YoloinOhio Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) Hand wringing over only 3rd team reps can now end Edited June 12, 2018 by YoloinOhio 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 That's good, but if he starts the season as the 3rd string QB i still won't be upset. Goff was the 3rd stringer his rookie year for half the season. It's not unusual to bring a guy along slowly. Derek Carr went 0-10 his first 10 starts as a rookie. I don't expect him to come out gang busters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Boom! I was hoping the next step would come this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YoloinOhio Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 Just now, Soda Popinski said: That's good, but if he starts the season as the 3rd string QB i still won't be upset. Goff was the 3rd stringer his rookie year for half the season. It's not unusual to bring a guy along slowly. Derek Carr went 0-10 his first 10 starts as a rookie. I don't expect him to come out gang busters. He said he will mostly stay with 3rd team this week by design of his development plan but they will starting mixing him in with the starters. Good plan imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: He said he will mostly stay with 3rd team this week by design of his development plan but they will starting mixing him in with the starters. Good plan imo. I believe Beane/McD/Daboll have a collective plan set up for Allen's development, and I believe they had it in place before they drafted him or any QB. I expect them to stick to it unless something crazy happens. Glad he's earning some reps with the 1s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GunnerBill Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: That's good, but if he starts the season as the 3rd string QB i still won't be upset. Goff was the 3rd stringer his rookie year for half the season. It's not unusual to bring a guy along slowly. Derek Carr went 0-10 his first 10 starts as a rookie. I don't expect him to come out gang busters. Goff was actually only the 3rd stringer for 1 week. Then he was the #2 for half a season before he got in. This was always the plan. He will be our starter week 1, I am more and more and more convinced of it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Just now, GunnerBill said: Goff was actually only the 3rd stringer for 1 week. Then he was the #2 for half a season before he got in. I thought he was 3rd string longer, i stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 I don’t have anything against McCarron or even Peterman tbh, just want best Qb to play. But I have found myself rooting for Allen to win the job. Only if he’s the best one, of course, but I guess I’m just hoping that he beats them out. 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Standing by my prediction McCarron will end up 3rd string. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Just now, Soda Popinski said: I thought he was 3rd string longer, i stand corrected. He passed Mannion on the depth chart for week 2 if my memory serves... 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t have anything against McCarron or even Peterman tbh, just want best Qb to play. But I have found myself rooting for Allen to win the job. Only if he’s the best one, of course, but I guess I’m just hoping that he beats them out. Same. I was far from an Allen fan during the draft process and have my doubts... but I just feel like beating these two out is not the biggest ask in the world and if he isn't able to I would be slightly worried. Wouldn't be writing him off but would have concerns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Just now, GunnerBill said: He passed Mannion on the depth chart for week 2 if my memory serves... He played pretty terrible when he did get in. Then this year, with the new HC, some decent WRs, holy hell what a difference. Even the first game of the season he was murdering it. I'm hoping Allen can develop like that. I actually thought Goff was going to bust after that rookie year, he was turrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 McCarron sitting in his locker when he heard McDermott announce this..... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Just now, Soda Popinski said: He played pretty terrible when he did get in. Then this year, with the new HC, some decent WRs, holy hell what a difference. Even the first game of the season he was murdering it. I'm hoping Allen can develop like that. I actually thought Goff was going to bust after that rookie year, he was turrible. I am a bit out on a limb on this I know but I went back at the end of their rookie seasons and did a deep dive into Goff and Wentz's tape and I thought they were a lot closer on tape than the public perception. Wentz was still better but the perception at the end of their rookie year was Went is a star, Goff is a bust and I didn't think that was the tale the tape told. Yes Goff had some horrible moments but he had some real moments of poise too where he made excellent tight window throws that are conducive to NFL success. I said on this forum before last season people were being too quick to write Goff off. Yes he needed upgrades all around him but he got them and he looked much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Just now, GunnerBill said: I am a bit out on a limb on this I know but I went back at the end of their rookie seasons and did a deep dive into Goff and Wentz's tape and I thought they were a lot closer on tape than the public perception. Wentz was still better but the perception at the end of their rookie year was Went is a star, Goff is a bust and I didn't think that was the tale the tape told. Yes Goff had some horrible moments but he had some real moments of poise too where he made excellent tight window throws that are conducive to NFL success. I said on this forum before last season people were being too quick to write Goff off. Yes he needed upgrades all around him but he got them and he looked much better. I think upgrading the coaching staff had a significant impact on him as well. But I wouldn't have bet you 20 bucks on him having the year he did. The NFCW is getting tougher. LA looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I want to see how Allen looks against our starting unit in the Secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Woah this news is huge!!!! I can’t decide to overreact to this right now or to the coming reports of each and every report on each throw he makes? ? 1 minute ago, H2o said: I want to see how Allen looks against our starting unit in the Secondary. I expect picks. They’re good and he’s a rookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gugny Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 They're rushing him! He needs to sit behind McCarron for a few years because, you know, look how it worked out for Rodgers and Green Bay!! It's the same thing!! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 22 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: I think upgrading the coaching staff had a significant impact on him as well. But I wouldn't have bet you 20 bucks on him having the year he did. The NFCW is getting tougher. LA looks good. Ya Mcvay was a huge factor for Goff last year. Goff went from two extremes. Playing QB for one of the worst systems his first year, to one of the best systems In his 2nd year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Woah this news is huge!!!! I can’t decide to overreact to this right now or to the coming reports of each and every report on each throw he makes? ? I expect picks. They’re good and he’s a rookie Yes, I do as well. But how encouraging would it be if he goes out there and makes some big time throws? I hope he shows well. I still think he beats the other two out in TC for the starting job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach55 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 This is entirely a test to see how he fairs against better competition. I would expect him to slowly get more reps with the ones as he proves himself against the weaker players. I would not read too much into this. Way too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 40 minutes ago, FappyTheClown said: What gets you excited in the offseason fapster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I can't fathom how anyone would be shocked by this. Unless he completely flops or one of the other guys shines like a diamond, he's the QB of the future. Kind of a snoozer from a news perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 53 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: That's good, but if he starts the season as the 3rd string QB i still won't be upset. Goff was the 3rd stringer his rookie year for half the season. It's not unusual to bring a guy along slowly. Derek Carr went 0-10 his first 10 starts as a rookie. I don't expect him to come out gang busters. Kelly was 4-12 his first NFL season, the important thing is to put him in when he’s ready. Do I think he is “ ruinable”? Not if the offense is run based and quick release without a lot of QB reading to start( if Allen is in there) There is nothing like experience but sometimes it can be overwhelmingly bad so it’s “ Trust the process” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Just now, Buffalo Boy said: Kelly was 4-12 his first NFL season, the important thing is to put him in when he’s ready. Do I think he is “ ruinable”? Not if the offense is run based and quick release without a lot of QB reading to start( if Allen is in there) There is nothing like experience but sometimes it can be overwhelmingly bad so it’s “ Trust the process” I really hope he doesn't start early, not with a pretty sketchy oline like we have. Let em sort that out first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Luxy312 said: I can't fathom how anyone would be shocked by this. Unless he completely flops or one of the other guys shines like a diamond, he's the QB of the future. Kind of a snoozer from a news perspective. I don’t think anyone is shocked. It’s the #1 story on nfl.com though because it’s an important milestone in his development plan. It was part of the original plan, but it was also noted that he “earned” these extra reps and to rotate in with the 1s. Not all news has to be “shocking” to be interesting. Edited June 12, 2018 by YoloinOhio 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, H2o said: Yes, I do as well. But how encouraging would it be if he goes out there and makes some big time throws? I hope he shows well. I still think he beats the other two out in TC for the starting job. If he goes all Russell Wilson on us.... no complaints! If his mechanics and footwork stuff are as fixed as we heard from Palmer, I think his ridiculous arm talent will overshadow the other two in shorts for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 hour ago, CuddyDark said: Standing by my prediction McCarron will end up 3rd string. Who are you predicting that we're picking up to replace Peterman? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 hour ago, CuddyDark said: Standing by my prediction McCarron will end up 3rd string. Still holding to my prediction. He will be traded before the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Yeah Buddy, will the real bills starting qb please stand up??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 hour ago, FappyTheClown said: This actually made my day....I needed this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t have anything against McCarron or even Peterman tbh, just want best Qb to play. But I have found myself rooting for Allen to win the job. Only if he’s the best one, of course, but I guess I’m just hoping that he beats them out. This makes perfect sense because if he legitimately beats them it’s a good sign he’s closer to the guy that was worth picking at seven, then the fifth round prospect the nay sayers said he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Soda Popinski said: I believe Beane/McD/Daboll have a collective plan set up for Allen's development, and I believe they had it in place before they drafted him or any QB. I expect them to stick to it unless something crazy happens. Glad he's earning some reps with the 1s. I just wish we had someone on our coaching staff who has successfully developed a good nfl qb. This worries me big time. and did some people not think he wouldn’t get 1st team reps? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 PPl do need to temper expectations..... Our secondary is good He is probably gonna make some mistakes Lets not tar and feather him if it happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 hour ago, CuddyDark said: Standing by my prediction McCarron will end up 3rd string. If Allen ends up starting it wouldn't shock me if they kept Nate and traded or cut AJ. Not what I would likely do, but they really like Peterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: This makes perfect sense because if he legitimately beats them it’s a good sign he’s closer to the guy that was worth picking at seven, then the fifth round prospect the nay sayers said he is. I don’t want to rush him, especially because the talent on offense is bad, but shouldn’t a top 10 pick qb be able to beat or at least look physically superior to former 5th rounders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: I just wish we had someone on our coaching staff who has successfully developed a good nfl qb. This worries me big time. and did some people not think he wouldn’t get 1st team reps? No idea if some thought he would or wouldn't. The fact that we have no one who has successfully developed a QB is a little concerning, but McDermott has worked with Andy Reid, and with Rivera, both have developed guys before. Daboll worked with Brady a lot, and he sure as heck knows what terrible QBs look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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