Buffalo Bills get UDFA steal in OT Ike Boettger from Iowa

[CuddyDark]

Good. Stash him on IR during camp.

[turftoe]

Looks like a big waist bender to me.

[Shaw66]

Watch the video.   He looks pretty good.  Gets pushed back into the QB too much - doesn't look strong enough to hold his ground. 

 

But watch how he's mastered his assignments.   He's good at handing off a pass rusher to the guard and picking it up the outside rush.   Also gets to the second level nicely in the run game.   Kind of guy who will do his job.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

What is surprising to me is the Bills start rookie canp today ans we have still yet to see the official UDFA signings. 

 

I think the two are related.  They have a bunch of guys invited in for tryouts, possibly waiting until they decide there.

 

6 hours ago, Skins Malone said:

Very true.  Just curious on what they were doing different.  

 

Found this, which was interesting.  Not sure how common it is.

http://www.stoneclinic.com/achilles-tendon

 

[Sky Diver]

Not bad. He needs to get stronger and it looks like he can be thrown off balance rather easily.

[Shaw66]

1 minute ago, Sky Diver said:

Not bad. He needs to get stronger and it looks like he can be thrown off balance rather easily.

Right.   That plus his injury are why he wasn't drafted.   But he looks like a hard worker, knows his assignments and executes.   That's the kind of guy McDermott likes.  They'll work on his technique.  

[KollegeStudnet]

Typical Buffalo guy. I’d love to see this guy prove himself. 

[Magnum Force]

He's no Louie Lastik

[TC in St. Louis]

2 hours ago, njbuff said:

I guess the Bills need a 103 man roster this year because the UDFA's are making the team.

 

Anyways, wake me up when even ONE of them makes the team.

 

And if they don't,  you gonna just sleep through the season, van Winkle?

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

7 hours ago, Soda Popinski said:

I think Suggs has had two of them, i know Kyle has had at least one as well, his was a partial tear and they had to fully detach it then reattach.   Modern medicine is unreal, things that 30 years ago ended careers are now 10 month recoveries. 

 

 

...didn't Takeo have one as well?......pretty sure he recovered and continued with Chargers.............

[Green Lightning]

10 hours ago, Soda Popinski said:

Rooting for any and every Olineman we have under contract, we need 5 to step up and get the job done. 

Yepper. This is where I'm at. 

[njbuff]

3 hours ago, TC in St. Louis said:

 

And if they don't,  you gonna just sleep through the season, van Winkle?

 

 

Yep, I am getting old.

[IgotBILLStopay]

Thanks for this find Yolo.

[North Buffalo]

22 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Yeah it used to be a career killer. But like anything, over time techniques and equipment get better. 

Rehab work and repair techniques.  Achilles tendons are low blood flow areas.  Your blood carries bodies that repair tissues. So that area needs to be stimulated early and often once repair is done.  Rehab consistency and focus is essential to successful repair.  Understanding it takes awhile and consistent pt even after feeling better is important and better understood.

[Bill from NYC]

23 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Bodine is bad at C. I’d try him at OG to see if taking snapping duties away helps.  I think Groy starts there. 

 

Not anymore. 

Doc, isn't that the injury that ended Bryce Paup's career? If so, I sure am glad that times have changed. I can only imagine the career Paup would have had.

 

It really would be a steal if this kid could develop into a RT. The Bills are coming dangerously close to becoming the Bills of yore with a piss poor OL. The young fans should take note of the 2017 Giants. They had an OL like we used to have and wound up drafting at #2.

[Da webster guy]

On 5/11/2018 at 8:18 AM, Soda Popinski said:

Rooting for any and every Olineman we have under contract, we need 5 to step up and get the job done. 

im optimistic but at this point we only have Dawk and Groy for sure, maybe Vlad as the third starter.   If we can somehow pull off a good O-line by opening day I'll be pleasantly surprised. 

[Doc]

50 minutes ago, North Buffalo said:

Rehab work and repair techniques.  Achilles tendons are low blood flow areas.  Your blood carries bodies that repair tissues. So that area needs to be stimulated early and often once repair is done.  Rehab consistency and focus is essential to successful repair.  Understanding it takes awhile and consistent pt even after feeling better is important and better understood.

 

Yes rehab is key.

[Fixxxer]

On 11/5/2018 at 9:16 AM, TigerJ said:

Iowa has long been considered OL U due to their head coach, Kirk Ferentz.

 

we drafted one in 2010, Kyle Calloway (†), RT, in the seventh round in 2010, everyone thought he was a steal, but he couldn't make it to the regular roster. Let's hope this kid can help us at RT. 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:

Doc, isn't that the injury that ended Bryce Paup's career? If so, I sure am glad that times have changed. I can only imagine the career Paup would have had.

 

It really would be a steal if this kid could develop into a RT. The Bills are coming dangerously close to becoming the Bills of yore with a piss poor OL. The young fans should take note of the 2017 Giants. They had an OL like we used to have and wound up drafting at #2.

 

I couldn't remember Paup's history so I looked it up and couldn't find much.  What I did find is he played for the Bills for only 3 seasons (1995-97, I thought it was much longer) and then retired after the 2000 season. 

[Fadingpain]

Joe Devlin approves of this signing.

 

[Nihilarian]

I think to look at this kid and Wyatt Teller to be starters any time soon is a true pipe dream. Usually, kids taken later than the third round are huge question marks and usually end up on the practice squad or as backups.

 

Buffalo just lost above average players at LT, LG, OC and that OG was an all-pro. Expecting a fifth-round draft pick to replace him is delusional. This reminds me of trading away All-pro LT Jason Peters and then attempting to replace him with Demtress Bell, a 7th round pick. 

 

Like Bill stated for almost two decades we Bills fans have watched regime after regime screw the pooch on wannabes for the O line that end up allowing the QB to get killed. He also might be right in the Bills having the #2 pick next year because of having the worst O line in the league...and this with a once in a lifetime QB with the most powerful arm the NFL has ever seen. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

Corn fed!!!!

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Nihilarian said:

I think to look at this kid and Wyatt Teller to be starters any time soon is a true pipe dream. Usually, kids taken later than the third round are huge question marks and usually end up on the practice squad or as backups.

 

Buffalo just lost above average players at LT, LG, OC and that OG was an all-pro. Expecting a fifth-round draft pick to replace him is delusional. This reminds me of trading away All-pro LT Jason Peters and then attempting to replace him with Demtress Bell, a 7th round pick. 

 

Like Bill stated for almost two decades we Bills fans have watched regime after regime screw the pooch on wannabes for the O line that end up allowing the QB to get killed. He also might be right in the Bills having the #2 pick next year because of having the worst O line in the league...and this with a once in a lifetime QB with the most powerful arm the NFL has ever seen. 

 

Disagree.  Boettger, yeah.

[Rubes]

6 hours ago, Doc said:

 

I couldn't remember Paup's history so I looked it up and couldn't find much.  What I did find is he played for the Bills for only 3 seasons (1995-97, I thought it was much longer) and then retired after the 2000 season. 

 

Not sure about Paup, but pretty sure Takeo Spikes suffered one. I don't recall if it ended his career, but people are generally not the same after repair.

For some positions, it doesn't matter as much. Those who don't have to run much or very fast can maintain careers at this point. So an OL or a pocket QB could, but not so much a WR, RB, CB, or LB, for instance. Tyrod would be screwed if he ever had one.

 

Dan Marino had a pretty bad one, got it repaired, and continued to play for several seasons, but with a noticeable limp. But he was never a runner.

 

Edited May 12, 2018 by Rubes

[stuvian]

On 5/11/2018 at 8:25 AM, co_springs_billsfan said:

Ike "Jason Peters" Boettger

 

let's hope we handle this situation better than we did Peters

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 hours ago, Fixxxer said:

 

we drafted one in 2010, Kyle Calloway (†), RT, in the seventh round in 2010, everyone thought he was a steal, but he couldn't make it to the regular roster. Let's hope this kid can help us at RT. 

 

OMG let's hope this story ends differently http://www.thegazette.com/subject/sports/former-hawkeye-kyle-calloway-killed-by-train-20160705

[3rdand12]

On 5/11/2018 at 9:20 AM, ddaryl said:

awesome ness

On 5/11/2018 at 9:20 AM, ddaryl said:

awesome ness

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

I think to look at this kid and Wyatt Teller to be starters any time soon is a true pipe dream. Usually, kids taken later than the third round are huge question marks and usually end up on the practice squad or as backups.

 

Buffalo just lost above average players at LT, LG, OC and that OG was an all-pro. Expecting a fifth-round draft pick to replace him is delusional. This reminds me of trading away All-pro LT Jason Peters and then attempting to replace him with Demtress Bell, a 7th round pick. 

 

Like Bill stated for almost two decades we Bills fans have watched regime after regime screw the pooch on wannabes for the O line that end up allowing the QB to get killed. He also might be right in the Bills having the #2 pick next year because of having the worst O line in the league...and this with a once in a lifetime QB with the most powerful arm the NFL has ever seen. 

 

There is a difference between All-pro (poll of football writers) and Pro-bowl (vote of fans).  The former is considered a higher honor than the latter.

Richie Incognito and Eric Wood have both been to the pro-bowl (in Incognito's case multiple times).  Neither has been accorded all-pro honors.

 

Otherwise, bunch of good points.  At the present time, the Bills appear to me to have significantly under-invested in OL.  The only mitigating factor would be if they happen to have identified higher-talent guys who slid due to concerns that no longer apply such as injury or ??.  For example, 7th round pick Seantrel Henderson (from whom we got a season and a half before illness then weed-iness caught up to him)

 

Another point is that inexperience is cumultive on an OL, where your play depends very much on the play of the guy next to you.  So Dawkins might be fine next to Cog and Wood, but playing next to a rookie LG and a less experienced center maybe not so good.

[smuvtalker]

On 5/11/2018 at 7:45 AM, Gugny said:

He's no Gus Walkens.

Or Geir Gudmundsen

[Bill from NYC]

22 hours ago, Doc said:

 

I couldn't remember Paup's history so I looked it up and couldn't find much.  What I did find is he played for the Bills for only 3 seasons (1995-97, I thought it was much longer) and then retired after the 2000 season. 

I found it. He tore his right Achilles tendon.

[Sky Diver]

He’s played both guard and tackle. Where is he the best fit?

[Logic]

There are four positions from which I'd always like to have at least one play on the practice squad:

WR, RB, OT, CB

Uber athletic WRs and RBs that need some seasoning can gain it on the practice squad and be ready at a moment's notice to fill in on Sundays. Tackles can spend time in the weight room and going over the fine points of technique. Corners, you can never have enough of, so having an extra one ready to go on the PS is a good thing. 

So I hope Boettger DOES stick on the practice squad. I hope one or two of the many young WRs on the roster (McCloud, Proehl, Foster, Dupre, Reilly, etc) sticks, and I hope Levi Wallace from 'Bama sticks around if he doesn't make the 53.

[Nihilarian]

On ‎5‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 6:13 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

There is a difference between All-pro (poll of football writers) and Pro-bowl (vote of fans).  The former is considered a higher honor than the latter.

Richie Incognito and Eric Wood have both been to the pro-bowl (in Incognito's case multiple times).  Neither has been accorded all-pro honors.

 

Otherwise, a bunch of good points.  At the present time, the Bills appear to me to have significantly under-invested in OL.  The only mitigating factor would be if they happen to have identified higher-talent guys who slid due to concerns that no longer apply such as injury or ??.  For example, 7th round pick Seantrel Henderson (from whom we got a season and a half before illness then weediness caught up to him)

 

Another point is that inexperience is cumulative on an OL, where your play depends very much on the play of the guy next to you.  So Dawkins might be fine next to Cog and Wood, but playing next to a rookie LG and a less experienced center maybe not so good.

 

I stand corrected on that all pro point and should have said pro bowler. Incognito was graded as the best lineman on the Bills and some sites have graded him as one of the top offensive guards in the league.

 

Nevertheless, I feel that Incognito elevated the play of Glenn, Woods, and Dawkins. I also think there will be a big problem with continuity along with a drop off in quality play with all the new, young players on that line.

 

Not to mention that I don't think very highly of the O line coach Juan Castillio who IMO is nowhere near as good as Kromer as a line coach nor as good as Anthony Lynn as a run game coordinator.     

 

All this just bothers me that yet another Bills regime would go into a season with a cast of young QB's on the roster and besides Dawkins some not very quality linemen. It remains to be seen what kind of play we will get from Dawkins this year. Hoping that line will be okay doesn't cut it in my view.

 

[Punching Bag]

On 5/12/2018 at 2:59 PM, Nihilarian said:

Buffalo just lost above average players at LT, LG, OC and that OG was an all-pro. Expecting a fifth-round draft pick to replace him is delusional. This reminds me of trading away All-pro LT Jason Peters and then attempting to replace him with Demtress Bell, a 7th round pick. 

 

Buffalo did not "lose" a LT; they traded a backup TD who has not played in 16 games since extension and no guarantee he will remain healthy and return to form.   His replacement seems to play as well.  And Jason Peters was willing to sit out until traded but fortunately we do not need to deal with that agent now for he is hell now.