H2o Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24114399/leveon-bell-pittsburgh-steelers-fail-reach-long-term-deal-ahead-franchise-tag-deadline This is likely his last year in Pittsburgh. We will have a boatload of money next offseason. What say you TSW? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Yes. (too verbose?)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 i doubt mcbeane does it because of the injury issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I think Shady would take offense to that move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP's Voice Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Investing a large amount of our cap in an aging RB would be one of those moves that we'd be unhappy about for years. We should invest in the O-Line and WR next year, not RB IMO. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Can't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 Just now, I'm Spartacus said: I think Shady would take offense to that move. Shady might be elsewhere by then where he has a whole different set of offenses to worry about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 minute ago, H2o said: Shady might be elsewhere by then where he has a whole different set of offenses to worry about. Like picking up the soap? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Horrible idea. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, JP's Voice said: Investing a large amount of our cap in an aging RB would be one of those moves that we'd be unhappy about for years. We should invest in the O-Line and WR next year, not RB IMO. He's 26 so it'll be like getting shady again and having 3 very productive seasons by the age of 30. So at most you give him 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Only if no one emerges as a franchise QB. With a franchise QB, you can still do well without a great RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I think paying that much for RBs is bad business. Invest in the line and lots of RBs can be as good as Bell. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Sirius said he wants like $15MM+ per year ?. And people are freaking about Shady's salary? Would love to have him, but not at that cost... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP's Voice Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: He's 26 so it'll be like getting shady again and having 3 very productive seasons by the age of 30. So at most you give him 4 years. No doubt that he would be productive and a good add on a team that's competing for a championship. Gotta go back to the Adrian Peterson argument. He's the best RB we've seen in 15 years and yet he's never won anything. No matter how good a RB is, he won't win you a championship unless the rest of the team is already good. Seeing that we have some holes on offense, we should plug those holes and wait for a few years before we get a RB to put us over the top. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Gugny said: I think paying that much for RBs is bad business. Invest in the line and lots of RBs can be as good as Bell. has anyone done that? he puts up a ton of production. it's very easy to say what you said but when has it happend? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, JP's Voice said: No doubt that he would be productive and a good add on a team that's competing for a championship. Gotta go back to the Adrian Peterson argument. He's the best RB we've seen in 15 years and yet he's never won anything. No matter how good a RB is, he won't win you a championship unless the rest of the team is already good. Seeing that we have some holes on offense, we should plug those holes and wait for a few years before we get a RB to put us over the top. I'd agree if they didn't have 100mil in cap space to fix the offense next season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, aristocrat said: has anyone done that? he puts up a ton of production. it's very easy to say what you said but when has it happend? I'm not saying Bell isn't awesome. He is. But he's also got the best WR on the planet and a HOF QB. I think it happens all the time. Most teams with superior run games have elite O lines. Look at Zeke Elliott with an elite line vs. Zeke Elliott (and Dak Prescott, for that matter) without an elite line. Night and day. The Broncos, during their run (Elway days) had a revolving door of RBs who did well behind their elite line. Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, Terrell Davis. It's just my personal belief that there are very few RBs who can be successful WITHOUT a superior line. Build the line and a "good," RB becomes "great." I'll also add: If a team is a RB away from being a powerhouse, then MAYBE a team should invest that much in one. The Bills are missing a hell of a lot more pieces than RB. The timing, price and need are all wrong. Edited July 16, 2018 by Gugny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 At his asking price? Not a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 For 2 years and 32M, sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: I'd agree if they didn't have 100mil in cap space to fix the offense next season Beane didn’t fix Whaley’s mess so he could go make his own. Look at all the running backs putting up big numbers, there is zero reason to overpay Bell. Draft a guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aristocrat Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 29 minutes ago, Gugny said: I'm not saying Bell isn't awesome. He is. But he's also got the best WR on the planet and a HOF QB. I think it happens all the time. Most teams with superior run games have elite O lines. Look at Zeke Elliott with an elite line vs. Zeke Elliott (and Dak Prescott, for that matter) without an elite line. Night and day. The Broncos, during their run (Elway days) had a revolving door of RBs who did well behind their elite line. Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, Terrell Davis. It's just my personal belief that there are very few RBs who can be successful WITHOUT a superior line. Build the line and a "good," RB becomes "great." I'll also add: If a team is a RB away from being a powerhouse, then MAYBE a team should invest that much in one. The Bills are missing a hell of a lot more pieces than RB. The timing, price and need are all wrong. there is a big difference between getting solid production out of a guy and what bell does year in and year out. there is a huge difference between getting under 1500 yards and getting close to 2000 all purpose yards every year. the broncos did do it but nobody seems to have done it since. the cowboys are doing it but they also have zeke who is a top 5 pick not some random guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I think he thinks he deserves what a 3-down slot WR like Landry got. I don’t think the Bills will be willing to give him that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Nope nope nope. Not a team guy. a ME guy. and he seems a bit goofy. Rap songs ? about Contracts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, JP's Voice said: Investing a large amount of our cap in an aging RB would be one of those moves that we'd be unhappy about for years. We should invest in the O-Line and WR next year, not RB IMO. ....not to mention his whiny gig is getting OLD as well.......no way he's McD process guy................. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 If we can pay Star 10 mil a year then Bell deserves 15. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Just now, billsbackto81 said: If we can pay Star 10 mil a year then Bell deserves 15. ...now there's a real viable comparison....15 mil for a RB?........thanks...SMH...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Luv the Pun! Great title OP! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 Honestly, I wouldn't mind having Bell at 15-16 mill a year for 3 years. The league is changing, salaries are rising, and Bell is a perennial All-Pro RB. He can run for 1,300 yards or more, catch 60-70 passes for another 700-800 yards, and he can block. He is a true 3 down RB and top 3 in the league. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, H2o said: Honestly, I wouldn't mind having Bell at 15-16 mill a year for 3 years. The league is changing, salaries are rising, and Bell is a perennial All-Pro RB. He can run for 1,300 yards or more, catch 60-70 passes for another 700-800 yards, and he can block. He is a true 3 down RB and top 3 in the league. that is all true enough ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, H2o said: Honestly, I wouldn't mind having Bell at 15-16 mill a year for 3 years. The league is changing, salaries are rising, and Bell is a perennial All-Pro RB. He can run for 1,300 yards or more, catch 60-70 passes for another 700-800 yards, and he can block. He is a true 3 down RB and top 3 in the league. .....honestly that would NEVER happen.....NEVER.......bad enough the desperate QB market is in another galaxy with absurd money being thrown around....BUT...$15 mil for a RB.....or Beckham expecting $20 mil as a WR?.......so who will be the first punter at $10 mil??........... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: .....honestly that would NEVER happen.....NEVER.......bad enough the desperate QB market is in another galaxy with absurd money being thrown around....BUT...$15 mil for a RB.....or Beckham expecting $20 mil as a WR?.......so who will be the first punter at $10 mil??........... He's not just an elite RB. He is better receiver than many #2s, and several #1s. Sammy Watkins just got $16m per year, and Bell has more receiving yards than him the past two seasons! Edited July 16, 2018 by TheElectricCompany 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Piss away a ton of money on a high priced RB with some mileage on the odometer? Why would we do that? This is a passing league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Just now, TheElectricCompany said: He's not just an elite RB. He is better receiver than most #2s, and several #1s. Sammy Watkins just got $16m per year and Bell has more receiving yards, than him the past two seasons! ....so my next question would be is "Sammy money" well spent based on his "body of work to date"?........interested to see what your perspective may be.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Hard pass. Delusional pricing. Let some other team pay that for the tail end of his career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 37 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...now there's a real viable comparison....15 mil for a RB?........thanks...SMH...... I think you're missing the point. I don't think any RB is worth that much. But, which position has more of an impact on the outcome of a game? A DT that basically occupies blockers or a RB that churns out 150 combined yds weekly? Bell is arguably the best RB in the game. Where does Star rank amongst DTs? Neither deserves that much but if you go by who should get paid for what they've done and bring it's Bell hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuru4 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I say no, just because he wants so much $ and has an injury history, but we have the second most cap space and a front office/coach that wants to build their own team, and an ownership that’s happy to spend. I will trust whatever they decide to do and am pumped to see what they decide. That being said, I’m still optimistic about this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: He's not just an elite RB. He is better receiver than many #2s, and several #1s. Sammy Watkins just got $16m per year, and Bell has more receiving yards than him the past two seasons! no question he has been at top of his game. and qualifies as the best RB because of his overall skill set. I would prefer Bills build the offense next year and the year after. There will be the opportunity to draft a RB or two soon enough. Is this all because some assume Shady is going commissioner exempt ? Cuz plenty of folks have been pissing about how much Bills paid Shady for years ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Not a bad idea, BUT, Bell had 60 or something mroe touches than any other NFL player last season, and will likely have a similar load this year. The odds of a breakdown on what will be a VERY high priced player (he turned down 14.5 millino/year) make me say pass. I'd rather chase some great OL and DL play for that money and draft a RB in Rd. 2. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 21 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....so my next question would be is "Sammy money" well spent based on his "body of work to date"?........interested to see what your perspective may be.... I thought it was rich for Sammy, but his deal didn't really change the going rate. Elite receivers are getting $13-$18 million p/year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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