Through Committee work, Kim Pegula earns respect of fellow NFL Owners

[Logic]

Given that recent discussions on these forums about whether or not Kim Pegula is qualified to be team president, I thought this article was interesting and informative. I won't post the whole thing, of course, due to forum rules, but have included a few key quotes. I suggest reading the whole thing if you have time. Obviously, her membership on all these committees and her involvement with various aspects of the league are not the sole deciding factors in terms of her being qualified or not...but this article certainly paints a picture of a very capable, intelligent, involved woman. I believe the Bills are in good hands.

http://buffalonews.com/2018/05/25/fellow-nfl-owners-laud-kim-pegulas-committee-work/?utm_campaign=puma&utm_medium=social&utm_source=Twitter#link_time=1527294828

"If every owner in the league was as operationally proficient and knowledgeable as Kim is, I think we would be in a stronger place," said Jonathan Kraft, president of the New England Patriots and son of Pats owner Robert Kraft."

"She's well-respected," said Arizona Cardinals owner Michael Bidwill, a member of Business Ventures and Foundation. "She's obviously very intelligent. She works hard at trying to bring fresh ideas to the league, to the committees, making sure the ideas that are being floated around have been well thought through. Her voice is one that people listen to. I think she comes from a perspective of making the league and all of our properties more fan friendly, so her input is greatly valued."

"Kim is a consensus-builder, has great business experience and she really adds to the discussion," Jacksonville Jaguars onwer and Businss Ventures chairman Shad Khan said. "She has a lot of experience in different industries and she brings that thinking and point of view to the forefront. Then, once a decision is made, she stands behind it. It’s evident that committee members value her in every respect – as a person as well as for her insights and experience. On business ventures, typically as various agreements are expiring, we ask ourselves, ‘How do we make them better? Who are our prospective partners? How do we value the financial end of the partnership?’ Kim has great perspectives on all of this.”

 

Edited May 26, 2018 by Logic

[machine gun kelly]

She is fantastic and I’m not surprised she received such praise.  It feels great to know we have ownership, Mgmt, scouting, and coaching that is. Top notch and has a real plan for sustained success.

 

doesnt hurt she is by far the most beautiful owner on top of how intelligent she is. Towards this team.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Good to hear. She has a huge challenge with the stadium. That's honestly all I care about. Find something that everyone believes can work. Secure the Bills in Western New York for the next 30 years. 

38 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

 

doesnt hurt she is by far the most beautiful owner on top of how intelligent she is. Towards this team.

Let's be real, Mark Davis is the most beautiful owner. 

[Just Joshin']

Wait.....this must be fake news.  I read here that she is not qualified to run a hot dog stand.

 

Glad the Bills have respected representation with the rest of the owners.

[eball]

Kim is awesome.  The Bills and Sabres are extremely lucky that they got both of the Pegulas in the ownership deal.

[Kirby Jackson]

Without being overly negative what would you expect these other owner’s to say? “We think that Kim is incompetent. She’s totally over her head and has been a disaster. No one listens to a word she says.” This is article does nothing to influence opinions on Kim’s qualifications.

 

With that being said there is an interesting perspective that she can provide. We always think of the voice that she can bring as a woman. That goes without saying. One thing that is overlooked is that the Pegula’s are regular people. They were once season ticket holders. They eat fast food. Their kids listen to hip-hop. I’m comfortable in saying that Kim Pegula is the most “regular” person in that room. Her perspective is way more modern and empathizes with the fans.

 

These committees are formed and try to do what they think is in the league’s best interest. The problem is that those guys are all old, out-of-touch, curmudgeons. When was the last time Bob McNair waited in line for a hot dog? Kim can relate to the consumers in a way that the rest of the NFL owners couldn’t dream of. 

[BadLandsMeanie]

1 hour ago, Dalton said:

Wait.....this must be fake news.  I read here that she is not qualified to run a hot dog stand.

 

 

She's not. She kept putting kimchi on the hot dogs and she got fired.

[ThunderingHerd]

Fellow Fairport Red Raider alumni, go Kim!

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

 what would you expect these other owner’s to say?  

 

 

 

"Honey, can you get us some sandwiches in here?  Thanks Kitten."

[Logic]

2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Without being overly negative what would you expect these other owner’s to say? “We think that Kim is incompetent. She’s totally over her head and has been a disaster. No one listens to a word she says.” This is article does nothing to influence opinions on Kim’s qualifications.

 

Really? NOTHING?

The glowing endorsements from multiple respected NFL owners -- not only praising her but going into detail and providing more than was asked -- does not a single thing for you?

Okay then. To each their own.

[Big Turk]

I mean c'mon. Whhat do the other owners know?? I mean they are clueless...just listen to what all these posters here have to say about her...she is a completely unqualified waitress. ??

[Kirby Jackson]

14 minutes ago, Logic said:

Really? NOTHING?

The glowing endorsements from multiple respected NFL owners -- not only praising her but going into detail and providing more than was asked -- does not a single thing for you?

Okay then. To each their own.

Not at all, I would expect her business partners to say nice things in public. It does nothing for me. Find someone that has a differing opinion in that group and I’ll be impressed. Take it a step further, find articles of these NFL owners talking bad about one another anywhere. This is a bunch of nothing. 

[ToGoGo]

3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Without being overly negative what would you expect these other owner’s to say? “We think that Kim is incompetent. She’s totally over her head and has been a disaster. No one listens to a word she says.” This is article does nothing to influence opinions on Kim’s qualifications.

 

With that being said there is an interesting perspective that she can provide. We always think of the voice that she can bring as a woman. That goes without saying. One thing that is overlooked is that the Pegula’s are regular people. They were once season ticket holders. They eat fast food. Their kids listen to hip-hop. I’m comfortable in saying that Kim Pegula is the most “regular” person in that room. Her perspective is way more modern and empathizes with the fans.

 

These committees are formed and try to do what they think is in the league’s best interest. The problem is that those guys are all old, out-of-touch, curmudgeons. When was the last time Bob McNair waited in line for a hot dog? Kim can relate to the consumers in a way that the rest of the NFL owners couldn’t dream of. 

 

What I read was a bunch of vague praise. She's a member of a bunch of committees, she's "involved", she has a "voice". In my business career I've worked with many people who were a member of every little thing and always had something to say (rarely of value) and sometimes they were even listened to, but it never meant they needed to be any higher than low-level or mid-level positions. I've yet to see anything to show that Kim Pegula has earned that position other than being comfortable hanging out around other billionaires.

 

She seems ambitious and motivated, even pushy. All good, most of the time. But again, those qualities are supplementary to wisdom, experience, level-headedness, shrewdness, etc. From what I've seen, I have not seen anything to tell me she has earned this position in any way other than being Terry Pegula's wife. Seeing as how incompetent Pegula is as a sports owner and talent evaluator, I have big concerns about Kim Pegula. 

[Direhard Fan]

I would expect down the road they would look for another president.  She is part owner and would be too tied up in this position for a long period.  Do not sell her short.  She is a smart women.

[LeGOATski]

Become a HoF owner.

 

That would be a nice achievement.

[Bad Things Man]

At least her focus will be on the teams and not which reporter/intern to bang....

[WhoTom]

8 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

what would you expect these other owner’s to say?

 

If they didn't respect her they could simply say nothing or "She's very nice" and leave it at that. The fact that they complimented her, and gave specifics, suggests that the praise is genuine.

 

There's a reason she's listed as the co-owner, not the "owner's wife." I think it's pretty clear that she's not just eye-candy.

 

 

[PromoTheRobot]

5 hours ago, musichunch said:

 

What I read was a bunch of vague praise. She's a member of a bunch of committees, she's "involved", she has a "voice". In my business career I've worked with many people who were a member of every little thing and always had something to say (rarely of value) and sometimes they were even listened to, but it never meant they needed to be any higher than low-level or mid-level positions. I've yet to see anything to show that Kim Pegula has earned that position other than being comfortable hanging out around other billionaires.

 

She seems ambitious and motivated, even pushy. All good, most of the time. But again, those qualities are supplementary to wisdom, experience, level-headedness, shrewdness, etc. From what I've seen, I have not seen anything to tell me she has earned this position in any way other than being Terry Pegula's wife. Seeing as how incompetent Pegula is as a sports owner and talent evaluator, I have big concerns about Kim Pegula. 

 

Just curious. Is the standard the same for men as women? I've never seen a man described as pushy.

[LabattBlue]

6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Not at all, I would expect her business partners to say nice things in public. It does nothing for me. Find someone that has a differing opinion in that group and I’ll be impressed. Take it a step further, find articles of these NFL owners talking bad about one another anywhere. This is a bunch of nothing. 

^^^ Right on the money.

[Kirby Jackson]

40 minutes ago, WhoTom said:

 

If they didn't respect her they could simply say nothing or "She's very nice" and leave it at that. The fact that they complimented her, and gave specifics, suggests that the praise is genuine.

 

There's a reason she's listed as the co-owner, not the "owner's wife." I think it's pretty clear that she's not just eye-candy.

 

 

She’s definitely involved. As I said though, find me some quotes of owners talking bad about other owners. They ONLY say positives. They are business partners!! It’s really stretching it to think that this means ANYTHING.

[oldmanfan]

7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

She’s definitely involved. As I said though, find me some quotes of owners talking bad about other owners. They ONLY say positives. They are business partners!! It’s really stretching it to think that this means ANYTHING.

The negative comments about her strike me as jealousy.

[NoSaint]

49 minutes ago, WhoTom said:

 

If they didn't respect her they could simply say nothing or "She's very nice" and leave it at that. The fact that they complimented her, and gave specifics, suggests that the praise is genuine.

 

There's a reason she's listed as the co-owner, not the "owner's wife." I think it's pretty clear that she's not just eye-candy.

 

 

 

There wasn’t much in the way of specifics. She could be great, or they could be playing nice. 

 

I dint think anyone here is saying she’s stupid and just eye candy, but we don’t know much about what she’s bringing to the room yet. 

[Kirby Jackson]

10 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

The negative comments about her strike me as jealousy.

Really? That’s what you are taking from this conversation? Are you impressed that her business partners said nice things about her? Don’t you think that’s expected? I keep asking people to find owners talking negative about other owners. I can find 20,000 quotes of them talking nice about each other but may not find one of them badmouthing each other. My whole point is that owners saying nice things means nothing because that’s all that they say about each other.

Edited May 26, 2018 by Kirby Jackson

[boater]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Really? That’s what you are taking from this conversation? Are you impressed that her business partners said nice things about her? Don’t you think that’s expected? I keep asking people to find owners talking negative about other owners. I can find 20,000 quotes of them talking nice about each other but may not find one of them badmouthing each other. My whole point is that owners saying nice things means nothing because that’s all that they say about each other.

 

Did it ever occur to you that when someone says something nice about Kim Pegs, they may actually mean it.

 

Is it hard going through life so cynical?

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, boater said:

 

Did it ever occur to you that when someone says something nice about Kim Pegs, they may actually mean it.

 

Is it hard going through life so cynical?

Again, find owners saying negative things about other owners and I’ll be impressed. I didn’t say anything negative about her. In fact, I said the fact that she’s a “real person” is a blessing in that room. She can provide a perspective that Bob McNair can’t. The point was that it means absolutely nothing that, when asked on the record, her business partners said positive things about her. It would have been a story if they didn’t. Every single time owners are asked about other owners on the record they give the same lip service. It’s not just her, the same things are being said now about Gayle Benson and the new guy in Carolina. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

11 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Without being overly negative what would you expect these other owner’s to say? “We think that Kim is incompetent. She’s totally over her head and has been a disaster. No one listens to a word she says.”

 

Well, that kind of thing *was* said about Georgia Frontiere when she took over as owner of the Rams in 1979.  So perhaps attitudes have changed slightly after all.

[ColoradoBills]

11 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Without being overly negative what would you expect these other owner’s to say? “We think that Kim is incompetent. She’s totally over her head and has been a disaster. No one listens to a word she says.” This is article does nothing to influence opinions on Kim’s qualifications.

 

With that being said there is an interesting perspective that she can provide. We always think of the voice that she can bring as a woman. That goes without saying. One thing that is overlooked is that the Pegula’s are regular people. They were once season ticket holders. They eat fast food. Their kids listen to hip-hop. I’m comfortable in saying that Kim Pegula is the most “regular” person in that room. Her perspective is way more modern and empathizes with the fans.

 

These committees are formed and try to do what they think is in the league’s best interest. The problem is that those guys are all old, out-of-touch, curmudgeons. When was the last time Bob McNair waited in line for a hot dog? Kim can relate to the consumers in a way that the rest of the NFL owners couldn’t dream of. 

 

You do contradict yourself a little in this response.

Maybe you could of started with the 3rd paragraph first.  LOL

 

Kim and Terry are already ranked high in many national reviews on both "likeability" and "business sense".

 

We Bill's fans we should be glad we have owners as respected as the Pegulas. 

 

 

[Kirby Jackson]

6 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

You do contradict yourself a little in this response.

Maybe you could of started with the 3rd paragraph first.  LOL

 

Kim and Terry are already ranked high in many national reviews on both "likeability" and "business sense".

 

We Bill's fans we should be glad we have owners as respected as the Pegulas. 

 

 

2 separate points: 

1. The Pegula’s are likable and provide a more grounded perspective.

2. Owners are only going to say positive things about other owners in the media. I’m not taking their kind words as anything but lip service. They may believe; they may not. They were going to say positive things regardless. They do about all of the other owners. We are reading the praise of Gayle Benson here right now. It’s not different.

[ColoradoBills]

30 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

2 separate points: 

1. The Pegula’s are likable and provide a more grounded perspective.

2. Owners are only going to say positive things about other owners in the media. I’m not taking their kind words as anything but lip service. They may believe; they may not. They were going to say positive things regardless. They do about all of the other owners. We are reading the praise of Gayle Benson here right now. It’s not different.

 

I understand your meaning about a "fluff" piece and all.  I will venture to say that Kim Pegula over the next few years will become a

larger voice in all things NFL.  I can't prove that statement but for some reason I believe it to be true.

This was a part of the article I liked most. 

 

But it goes beyond Pegula simply making herself available to take a seat around a conference table several times per year or jump on one of the conference calls each committee has.

It's also about the genuine effort Pegula pours into each of her committees. That has gotten noticed, because it isn't the case with every participant.

"I think she puts the time in," one league owner, requesting anonymity, said. "There are other people who act like they do, but don't really put the time in or care to understand. She works it."

[Kirby Jackson]

11 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I understand your meaning about a "fluff" piece and all.  I will venture to say that Kim Pegula over the next few years will become a

larger voice in all things NFL.  I can't prove that statement but for some reason I believe it to be true.

This was a part of the article I liked most. 

 

But it goes beyond Pegula simply making herself available to take a seat around a conference table several times per year or jump on one of the conference calls each committee has.

It's also about the genuine effort Pegula pours into each of her committees. That has gotten noticed, because it isn't the case with every participant.

"I think she puts the time in," one league owner, requesting anonymity, said. "There are other people who act like they do, but don't really put the time in or care to understand. She works it."

FWIW, I think that she is a very, very important presence in that room. She is young, a minority and a woman. Kim looks a lot different than the rest of that room. She can a totally different perspective from the McNair’s and Kroenke’s of the world.

 

The NFL has been getting killed recently because they don’t know their consumers. They are horrendous on social issues and every decision that is made is reactionary. Kim can be a “voice of the people” in a way. She is so much more tuned in to the real world. If she can gain experience and continue learning the business Kim could be an important asset for the league. She can be the checks and balances. When a bunch of old, rich, white guys think something is a good idea she can raise her hand and object. She, unlike the others, knows her consumers.

[oldmanfan]

3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Really? That’s what you are taking from this conversation? Are you impressed that her business partners said nice things about her? Don’t you think that’s expected? I keep asking people to find owners talking negative about other owners. I can find 20,000 quotes of them talking nice about each other but may not find one of them badmouthing each other. My whole point is that owners saying nice things means nothing because that’s all that they say about each other.

Well yes that's what I'm taking away because that's what I wrote.   You have a couple that have been very successful in business, and Kim is lending her work ethic and expertise into the business of the league.  Her peers recognize it and are complementary.  Yet you and other want to be negative or poor-poor that.  Why?  Well, one thing could be envy.

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

Well yes that's what I'm taking away because that's what I wrote.   You have a couple that have been very successful in business, and Kim is lending her work ethic and expertise into the business of the league.  Her peers recognize it and are complementary.  Yet you and other want to be negative or poor-poor that.  Why?  Well, one thing could be envy.

 

That is one of the oddest takes I’ve seen here. I’m actually befuddled that people can read this as anything but lip service. It doesn’t  take much intelligence to realize that this is a total puff piece (which is the point that I continue to make). My takeaway from this isn’t anything other than “of course they will say nice things. They all say nice things about each other.” The original premise of the thread was that this piece was supposed to validate her in some way. It doesn’t. It is a bunch of business partners saying nice things about each other. Also, the sun is hot. 

[ColoradoBills]

10 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

FWIW, I think that she is a very, very important presence in that room. She is young, a minority and a woman. Kim looks a lot different than the rest of that room. She can a totally different perspective from the McNair’s and Kroenke’s of the world.

 

The NFL has been getting killed recently because they don’t know their consumers. They are horrendous on social issues and every decision that is made is reactionary. Kim can be a “voice of the people” in a way. She is so much more tuned in to the real world. If she can gain experience and continue learning the business Kim could be an important asset for the league. She can be the checks and balances. When a bunch of old, rich, white guys think something is a good idea she can raise her hand and object. She, unlike the others, knows her consumers.

 

I think it's worth a lot.  You mentioned all the things I was thinking.  I (we) can't prove it but I think those "old men" will soon start to say, "if Kim thinks

it's a good idea, so do I."  That is as long as she can be sure they all are making money!  LOL

 

If that starts to happen, don't be surprised to see the Bill's football team "get some breaks" along the way too.

[oldmanfan]

2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

 

That is one of the oddest takes I’ve seen here. I’m actually befuddled that people can read this as anything but lip service. It doesn’t  take much intelligence to realize that this is a total puff piece (which is the point that I continue to make). My takeaway from this isn’t anything other than “of course they will say nice things. They all say nice things about each other.” The original premise of the thread was that this piece was supposed to validate her in some way. It doesn’t. It is a bunch of business partners saying nice things about each other. Also, the sun is hot. 

Make your point all you want.  I'll continue to make mine, which is going out of your way to diminish positive comments from her peers suggests you are envious of her talent for some reason.

 

Shall we continue to go back and forth?

[Lfod]

Well for people like me that strongly believe in the owners and staff, this is just more welcome positive news. 

[Kirby Jackson]

2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Make your point all you want.  I'll continue to make mine, which is going out of your way to diminish positive comments from her peers suggests you are envious of her talent for some reason.

 

Shall we continue to go back and forth?

Yeah, because you aren’t comprehending that they aren’t being diminished. They are the same comments that you will find about every other owner. They all sing the praises of one another!! This piece doesn’t validate anything. It is “water is wet.” It’s like a GM talking about his draft picks. I’m waiting for the day a GM drafts a guy and says “we don’t think that he will be a good player.” It’s the same thing. If the GM says “we like the guys that we drafted” does that surprise you? It’s the exact same thing.

[oldmanfan]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

Yeah, because you aren’t comprehending that they aren’t being diminished. They are the same comments that you will find about every other owner. They all sing the praises of one another!! This piece doesn’t validate anything. It is “water is wet.” It’s like a GM talking about his draft picks. I’m waiting for the day a GM drafts a guy and says “we don’t think that he will be a good player.” It’s the same thing. If the GM says “we like the guys that we drafted” does that surprise you? It’s the exact same thing.

You are diminishing their comments, saying they either aren't sincere or mean nothing.  Quit pretending you aren't.  Only thing worse than comments like that are a refusal to stand by them.

[Kirby Jackson]

2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

You are diminishing their comments, saying they either aren't sincere or mean nothing.  Quit pretending you aren't.  Only thing worse than comments like that are a refusal to stand by them.

I’m saying that they mean nothing just like when a GM says “we like our draft class” it means nothing. That’s what they are supposed to say!! They may mean it (they may not). They aren’t going to say anything but positive things though. Go find me some quotes of NFL owners talking bad about other NFL owners. Find me something in the last 5 - 10 years where they criticize the capabilities of another owner. I feel like a broken record but I guess you just aren’t understanding.

[oldmanfan]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

I’m saying that they mean nothing just like when a GM says “we like our draft class” it means nothing. That’s what they are supposed to say!! They may mean it (they may not). They aren’t going to say anything but positive things though. Go find me some quotes of NFL owners talking bad about other NFL owners. Find me something in the last 5 - 10 years where they criticize the capabilities of another owner. I feel like a broken record but I guess you just aren’t understanding.

I understand perfectly.  I understand you have a sensitive spot about this, and that I called you on it.  And that you don't like it.

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, oldmanfan said:

I understand perfectly.  I understand you have a sensitive spot about this, and that I called you on it.  And that you don't like it.

Not sensitive at all, just banging my head against the wall that you don’t get it. Owners saying nice things about other owners isn’t teaching us anything. When you go to dinner at your in-laws and they ask you how everything is the answer is “it’s great.” It doesn’t mean that it is good or bad. It is just what you have to say. That’s been my entire point. It has nothing to do with Kim being good or bad.