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I live out here is PAC-12 country and will tell you that this kid is a beast.  He was the middle anchor of a very good Stanford defense.  Smart, instinctive, tough, physical, hard worker.  The second coming of Kyle.  

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The even nicer thing about "Horrible Harry" - yes that's his nickname - is he can likely back up Star and Kyle.  Strong enough to play the 1 technique and fight double teams and also fast enough to play the 3 technique "disruptor" role.  Hopefully he can learn some stronger pass rush moves and hand combat techniques from Kyle to become an upfield terror.

 

Certainly has the brains - 40 on the Wonderlic - to learn the D and a couple positions.  

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36 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I really like the guy too.  I think the Kyle Williams comparisons are fair.

Taller and heavier than Kyle.  Style of play isn’t that similar either.  Only comparison really is they are both white which is why you see people make the comparison 

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Just now, JimKellyTryouts said:

We all just have no idea how he fell so far

So my guess is 3-4 Teams didn't see him as a true 0 technique nose and he is too short for 5 technique.  And 4-3 teams also couldn't figure out his position.  McD's scheme values his flexibility to backup at either role and we will get a year to see which he excels at.

 

My bet is he spells Star on passing downs, plays in all short yardage packages and gives Kyle a breather occasionally.

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Agree I love the pick.. He is gonna be a fan favorite for years to come. Not only as a player, but off the field, in the locker room(easily see him be a captian in a few yrs) and in the community. In college he was already involved in 2 non-profit organizations (he was on the board for 1 of them).. Buffalo is gonna fall in love with this guy!!

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I don’t want to set my expectations at him becoming Kyle Williams.  I Think he’ll be a good to very good player and an eventual starter for years to come but he’ll be very lucky if he has the career Kyle did.  

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11 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Taller and heavier than Kyle.  Style of play isn’t that similar either.  Only comparison really is they are both white which is why you see people make the comparison 

I agree. Kyle is very quick off the snap and catches OLmen in compromising positions by getting to the gap before they know what hit them. Kyle is short and is very good at getting under his opponents arms and getting by before they can even lay a hand on him to block.  Harry is not particularly fast, but is one incredibly powerful human being. His wrestling background also gives him an above average understanding of leverage.  He uses his power and leverage very effectively. 100 tackles as a nose!!

 

Both Kyle and Harry spend a lot of time in the backfield disrupting plays so a get the comparisons. But the way that they do it is very different.

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30 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Taller and heavier than Kyle.  Style of play isn’t that similar either.  Only comparison really is they are both white which is why you see people make the comparison 

Umn no

 

Their style of play is VERY similar....both quick disrupter guys and Meatball has always been undervalued against the run

 

Being white has nothing to do with it

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Just like with every draft pick, I will wait and see him put on an NFL uniform before I proclaim him anything.

 

It's the same thing as people bashing Allen before he plays a game. Same goes for the other way. 

 

I have absolutely NO IDEA if Phillips is going to be a good or bad player in the NFL. And neither do you.

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1 hour ago, BillsSbSoon said:

Crazy that he even looks like kyle too. He will take harrison under his wing for sure which is huge

Call it crazy, because that is the definition of coincidence, I don´t that factored in any way, shape or form in McBeane's decision to pick him...

20 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I don’t want to set my expectations at him becoming Kyle Williams.  I Think he’ll be a good to very good player and an eventual starter for years to come but he’ll be very lucky if he has the career Kyle did.  

Crystal Ball?

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6 minutes ago, BuffaLoko said:

Call it crazy, because that is the definition of coincidence, I don´t that factored in any way, shape or form in McBeane's decision to pick him...

Crystal Ball?

No. It’s just that I don’t think he’ll be as good as Kyle Williams. 

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18 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Umn no

 

Their style of play is VERY similar....both quick disrupter guys and Meatball has always been undervalued against the run

 

Being white has nothing to do with it

Come on man. Being white has little bit to do with it...

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You guys will love this detailed article. A little long but made me fall in love with our pick once more. (Bonus if you click on the article: Claims Vita Vea is overrated) 

 

https://www.bigblueview.com/2018/4/16/17243128/2018-nfl-draft-defensive-tackle-reports-harrison-phillips-vita-vea-taven-bryan

 

Others will be drafted ahead of him, but Phillips is our staff favorite.

Overview...Ask any football fan and they are quick to tell you that their favorite interior defenders are “grunts,” especially those that occupy the role of nose guard/tackle. For teams that utilize this position, often that player aligns across the line of scrimmage from the offense’s center before the play begins in the “zero-technique” position. In this position, frequently taking on the center and at least one if not both of the guards, the nose tackle is considered to be the most physically demanding position in football – a perfect place for the 2013 Junior National heavyweight champion and the state of Nebraska’s heavyweight champion to ply his wares.

When Stanford switches to a stacked five-linemen situation, such as a goal-line formation, Phillips is always is the innermost lineman, flanked on either side by a defensive tackle or defensive end. He is used in that role despite that position generally requiring a more traditional defense demand - a massive man who can clog up the middle. Much like the Rams Aaron Donald, Phillips compensates for not growing into a 360-pound behemoth like Baltimore’s Brandon Williams with outstanding raw power and impressive quickness to penetrate and move along the front.

 

Yes, typical National Football League nose tackles are “big wide bodies who can hold the point of attack and force double teams by the guard and center,” but it is easy to see on Cardinal game films, that Phillips is the linchpin to the team’s success vs. the run, as he tirelessly combats double and triple-team coverage in the trenches.

NFL nose tackles are usually the heaviest players on the roster, with weights ranging from 325 to 375 pounds, but has that country-strong lower base that makes it tough for bigger blockers to root him out. Sure, he might get knocked to the ground by multiple blockers, but until that whistle sounds, you will see him literally crawl along the turf, reach out and still make the crucial tackle in a crowd.

Most NFL talent evaluators will tell you that height is critical, as the nose tackle/guard is supposed to get “under” the offensive line, which means ideal 3–4 performers at this position are usually no taller than six-feet, three-inches. Phillips checks in at a shade above that requirement, but years of being on the wrestling mat has seen him develop that Aaron Donald/Curly Culp/John Randle-like low center of gravity. Much like Randle, Phillips has performed at a tremendous rate when asked to attack the quarterback and disrupt the backfield activity.

During his two seasons in the starting lineup, Phillips has been directly [involved in] 135 running plays, as he posted 33 tackles inside the red zone, including ten on goal-line snaps. Blessed with above average speed, his concepts for taking angles and being relentless in pursuit has seen him register twenty touchdown saving tackles vs. the ground game, making a total of thirty-eight stops-for-loss (solos and assists) while taking down twelve ball carriers at the line of scrimmage for no gain.

Phillips 2017 Season Statistical Breakdown vs. the Running GameThe nose tackle was directly involved in 91 running plays, as he recorded 52 lone tackles on carries that netted 28 yards and assisted on 39 other carries for 69 yards, yielding a rushing average of just a miniscule 1.07 yards per attempt…Yielded on just three first downs and allowed just one runner a chance to score on him, as Phillips recorded twelve third-down stops vs. the ground game…Registered twenty stops (solos and assists) for losses and took down ten other runners at the line of scrimmage for no gain…The nose tackle delivered eleven touchdown-saving tackles, coming out of his area to make the play when other Cardinal defenders missed their coverage assignments.

Phillips 2017 Season Statistical Breakdown vs. the Passing GamePhillips was directly involved in 23 pass plays, allowing just one catch (pass completion percentage of .0455) for a 14-yard first down…Also assisted in taking a receiver down on a third-down catch for 12 yards…Made 10 third-down stops, as he produced eight quarterback pressures, including one that caused an interception, in addition to jamming running backs coming out on pass plays that could not be completed…Stopped one receiver for a loss and took down another at the line of scrimmage for no gain…Came out of his area to make two touchdown-saving tackles vs. the aerial game.

Phillips Scouting Report

Body Structure...Phillips has a compact frame with solid muscle tone, thick chest, broad shoulders, thick thighs and calves and a good bubble. He has low body fat and could use more bulk on his frame, especially if he is to remain on the defensive line, but you don’t want him to overdo it, as his quickness is one of his better assets. He has a nice wing-span in proportion for his size (not verified, but one reports lists it at 77 5/8-inches), evident by the way he extends his arms to stave off blockers attempting to get into his chest. He also possesses big hands (9 ¾-inches) to latch on to a ball carriers jersey and drag the runner down.

Athletic Ability...Phillips is a solidly built defender with excellent explosion and quickness to get to the football. He is the type of player who shows outstanding field awareness, evident by his consistency in coming up with big plays in tight areas (see 2017 USC and San Diego State; 2016 Oregon and North Carolina games). He plays with tough aggression and is a disruptive force that needs to be accounted for on every play.

He has sharp change of direction skills and a very quick first step. His flexibility and balance allow him to flow with the play while working down the line. He also displays fluid knee bend, hip flip and balance to stay up on his feet. You can see on film that he is a quick-twitch player with natural movement ability, especially when he maintains balance jumping over trash to make the play.

Phillips is a quick and explosive run container who plays with non-stop effort. He is a short stepper who does a very good job of using his upper body strength and lower frame power to collapse the offensive line and occupy multiple blockers. He gets into the blockers with good urgency and shows very good hip flexibility and lower body quickness to make plays moving down the line (see 2017 Oregon State, Washington State and Notre Dame games).

He plays stout at the point of attack and uses his hands well to keep blockers away from his chest. When he stays low in his pads, he gains leverage and shows strength and explosion coming off the snap. His agility is evident by the way he remains low in his pads while generating ease of movement when changing direction to close on the ball. He flashes good power and upper body explosion to consistently walk the blocker back into the quarterback or clog the rush lanes by neutralizing the lead blocker when working in-line.

His sudden moves and strong hand placement are ideal for playing the edge in a 3-4 alignment, but his power base and anchor make him a nice fit as an under/nose tackle in a traditional 4-3 front wall. He plays with good urgency and has the long reach and hand placement to easily sidestep low blocks. He has the leaping ability and reach to deflect passes at the line of scrimmage and when he keeps his pads down, he can generate a very quick push off the snap to penetrate and shoot the gaps.

Football Sense... There may not be a better guy to coach. Phillips does all that is asked and is not a showboat – he just comes to play. He is a respected leader, despite just one season of starting experience and always plays at a high tempo. He is an outstanding worker on the field who has a true passion for the game. He is the type of player that brings out the best in his teammates, either by setting an example or pushing his mates to play better.

Phillips plays with valid football instincts and is a smart player who will have no problem taking plays from the chalkboard to the playing field. He is able to pick up blocking schemes quickly. He is not the type that will bite on play action and misdirection. He knows how to take proper angles when chasing down ball carriers in the backfield and is the type that will not have problems digesting a complicated playbook. He anticipates the plays well and does a good job flowing to the ball along the line.

Explosion/Pursuit...Phillips shows good initial quickness, as he has the leg drive to explode off the ball and the hand punch to consistently rock the offensive linemen back on their heels. He has the suddenness to easily gain advantage out of the “blocks” and flashes that strong hand movement to shock and jolt the lead blockers. He has become very consistent with his hand usage and staying low in his pads. There are times where he seems to relish taking on double teams more than playing in one-on-one battles, a testament to his “Viking-like” attack approach.

He is a good quick-twitch player who can gain immediate penetration when he maintains that low pad level and keeps his hands active within his frame. You can see on film his quickness getting into gaps to disrupt the running play (see 2017 Oregon State, Washington State, Washington, California and Notre Dame contests). He can surprise a lethargic blocker and slip past double teams with his burst, showing the strength needed to get a good push off his man.

He excels at neutralizing multiple blockers and has that hip shake you want when trying to execute counter moves. He is so quick to get an edge on the blocker that his opponent will generally get put to the ground or be left grasping at air. When he gains advantage, he will generally keep it. He is very light on his feet, doing a nice job of working down the line when playing in the short area.

Strength at the Point of Attack...Phillips is a naturally strong athlete who has the added benefit of knowing how to use that power and base to lean on and slip off blocks. He is quick to use his hands in attempts to shock, throw and jerk the offensive lineman and even vs. double teams, he won’t stay blocked for long. He has the good balance and anchor to stay on his feet and uses his arm length well to defeat low blocks at his legs.

His hand punch is highlighted by the way he forcefully disengages from blocks and as he continues to improve his leverage working in-line, he can be quite effective staying on the tail of a ball carrier to chase down running plays in the backfield (see 2017 USC regular season game, San Diego State, Arizona State, Oregon State, Notre Dame and USC/Pac-12 title games). I am very impressed with his outstanding upper body strength – well beyond what his body frame indicates he should have - as it allows him to consistently use his hands to gain separation or when trying to stuff and shed.

He also shows the nimble feet to adjust to movement when working down the line. He is quick to fill the rush lanes and shows good creativity and spin moves shooting the gaps. He is very combative with his hands and has the strength to shock and control and opponent when he locks on. He has developed into the type of player that demands constant double team activity from his opponent, as he is very hard to move off the line. When he plants his feet and settles in for a battle, he uses his low center of gravity to gain leverage and he keeps his feet free, demonstrating very effective two-gap potential.

Use of Hands...This is where Phillips has shown marked improvement, as he has become confident in his hand punch to shock and jolt. He no longer gets his hands outside his frame, keeping them tight to prevent blockers from getting into his chest, locking on and riding him wide from the play (had those issues earlier in his career). He flashes that explosive punch needed to quickly gain separation and uses them with authority to control the action at the point of attack. When he keeps those hands active, he has good success when trying to stack and extend. He also shows good timing to get his hands up to create vision issues for quarterbacks trying to throw the underneath balls. Phillips’s quick arm-over action and upper body strength lets him consistently beat his blocker off the snap. Even when he short-arms at times, he stays after the blocker, using his body lean to get a push.

Lateral Pursuit/Effort...Phillips plays until the whistle, staying in control while getting over and around most trash. With his low center of gravity, his opponents have had a hard time executing scoop and fold blocks vs. him, as he showed the quickness to loop behind the offensive linemen to drive the lead blocker back through the gaps. He is more mobile working down the line than the generally slow-prodding interior defensive linemen. He has the valid foot speed to give chase and pursue in the backfield, staying low in his pads while keeping his hands active to avoid low blocks. He also demonstrates good hustle agility from the back-side, along with the burst needed to close on the quarterback (see 2017 San Diego State, UCLA, Oregon, Washington State and Notre Dame contests). With his playing speed, he has had good success clearing trash that guards and centers try to create when double-teaming him. There are times where he will get a bit high in his stance (mostly on long pursuits), and when this happens, he tends to narrow his base and fail to keep his feet free.

Tackling Ability...Phillips has more than enough functional strength to clog the inside rush lanes and shows good explosion and striking power, along with the wrap-up technique to be productive at the NFL level. He needs to continue to play at his 2017 level, where he showed great strength in locking up blockers, along with the power to take away the outside leg of the running back to prevent the ball carriers forward progress (allowed just three ball carriers to record first down carries vs. him in 2017). He has very good strength behind his hits and is an efficient wrap-up tackler with the long arms to engulf the perimeter runners. He has the lateral agility to push the outside running game back inside and the field vision to quickly locate the cutback lanes.

Because of his wide frame and brute strength, when he makes a collision tackle, he instantly stops the ball carrier’s momentum. There is no leakage when working inside, but when he does get a little out of control (not often), he will miss tackles when operating in space. Phillips spends most of his time occupying multiple blockers to free up a teammate to make the play, but has enough power to get the ball carrier down on initial contact. He can deliver an explosive punch in closed quarters and there is no leakage working inside. He might get a little out of control and miss in space, at times, but he is a very effective tackler when stationed inside the box. Consistently fitting and finishing at the point of attack, he has above average strength to lock up and enough quickness to combine with his power to make explosive tackles. When he attacks a ball carrier, he punishes them.

Run Defense...Phillips has allowed only three first downs on 89 running plays directed at him in 2017, preventing those runners from gaining positive yardage on 31 of those carries (21 tackles-for-loss, ten stops at the line of scrimmage for no gains this year). He has very good balance to stay on his feet working through trash and uses his natural strength well to plug the inside gaps. His arm strength and hand punch lets him get the separation needed to get back on the play in a hurry. He also uses his reach effectively to stack and his wide anchor to hold ground at the point of attack. With his quickness shooting the gaps and solid base, he’s tough to move out, even when matching up vs. double teams. He is tough to defend in the short area when moving down the line and is very conscious of low blocks and how to avoid them.

With more bulk, he should have no problem at the NFL level in becoming an immovable object at the point of attack, as he is quick to hunker down and fill the rush lanes. Phillips is a very stout vs. the inside run, doing a fine job of clogging the rush lanes and using the lead blocker to generate gap containment. He relishes his role in holding up, clogging and disrupting the action in the backfield. He stacks well at the point of attack and uses that excellent low center of gravity to leverage. He might be shorter and lighter than most nose guards at the NFL level, but I don’t see him having problems playing the two-gap (ideally, he’s a three-tech player) and he does a nice job of keeping his feet free on the move. He plays with leverage thanks to his strength to hold ground firmly and he plays with good effort when giving chase.

Pass Rush... Phillips shows good desire in attempts to collapse the pocket (see 2017 San Diego State, UCLA, Oregon, Arizona State and Notre Dame contests) and gives solid second effort vs. double teams when trying to disengage. He shows good agility squeezing the pocket and what is impressive from viewing 2017 film is that it was rare to see him get narrow in his base coming off the edge, as blockers had little or no success forcing him out of the pocket. This season, he has become a very instinctive pass rusher who is very active with his hands to keep blockers off of him. He utilizes his wide array of moves (rip, club, swim, arm-over, under-arm) to split double teams. Once he gets a bead on the quarterback, the passer is usually a “sitting duck.” His initial push rocks blockers back on their heels and he is quick to push the pocket. He changes direction on movement and has a very effective spin move that he utilizes a lot when the blocker tries to lean into him to gain body position.

He generates great power in his initial surge and while he is more effective on the bull rush, he has the ability to wreak havoc in the backfield when trying to flush out the quarterback (see 2017 San Diego State, Oregon and North Carolina games). He can turn the corner and shows good counter moves to come underneath and make the play. His lower body strength lets him push the pocket and he displays very good urgency to get to the quarter-back. When he extends his arms and uses good forward body lean, he has had very good success pressing the inside shoulder of the offensive tackle, as he shows flexibility and leverage to go with an explosive burst to close on the pocket. He also has the loose hips you want in an under tackle and he has enough quickness to utilize him edge rusher for a few snaps, as he can consistently turn the corner.

 

Phillips has very good initial speed for a defensive tackle when trying to collapse the pocket. He has functional speed to come off the edge, but had much better success disrupting the backfield when shooting the gaps. He flashes the pressure production that will allow an edge rusher to be isolated in his pursuit to the quarterback, as Phillips had very good success splitting double teams in 2017. You can see on film that extra acceleration and surge when attacking the passer, along with the desire to make things happen once he penetrates the line of scrimmage (had just three missed tackles on 89 first level plays).

With his balance and agility, he has no problems with twists and games. He shows great confidence when playing over the center’s head, as he is able to give a good arm-over action to gain advantage over the outside shoulder of the guards in attempts to apply pressure. While he can win with quickness, he is a highly effective hand fighter that can shed blockers. He has the lateral mobility to develop effective double moves and has become a great bull rusher. He shows great knee bend and looks explosive when he rushes off the edge, but he also flashes above average speed to power and can put bigger offensive tackles on roller skates when he shoots the gaps to close on the quarterback.

Instincts/Recognition... Phillips has a good feel to read and locate the ball. He is best when he reacts quickly, as sometimes he looks a little mechanical when he plans his moves. He will not be fooled by fakes and play action. His flow to the ball comes with no hesitation. And he has a nice feel for blocks and where they are coming from (rare to see him surprised or caught out of position). With his quickness and a lack of bulk, he could move to under-tackle at the next level, but with his low center of gravity and power, I would not hesitate to line him up at the nose guard slot.

The thing I like is his ability to quickly recognize blocking schemes. Few down linemen in this draft show his discipline, desire and field smarts. He doesn’t back down when teams commit two blockers and he is always willing to mix it up with much heavier offensive linemen. He gives the same effort rushing the passer as he does when chasing the run, thanks to his good overall motor and he flashes elite effort on certain snaps.

Compares To...John Randle-ex-Minnesota…Like Randle, Phillips is bigger, faster and stronger than he was earlier in his collegiate career. For all of the athleticism displayed by the Cardinal, he offers a team an Aaron Donald type that can be moved around the first level, as he is an ideal under-tackle who can line up wide as a strong-side end in a 3-4 defensive alignment, but teams that utilize the under-tackle position in their 4-3 scheme will see that Phillips is also the perfect solution to solve any issues that they might have at that position. Simply put, this is a player destined to walk the podium to be greeted by the commissioner in 2018.

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22 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I mean...I think this is fair.  Kyle Williams is a wall of fame player for sure.

 

I think that their playing styles are similar.

Thanks.  I don’t think Phillips gets off the snap nearly as fast as Kyle.  Not many DTs ever have.  That’s his best attribute imo.  

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1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Taller and heavier than Kyle.  Style of play isn’t that similar either.  Only comparison really is they are both white which is why you see people make the comparison 

Typical of today's  society to make every issue about race.  So tired of it.  Grow up.

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He is relentless.  What struck me most about him is his ability to move his man backwards.  He is seldom moved backwards himself, unless he is being double teamed.  Some say he would not be on the field on passing downs but I believe he has demonstrated the ability to bring pressure up the middle and would need to be accounted for.  I think he is a great pick and will get significant playing time right out of the gate.    

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Love the pick! I can see why they make comparisons to kyle but they are a bit different 

 

Kyle since college has always made his $$ at the 3 tech. Sure he can play some 0 and 1 tech but he’s at his best at the 3

 

Phillips plays his best ball at the 1 tech and 0 tech. He may be a bit undersized for an NFL nose but his core strength is outstanding 

 

He will plug right into our rotation for years to come!

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12 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Taller and heavier than Kyle.  Style of play isn’t that similar either.  Only comparison really is they are both white which is why you see people make the comparison 

I didn't see much Stanford football but the videos of his play look very similar to Kyle, and it has nothing to do with his skin color.  He is very quick off the snap and penetrates while his OL opponent is just coming out of his stance.  He is very disruptive and a fierce competitor from what I have seen.

 

He should be fun to watch next to Lotulelei or Kyle.

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Man, I love what the Bills have done with their front 7 this offseason. Bringing back Kyle, we still have Jerry, adding Star, Murphy and now Phillips. I think we effectively replaced Dareus with players who are both significantly cheaper and better locker room guys. All that combined with Edmunds running the show at MLB and our already strong secondary, look out. 

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I think the 100 tackles # is indicative of him continuing to play hard to the whistle, which was not the case with Dareus or earlier, Mario Williams.

 

He'll go hard, every play.  If an OL guy takes a play off, he'll get tossed about.

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