OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 ...the Carolina Connection once again?....... Buffalo Bills named potential trade partner for Saints LB A.J. Klein by CBS Sports Updated 11:55 AM; Posted 11:45 AM By Ryan Talbot talbotrj@yahoo.com, Contributing writer A former Carolina Panthers linebacker is a potential trade candidate and CBS Sports' Ryan Wilson sees the Buffalo Bills as a fit. Wilson wrote about 10 post-June 1 trade candidates and listed New Orleans Saints linebacker A.J. Klein among the players who could be moved. When discussing a new home for the linebacker, Wilson mentioned the "linebacker-needy" Bills as a potential target. https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/06/buffalo_bills_named_potential_trade_partner_for_saints_lb_aj_klein_by_cbs_sports.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Wouldn't want to give up much in a trade for Klein.. How would the Saints feel about Adolphus Washington? Linebackers with similar ability and pay packets will be cut between now and the season starting.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I seriously doubt it. Not for just depth. Besides we already have players. These speculations are just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 If it is anything it his agent talking to sportswriter trying to drum up interest before he is cut. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) Writer remembers Bills need LB. Forgot we drafted Edmunds. Edited June 7, 2018 by PromoTheRobot 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crowing Rooster Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Monk said: ...agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Could have signed him last off-season and didnt. Doubt they give up draft picks for him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 At this point I don’t know if we need him. Tre and Milano are every down LBs for the next 10 years IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 (edited) Base salaries for the next three years are $4.1M, $4.1M and $9M....that's starters money and he's pretty limited to MLB. Its not just drafting Edmunds but McD loaded up on hybrid cover LBs with Neal, Julian Stanford, Corey Thompson--etc. If the Saints cut him Bills may take a look but a trade to take on those base salaries..no way. Edited June 8, 2018 by JoeF 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 If a receiver becomes a cutdown casualty (maybe from Denver?), I can see McDermott & co. making a move -- but it'll have to make sense to them. I don't see them as desperate. Whether or not we agree, my guess is they're largely comfortable with those already on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I posted this idea on March 15th. It's in the archives. https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/203005-trade-idea-aj-klein/?tab=comments#comment-4960980 Anyway, Klein would be a good fit. He actually started at SAM for theSaints in their base defense and moved to MIKE in nickel defenses. He would be really good depth and a much better SAM than Lorax. It would allow Lorax to be even more of a part time guy and gives you functional depth if Tremaine struggles. Also, I love me some Milano, but he isn't exactly a proven player. I like his potential, but it's too early to be totally sold. Klein makes a lot of sense and while his contract seemed huge on paper, I don't think there is a ton of guaranteed money there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I posted this idea on March 15th. It's in the archives. https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/203005-trade-idea-aj-klein/?tab=comments#comment-4960980 Anyway, Klein would be a good fit. He actually started at SAM for theSaints in their base defense and moved to MIKE in nickel defenses. He would be really good depth and a much better SAM than Lorax. It would allow Lorax to be even more of a part time guy and gives you functional depth if Tremaine struggles. Also, I love me some Milano, but he isn't exactly a proven player. I like his potential, but it's too early to be totally sold. Klein makes a lot of sense and while his contract seemed huge on paper, I don't think there is a ton of guaranteed money there. I don't think Klein is a bad idea if they can get him for a 7th. The Saints want to unload his contract and need to trade him instead of cutting him. His Cap Hit is a little high but if they sign him I think that Lorax may be let go which would make it about a 2.5 million hit. Klein's 2019 contract $'s would carry no Dead Money so there is not a lot of risk. Edited June 8, 2018 by ColoradoBills 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Klein struggled in his first year with New Orleans, earning PFF's second-worst grade among 4-3 outside linebackers. Tue, Dec 19, 2017 05:50:00 PM 3/9/2017: Signed a three-year, $15 million contract. The deal contains a $4 million signing bonus and $9.4 million guaranteed. 2018: $4.1 million, 2019: $4.1 million ($800,000 roster bonus), 2020: Free Agent http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8558/aj-klein 4.66sec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 minute ago, ALF said: Klein struggled in his first year with New Orleans, earning PFF's second-worst grade among 4-3 outside linebackers. Tue, Dec 19, 2017 05:50:00 PM 3/9/2017: Signed a three-year, $15 million contract. The deal contains a $4 million signing bonus and $9.4 million guaranteed. 2018: $4.1 million, 2019: $4.1 million ($800,000 roster bonus), 2020: Free Agent http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8558/aj-klein 4.66sec Signed for 2020 with a base of $9 million according to Spotrac http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints/a.j.-klein-12429/ Seriously backend loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Bills had a chance to sign him and didn't want him. Now they are going to trade a draft asset for him? Yep, makes sense. Fake News is now hitting the NFL off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, njbuff said: Bills had a chance to sign him and didn't want him. Now they are going to trade a draft asset for him? Yep, makes sense. Fake News is now hitting the NFL off season. It’s not fake news, it’s just speculation by the author based on his perception of Buffalo’s need at linebacker. These guys have to write something during the offseason.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: It’s not fake news, it’s just speculation by the author based on his perception of Buffalo’s need at linebacker. These guys have to write something during the offseason.... Don't these fools know the Bills had every chance to sign him last off season and they declined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I didn't want him last offseason, and my opinion hasn't changed. If you want to bring in a LB at this point in the offseason, let's go after Navorro Bowman or Michael Wilhoite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, JoeF said: Signed for 2020 with a base of $9 million according to Spotrac http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints/a.j.-klein-12429/ Seriously backend loaded. Is 20 essentially a voidable year that both parties are not expecting to happen but helps spread a signing bonus a little? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 9 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: I posted this idea on March 15th. It's in the archives. https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/203005-trade-idea-aj-klein/?tab=comments#comment-4960980 Anyway, Klein would be a good fit. He actually started at SAM for theSaints in their base defense and moved to MIKE in nickel defenses. He would be really good depth and a much better SAM than Lorax. It would allow Lorax to be even more of a part time guy and gives you functional depth if Tremaine struggles. Also, I love me some Milano, but he isn't exactly a proven player. I like his potential, but it's too early to be totally sold. Klein makes a lot of sense and while his contract seemed huge on paper, I don't think there is a ton of guaranteed money there. .. ...my apology...did a search before starting thread and saw yours in archive but could not post to it............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 25 minutes ago, njbuff said: Don't these fools know the Bills had every chance to sign him last off season and they declined? Sadly, probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 The only way I’d want Klein on the Bills is if the saints cut him and then he retired....then we hired him to be a ticket taker at the Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 52 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Is 20 essentially a voidable year that both parties are not expecting to happen but helps spread a signing bonus a little? I don't think so, except in the sense that every year a player's salary is not guaranteed, is a 'voidable year'. His signing bonus was only $4M so it's only $1M spread into 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: Is 20 essentially a voidable year that both parties are not expecting to happen but helps spread a signing bonus a little? I guess I consider every year a voidable year since there will be no cap hit for letting him go after the 2018 season. The Bills would be on the hook for none of the signing bonus. I think I would rather have the $4.1 million for another need or to rollover unless there is an injury at LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: .. ...my apology...did a search before starting thread and saw yours in archive but could not post to it............... No no worries at all! I'm just happy I had this speculation before some of these so called reporters. It's a cool feeling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I don't think the Bills are going to take on Klein's (relatively) massive contract. Klein's deal averages out to 5 million per year, this team didn't want Preston Brown for a little less than that so I doubt they give up a draft pick to take on that contract. I think if Klein is released then the Bills would be very interested because he is a guy McD is probably familiar with and fits a need (outside of Milano and Edmunds who does the team have at LB?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't think so, except in the sense that every year a player's salary is not guaranteed, is a 'voidable year'. His signing bonus was only $4M so it's only $1M spread into 2020. Right, but for a team that spends TO THE CAP... that pulled money out of the year signed. The saints often tag extra years on short contracts to do that. The term “voidable” put aside, it’s a stupid salary they have no intention of ever paying and gets the player back into free agency when they want to get there (or paid handsomely) while allowing the team to shift a few bucks down the line. Putting a 9m salary may as well be putting a 30m for a guy like Klein. He’s not playing that season in a saints uniform under this contract. Why have the year then? Create the flow you want in the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: No no worries at all! I'm just happy I had this speculation before some of these so called reporters. It's a cool feeling! ...as soon as McBeane gets fired (shortly), throw your hat in the ring!!......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Probably not. Everyone thought we were gonna sign him last off-season but seemed we showed zero interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 On 6/7/2018 at 8:28 PM, thenorthremembers said: Could have signed him last off-season and didnt. Doubt they give up draft picks for him now. Exactly, that Panther/Bills connection didn’t get signed as a Free Agent last year. I would guess they would pass on a trade or a signing unless the Saints offered him a lot more last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 18 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: Exactly, that Panther/Bills connection didn’t get signed as a Free Agent last year. I would guess they would pass on a trade or a signing unless the Saints offered him a lot more last year The saints didn't let him leave town. Klein seems a tad overpaid, but he's a solid LB and I'd love to have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 On 6/8/2018 at 10:04 PM, njbuff said: Don't these fools know the Bills had every chance to sign him last off season and they declined? They de-Kleined eh? (I'll get my coat) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: They de-Kleined eh? (I'll get my coat) Nice pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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