JimKellyTryouts Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Did this honestly need its own thread? I guess it's someone else's turn to make a CJ Spiller thread now, too. That's somehow relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichFan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said: What scares me is an O coordinator who has done what??? If we are going to coach this kid up we need someone who has at least done it before...... I agree with this. I don’t have a problem with drafting Allen, as long as they get a top QB coach to develop him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 20 minutes ago, musichunch said: Have faith. He's a smart kid. Played for Wyoming. What he lacks is high-end experience. It's the old "I can" vs "I can't". "Lack of experience" vs "permanent inability". If you were a smart student who blossomed late and went to UB and did well, and then I threw you into a Harvard exam room, and you only started to figure things out during the 2nd exam, would you be mad if I said I had my doubts about you? Or would you rather I said "good, he's already figuring things out in his 2nd exam in the toughest conditions"? He did better than any QB at the Senior Bowl, and he only started to figure things out in the 2nd half. That sounds like great potential to me. Highest Wonderlic score too. Rosen is a schlub if Allen reaches his full potential. I really hope you are right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I will take the mudder of the elite thoroughbred in the end... Even though, it is tempting thoroughbred from time to time and I have my doubts that mudder can get done. I have more Duke of Argyll in me. Rosen is good fit for Sunny AZ. Allen, BFLo. I will take the Higlander over The Fop. The powder blue is so UCLA. Brown & gold so Wyoming. So what should we wager, guineas again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I wanted Rosen. All we can do now is sit back and hope the staff can develop him? Rosen had durability concerns which are valid. If Allen turns into EJ, McB will both be gone. Trust the process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 hours ago, dave mcbride said: I'm no longer upset and have decided to just roll with it. My approach going forward is to treat Allen as an interesting experiment given the very real huge upside. I'm gonna try and make it fun for myself regardless of the outcome. Maybe he'll be great; who really knows. Exactly where I am. Didn't like the pick at all but now he is our guy. I hope he's great. I'm on the Josh Allen train unless he goes off the tracks in a couple years. We need to give him some time. I don't expect him to play well this year but wouldn't expect that from either of the other three with this line and these WR. I expect him to start game one and the Bills to be a running team but let him air it out several times a game. We desperately need a speed guy now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Commonsense said: It reminds me of when Hillary Clinton lost the election TBH. yup. I'm itching to know if part of the reason why a lot of the people wanted rosen so much is because he said f trump. fact is every one of the qbs picked early has an equal chance to make it or bust. So it comes down to opinions formed by other reasons imho. I was all in on TT until I became exhausted. I'm all in on Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: We got it you drink the koolaid and think giving up a first and two second rounders for a project is smaaaaaaaht No, actually I liked 5 QB’s in this draft. I liked Rosen more than Allen but I also am good with Allen. Is that OK with you, Simpleton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 hours ago, blitzboy54 said: Why, he's not wrong. Don't forget TJ Graham over Russel Wilson. I was literally screaming at the TV when we traded up "it has to be Wilson" and it wasn't TRADED UP You guys are comparing a front office who kept the playoff drought to a front office who ended the drought... Think about that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, HuSeYiN_NYC said: You guys are comparing a front office who kept the playoff drought to a front office who ended the drought... Think about that... I'm sure Andy is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 This thread coming from a guy who endlessly pumped Lamar Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Lurker said: I'm sure Andy is.... So the success of a season is based on a Week 17 game huh? Cool story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, HuSeYiN_NYC said: So the success of a season is based on a Week 17 game huh? Cool story... I'm sticking to it as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: when the Bills drafted Whitner over Ngata and Maybin over Orakpo. The fans made the right call in those cases over the Bills' Front Office. Except this time, BOTH were terrible ideas. 10 minutes ago, HuSeYiN_NYC said: You guys are comparing a front office who kept the playoff drought to a front office who ended the drought... Think about that... The Bengals front office ended the drought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 hours ago, Commonsense said: It reminds me of when Hillary Clinton lost the election TBH. LOL kind of does. Very much a deflated feeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, #34fan said: Except this time, BOTH were terrible ideas. The Bengals front office ended the drought. Smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Obviously not a consolation prize, but they better be right with Allen becoming a star QB in the league. I'll say this. This is the most competent management we've had for a long time. I hope their work pays off here. So far so good so I will wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Allen over Rosen reminds me of the time I chose a Chevy Malibu over a Camary. Needless to say I was car shopping again after 18 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Gotta give the kid a chance though. You certainly may be right but he hasn't even played a snap in the NFL yet. I get that he has red flags and I understand the concerns, but I just don't see why its necessary to rip on him when he literally hasn't even been a Bill for 1 full day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 6 hours ago, blitzboy54 said: Why, he's not wrong. Don't forget TJ Graham over Russel Wilson. I was literally screaming at the TV when we traded up "it has to be Wilson" and it wasn't TRADED UP I very famously said R Wilson was the second best QB in the draft (Luck being 1) and should be a top 5 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 6 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: when the Bills drafted Whitner over Ngata and Maybin over Orakpo. The fans made the right call in those cases over the Bills' Front Office. Pretty accurate impression. Are there many examples of the Bills picking against the fans and being right? Recently, it seemed like most fans hated the EJ pick and thought we gave up too much for Watkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 6 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: when the Bills drafted Whitner over Ngata and Maybin over Orakpo. The fans made the right call in those cases over the Bills' Front Office. Lol need to start to call you 26cornerhindsight. Really? This is your take on this? Your posting status and football knowledge just took a hit in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, aceman_16 said: Lol need to start to call you 26cornerhindsight. Really? This is your take on this? Your posting status and football knowledge just took a hit in my opinion. I won't be able to sleep tonight. Sayanara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I won't be able to sleep tonight. Sayanara. I guess maybe you should stick to posting tweets vs personal takes? IMO copy/pasting someone else's words allows others to think you understand football vs allowing folks to read YOUR meaningful contribution to the Bills football world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, aceman_16 said: I guess maybe you should stick to posting tweets vs personal takes? IMO copy/pasting someone else's words allows others to think you understand football vs allowing folks to read YOUR meaningful contribution to the Bills football world. I'm really considering what you think I should do and it's affecting me deeply. Sayanara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: I'm really considering what you think I should do and it's affecting me deeply. Sayanara. Glad to help. Sometimes people need a group intervention to help rise from the ashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Sunshine over cancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Freak Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 8 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Beane is putting his faith in our coaching staff. Hopefully they prove him correct. Rosen was the safe play, Beane swung for the fences. Agree 100%. Ruined my day the we took the wrong Josh, however - Now he's our guy & I'm 100% behind him. Either candidate is a change from what we've done in recent past though. It could've been the safe play or the Home Run. I guess you can't hit a home run if your just trying to get on base tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 hours ago, aceman_16 said: Glad to help. Sometimes people need a group intervention to help rise from the ashes. Happy to see you come around to what many of us already knew about the bot. Welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 8 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: when the Bills drafted Whitner over Ngata and Maybin over Orakpo. The fans made the right call in those cases over the Bills' Front Office. Actually you could look at it a different way We got cute with undersized Whitner and Maybin...... In this situation we got the big solid player that can take the NFL pounding and not get man handled Meanwhile.....if someone gets a clean hit on Rosen......well...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Actually you could look at it a different way We got cute with undersized Whitner and Maybin...... In this situation we got the big solid player that can take the NFL pounding and not get man handled Meanwhile.....if someone gets a clean hit on Rosen......well...... yuk, yuk, yuk... ra·tion·al·i·za·tion ˌraSH(ə)n(ə)ləˈzāSH(ə)n,ˌraSH(ə)n(ə)līˈzāSH(ə)n/ noun 1. the action of attempting to explain or justify behavior or an attitude with logical reasons, even if these are not appropriate. "most people are prone to self-deceptive rationalization" 2. the action of reorganizing a process or system so as to make it more logical and consistent. "the rationalization of accounting standards" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Lurker said: yuk, yuk, yuk... ra·tion·al·i·za·tion ˌraSH(ə)n(ə)ləˈzāSH(ə)n,ˌraSH(ə)n(ə)līˈzāSH(ə)n/ noun 1. the action of attempting to explain or justify behavior or an attitude with logical reasons, even if these are not appropriate. "most people are prone to self-deceptive rationalization" 2. the action of reorganizing a process or system so as to make it more logical and consistent. "the rationalization of accounting standards" Maybe..... Its a wait and see. I was a Rosen guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Happy to see you come around to what many of us already knew about the bot. Welcome! Lol thanks (I guess) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 32 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Actually you could look at it a different way We got cute with undersized Whitner and Maybin...... In this situation we got the big solid player that can take the NFL pounding and not get man handled Meanwhile.....if someone gets a clean hit on Rosen......well...... Funny how perspectives change just because a player becomes a Bills' draft choice. The same player many here would be laughing at with ridicule of the team who selected him if it were the Browns or Jets. It's hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 9 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: when the Bills drafted Whitner over Ngata and Maybin over Orakpo. The fans made the right call in those cases over the Bills' Front Office. that's the thing about hidesight, it's always 20-20. are you saying you are in possession of a crystal ball that can tell the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Funny how perspectives change just because a player becomes a Bills' draft choice. The same player many here would be laughing at with ridicule of the team who selected him if it were the Browns or Jets. It's hilarious. Im sure you missed it but I already said I was a Rosen guy Should I pout because we didnt draft him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Funny how perspectives change just because a player becomes a Bills' draft choice. The same player many here would be laughing at with ridicule of the team who selected him if it were the Browns or Jets. It's hilarious. You know, we wouldn't be having this conversation if we hadn't let the Jets beat us out for the #3 pick. It really does all go back to that, and I think Beane got owned. If he had the stones to pull that trade off, we'd all be celebrating over Darnold becoming a Bill. Oh well. As I said above, I'm going to roll with it and hope for the best. Edited April 27, 2018 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Foxx said: that's the thing about hidesight, it's always 20-20. are you saying you are in possession of a crystal ball that can tell the future? My post refers to initial feelings when those players were drafted that were borne out over time. What a question. Edited April 27, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threedollabills Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Ok, folks. Josh Rosen said last night that 9 teams made a mistake. Is that what you all have wanted? You would've wanted him to say that 6 teams made a mistake? Homeboy Rosen is a little BEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Allen gets totally dummied by a saved screen shot from when he was 14 and he takes it on the chin. Rosen is not Buffalo, Allen is. Edited April 28, 2018 by Threedollabills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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