’t subscribe to the BN Blitz as “the lowest common denominator” if they answered it was his and Gleason’s presence. Apparently if you don’t agree with his opinion you’re beneath him, and if he doesn’t agree with yours you’re beneath him.

 

Not surprised to hear he’s managed to avoid any semblance of introspection in the face of losing his “dream job” in favor of continuing to “stick it to the man.”  Putz. 

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5 minutes ago, transient said:

 

Granted, you started the thread, but are ya feeling a little lonely here?  If your posts were a little more formulaic and focused more on talking down to those that didn’t share your opinion I’d swear you were Sullenman himself, especially with how much time you’ve spent shilling for him. 

 

I’ll spare you the repetition and assure that I haven’t, nor will I, watch the interview... or read his blog... or figure out in this day and age how to even tune in to AM radio anymore.

 

I find it ironic, assuming that your summary is accurate, that Sullivan would refer to fans responding to a survey that his employer sent out as to why they didn’t subscribe to the BN Blitz as “the lowest common denominator” if they answered it was his and Gleason’s presence. Apparently if you don’t agree with his opinion you’re beneath him, and if he doesn’t agree with yours you’re beneath him.

 

Not surprised to hear he’s managed to avoid any semblance of introspection in the face of losing his “dream job” in favor of continuing to “stick it to the man.”  Putz. 

 

LOL this week I’ve been accused of being Dunkirk Don and Jerry Sullivan.  I can assure you I’m neither.

 

I don’t talk down to anyone that doesn’t share my opinion, though yes, I do disagree.  If you haven’t noticed the majority of the threads do the same thing here.

 

Your aversion toward Jerry Sullivan just seems somewhat over-the-top and very  personal.  I don’t get it.  

 

But yes he does say exactly that about the survey.  Something tells me you will be hearing that audio later 

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Remember when the Bills made the playoffs for the first time in two decades and the Buffalo News decided to run an article the next morning about why being a "true fan" is a mental disorder and we should be ashamed of ourselves?

 

That was disgraceful clickbait and I'm glad this guy and several others lost their jobs because of that mentality.

 

How graceful of you to call this passionate and opinionated, quality writing on your way out the door. Keep patting yourself on the back as the door hits you in the same spot. Sorry things didn't work out for ya Sully ... when you stoop to the lowest levels of journalism, sometimes there are consequences.

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36 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

Your comment is exactly what I was saying.  You misunderstand the job of the columnist.  It is to share his opinion and analysis of what happened.  A reporter shares facts and "what the story is."

 

Bills fans have become so sensitive to criticism over the years.  It's beyond baffling

 

You're missing it.  He even said - "they felt my voice was becoming bad for business."  

 

It doesn't matter what his job is as a columnist vs reporter, analyst, journalist etc - if the business thinks you're negatively effecting business - you're gone.  

 

If a lead chef of restaurant for 29 years is causing customers to stop coming to the restaurant because they aren't enjoying the food - it doesn't matter that it's the persons dream job to be a chef.  So they give the 29 year employee an opportunity to do other things and he says absolutely not,  I'm a chef - then it's time to part ways.  Then if some customers have a conversation - it matters not that customers that like the food try and explain the difference between a chef and a waiter.  

 

 

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1 minute ago, BuffaloRush said:

.... aversion toward Jerry Sullivan just seems somewhat over-the-top and very  personal.  I don’t get it.  

 

May I ask you a serious non troll BUT truly serious question?  Why do you think there is so much "aversion" to Sully? I am assuming you are a reasonable and intelligent person. Do you think that people are piling on Jerry for fun?  OR might there be along term justification for all this (pretty universal) angst?

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1 hour ago, Watkins90 said:

Lol at taking losing his column as a slap in the face. Bro, you work for someone. When you boss tells you to do something different, you do it. You don't whine like a little school girl, you just do it. 

 

As a journalist at a very small newspaper in northeast Iowa, what I wouldn't give to be the Bills or Sabres beat writer. People just don't understand how good they have it. 

Whatever man. Just because you work for someone doesn’t mean You're not entitled to an opinion or have to work under those conditions.

 

He takes his work as a profession it appears and sees his responsibility in a lot bigger view than employee and employer. I don’t particularly like his columns because they are a tad thin in my opinion.  But I respect his view on what he did and why.  Don’t do things in life if you have options, even if it makes you uncomfortable - do what you believe in and want and you’ll be more satisfied in life, even if the money isn’t great.  

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Whatever man. Just because you work for someone doesn’t mean You're not entitled to an opinion or have to work under those conditions.

 

He takes his work as a profession it appears and sees his responsibility in a lot bigger view than employee and employer. I don’t particularly like his columns because they are a tad thin in my opinion.  But I respect his view on what he did and why.  Don’t do things in life if you have options, even if it makes you uncomfortable - do what you believe in and want and you’ll be more satisfied in life, even if the money isn’t great.  

I have no problem with him leaving a job, but to bad mouth your current employer is just bush league. 

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21 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

I think you would really like John Murphy and. Chris Brown

 

Congrats!  I’m sure the $2.99 from you and

a few others did wonders to offset the millions lost this past quarter.  

 

Thank you man....My thoughts are exactly the same.  Sully was negative because there really wasn’t a lot to be positive about during the Drought.  Like you said the decisions made by this organization were embarrassing.  Sully was blunt in calling Ralph and several others out.  

 

I also give him credit for speaking his mind in this interview. 

He’s a bum 

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9 minutes ago, aceman_16 said:

May I ask you a serious non troll BUT truly serious question?  Why do you think there is so much "aversion" to Sully? I am assuming you are a reasonable and intelligent person. Do you think that people are piling on Jerry for fun?  OR might there be along term justification for all this (pretty universal) angst?

 

Nope, I think there’s an aversion because people want to read positive things about their favorite football team.  They want to feel good about their favorite team.

 

The problem is, there really weren’t many positives during the drought.  Sully constantly called out the Bills for many very bad decisions that they made.  He called them

embarassing and yes it was embarrassing.  

 

Anyone in the Buffalo media who calls out the team is disliked among the Bills fan base.  This includes Sully, Mike Schoop, Jeremy White and Mike Rodak.   How many times to fans in this forum attack a writer who writes something negative about the team?  It happens all the time.   People who tread lightly on criticism but that are mostly positive say...a Sal Carpaccio are received very well.

 

Yes Sully was very critical of the team and I think that many Bills fans internalized his comments.  It used to piss me off to hear reporters loft softball questions to coaches or players.  Or when a good question was aske, they’d give a BS answer and the reporter wouldn’t follow up.  Sully did neither and for that I appreciate his style.

 

I do agree that he came off as a curmudgeon or prickly.  Maybe even as a jerk, but again, I recognized what his role was as a columnist and never held it against him

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