4merper4mer Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said: I think it's far more likely he goes straight back to dominating the division, and jacksonville crawls back to the basement where they belong. He "dominated" the worst division in the history of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: What if Frank Reich starts posting in this thread he already did. guess which one ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Just threw a pick on MNF, no idea who he was throwing to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) He doesn’t need the horseshoes on his helmet, he needs them up his ass. Edited August 21, 2018 by Binghamton Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I really don’t get the hate on Andrew Luck. Has he lived up to his hype so far in his career? No but he’s still a good quarterback. You think more people would realize that after he missed last year and the colts were one of the worst teams in the league without him. The Colts have virtually no supporting cast around him outside of TY Hilton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: I really don’t get the hate on Andrew Luck. Has he lived up to his hype so far in his career? No but he’s still a good quarterback. You think more people would realize that after he missed last year and the colts were one of the worst teams in the league without him. The Colts have virtually no supporting cast around him outside of TY Hilton And they've been that way for somewhere around 15 years. Peyton Manning tricked us into thinking guys like Pierre Garcon and Austin Collie could play. Who knows what wouldve become of Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne had he not showed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: And they've been that way for somewhere around 15 years. Peyton Manning tricked us into thinking guys like Pierre Garcon and Austin Collie could play. Who knows what wouldve become of Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne had he not showed up. Very true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Luck never had a big arm, but now he looks like he can’t throw the ball through a paper bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 That interview was brutal. Seemed like he was lying the whole time about the arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I wouldn't hit the panic button on Luck just yet. He has looked so so in camp and pretty ass in pre-season. But it's only half way through pre-season and he is coming off of a major injury. But If we are in week 7 and Luck still looks horrible it is cause for serious concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eball Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 16 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Bill Simmons does a funny impression of Luck as Andre the Giant. this is also one of the best twitter follows: https://mobile.twitter.com/CaptAndrewLuck also, I’m totally taking Luck as my 2nd QB in fantasy. Yes, I was just going to mention the Capt Andrew Luck twitter feed. It's a must follow for NFL fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 8 hours ago, billsfan89 said: I wouldn't hit the panic button on Luck just yet. He has looked so so in camp and pretty ass in pre-season. But it's only half way through pre-season and he is coming off of a major injury. But If we are in week 7 and Luck still looks horrible it is cause for serious concern. That's the spirit. He gets half a season to have excused suckiness and still be the greatest draft prospect of all time. And this after a full year of European treatments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 17 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Ah, the season can officially start! we need Cam’s 2018 thread as well Josh Allen > Andrew Luck Just for the record ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, eball said: Yes, I was just going to mention the Capt Andrew Luck twitter feed. It's a must follow for NFL fans. They've got a Mayfield one too. I haven't seen a Josh Allen one yet. Who's feeling creative today??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 11 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: That's the spirit. He gets half a season to have excused suckiness and still be the greatest draft prospect of all time. And this after a full year of European treatments. I don't know why you have this hard on against Andrew Luck. You can say Luck was/is overrated and that he probably hasn't lived up to his draft status. I think that is an arguable point although his 2014 and 2016 seasons were legit great and he has been at least above average in the 3 other seasons he played. Luck's resume is pretty solid even if you feel others have overrated him (although you could place the blame more so on the Colts inability to surround him with talent.) My point was that Luck is coming off an injury serious enough to have him miss an entire season. Luck hasn't played in just under 2 years. Luck didn't even get any off-season training in during the 2017 off-season. So for a player coming off that serious of an injury playing in a new system to look rusty is understandable given the circumstances. If Luck gets deeper into the regular season and looks hurt then you really know something could be wrong. But a guy in his circumstances looking rusty in pre-season doesn't mean the guy is going to be a complete failure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 hours ago, billsfan89 said: I don't know why you have this hard on against Andrew Luck. You can say Luck was/is overrated and that he probably hasn't lived up to his draft status. I think that is an arguable point although his 2014 and 2016 seasons were legit great and he has been at least above average in the 3 other seasons he played. Luck's resume is pretty solid even if you feel others have overrated him (although you could place the blame more so on the Colts inability to surround him with talent.) My point was that Luck is coming off an injury serious enough to have him miss an entire season. Luck hasn't played in just under 2 years. Luck didn't even get any off-season training in during the 2017 off-season. So for a player coming off that serious of an injury playing in a new system to look rusty is understandable given the circumstances. If Luck gets deeper into the regular season and looks hurt then you really know something could be wrong. But a guy in his circumstances looking rusty in pre-season doesn't mean the guy is going to be a complete failure. I didn't criticize him for looking rusty in preseason. I merely gave a tip of the cap for a half a season's worth of excusing in advance. And I think Luck is a good dude. I don't have any problem with him. I just find the 1984 type treatment he gets very odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 1:36 PM, 4merper4mer said: I don't know that I would call him bad. He was simply supposed to be the greatest player drafted in 50 years. He has not been anything approaching that but the narrative cannot be changed. Kim Jung QB must not be criticized. One QB has been drafted since Luck who also has played in the AFCCG. Only one QB has been drafted since Luck has made the NFCCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 46 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: I didn't criticize him for looking rusty in preseason. I merely gave a tip of the cap for a half a season's worth of excusing in advance. And I think Luck is a good dude. I don't have any problem with him. I just find the 1984 type treatment he gets very odd. Is it really an excuse or just a time table of expectations based off of his injury history? I think that taking those factors into consideration you can lessen the need for panic until you get deeper into the season. It's not like Andrew Luck tore his ACL or some other injury in week 1 of 2017 where he at least got a full off-season's worth of training in and then came back during OTA's. Luck's injury was serious enough where he didn't do any football activities until this years training camp. It's possible he won't ever be the same QB he once was. But he is likely to take some time to come back to form if he is on the comeback trail. I don't know what 1984 type treatment you are talking about but if you are saying he gets over hyped then you have an argument but my points were more so just taking into account the type of injury he had and the possible time table for him to give you enough of a sample size to know how well he is coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: One QB has been drafted since Luck who also has played in the AFCCG. Only one QB has been drafted since Luck has made the NFCCG. Was he touted only as a comparison to players selected with him or after him? Or was he touted compared with previous great prospects? Edited August 22, 2018 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 5:35 PM, Royale with Cheese said: If he stays healthy all year...I see him throwing 35 TD’s. On a GOOD team, he could be awesome. The Colts are not a good team. I feel sorry for the guy. Kind of an Archie Manning in a way. Talent surrounded by lack of talent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Is it really an excuse or just a time table of expectations based off of his injury history? I think that taking those factors into consideration you can lessen the need for panic until you get deeper into the season. It's not like Andrew Luck tore his ACL or some other injury in week 1 of 2017 where he at least got a full off-season's worth of training in and then came back during OTA's. Luck's injury was serious enough where he didn't do any football activities until this years training camp. It's possible he won't ever be the same QB he once was. But he is likely to take some time to come back to form if he is on the comeback trail. I don't know what 1984 type treatment you are talking about but if you are saying he gets over hyped then you have an argument but my points were more so just taking into account the type of injury he had and the possible time table for him to give you enough of a sample size to know how well he is coming back. He was never the QB he "once was" because Kim Jung QB is the bestest there ever was. He never made a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 11:54 AM, joesixpack said: Always interested in seeing what is raised in the Kim Jung QB thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 Anything good from yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 Kim Jung QB would have hit that Hail Mary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 Are we finally out of excuses for the best prospect in the history of history? Right now would you take Luck over: Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Wentz, Watson, Mahomes, Goff, Carr? How about Rosen, Jimmy G, Trubiniski, even Talleywhacker, Mariota, Bortles? He has Winston beat. maybe Prescott. Definitely better than Connor Cook. Top prospect ever? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Just wait til 4mer hears about Trevor Lawrence. He's got a target on his back already. @thebandit27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 On 9/24/2018 at 8:27 AM, 4merper4mer said: Are we finally out of excuses for the best prospect in the history of history? Right now would you take Luck over: Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Wentz, Watson, Mahomes, Goff, Carr? How about Rosen, Jimmy G, Trubiniski, even Talleywhacker, Mariota, Bortles? He has Winston beat. maybe Prescott. Definitely better than Connor Cook. Top prospect ever? LOL It seems like this is personal with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: It seems like this is personal with you. Not at all. I wish Luck all the best. He seems like an exceptionally good guy and teammate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 Nice bounce pass on 4th and 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobs0108 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Nice bounce pass on 4th and 4. This sounds personal. He had over 400 with 4 tds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, bobs0108 said: This sounds personal. He had over 400 with 4 tds They were down the whole game which can inflate stats. When he had the chance to win the game he choked again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobs0108 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: They were down the whole game which can inflate stats. When he had the chance to win the game he choked again. That is on the head coach for even going for it on 4th down. You just have something against Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 I'd trade Luck for Peterman and Tre White right now! RIGHT NOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 1:53 PM, 4merper4mer said: It seems to be a good time to start this with the Colts preseason game being featured on MNF. He was hurt last year and got European treatment which took a while so there was really only one 2017 excuse and no need for a thread. The 2016 thread was a doozy with everything but the Loch Ness monster being blamed. All arrows seem seem to be pointing up for 2018 but I'm sure there will be some reasons for the turnovers and 4th and 1 incompletions to wide open guys. I think the leading candidate is that the Titans, Jags, and Texans are all much stronger than the last time he saw them. Then again, Brisset swept the Texans. Why don't you make a thread like this for Josh Allen. Aside from the macro excuse that "he is being ruined" this year by playing, we have heard: 1) The OL is terrible! He'll get killed! 2) Our WRs are terrible! Give him someone to throw to! Today we also got: 3) The referees are terrible and all the calls are going against us! and 4) The routes our receivers are running are terrible! We need new route trees! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Why don't you make a thread like this for Josh Allen. Aside from the macro excuse that "he is being ruined" this year by playing, we have heard: 1) The OL is terrible! He'll get killed! 2) Our WRs are terrible! Give him someone to throw to! Today we also got: 3) The referees are terrible and all the calls are going against us! and 4) The routes our receivers are running are terrible! We need new route trees! And of course we can always blame it on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Didn't need any excuses this week. 464 yards passing, 4 TDs, 0 ints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Fadingpain said: Why don't you make a thread like this for Josh Allen. Aside from the macro excuse that "he is being ruined" this year by playing, we have heard: 1) The OL is terrible! He'll get killed! 2) Our WRs are terrible! Give him someone to throw to! Today we also got: 3) The referees are terrible and all the calls are going against us! and 4) The routes our receivers are running are terrible! We need new route trees! One might think it is because Allen played his fourth game today but one would be wrong. Perhaps it is because Luck was treated as if he would become the Gretzky of the NFL and he hasn't resembled anything close. And none of it all is ever his fault. Reich is getting skewered for trying to win, perhaps deservedly so. Nobody seems to be pointing out that Luck bounced a 6 yard out when the chips were down.......again. 2 hours ago, bobs0108 said: That is on the head coach for even going for it on 4th down. You just have something against Luck. Lol head coach's fault he bounced a 6 yard pass in crunch time. Good one,. Bad decision by the coach or not, the play was there to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 I'm starting to wonder if maybe yesterday could be a turning point for Luck. Reich demonstrated that he is going to try to win and Andrew has to step up in that regard. Yes, he flopped by missing an easy pass, but sometimes failing is the best way to learn. If he knows he won't be coddled, maybe he will step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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