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1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Get to #4 with capital this year and then get to #2.  Give the Giants next years #1 and they still get Barkley at #4.

 

That should work for all 3 teams, as has been discussed.  Giants staying pat at #2 and not picking a QB is a fireable offense.

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1 minute ago, Mark92 said:

Would we trade everything for Mayfield if he the one left standing at 4?  

 

I can't see Mayfield getting past the Jets. 

 

The QB most likely to slide is Josh Allen (because he's terrible). 

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1 minute ago, kdiggz said:

i think Jets want Rosen and Bills were trying to get ahead of them for him.  I think they like Mayfield's story but based on everything they have said about a franchise QB i don't think they would target someone his size

 

I don't think size matters to them.

 

As McDermott recently said, they covet accuracy. Hopefully that means we like Mayfield or Rosen because they're the two guys I want. 

 

If Mayfield goes #1, our draft is completely pooched. Will go #1 Mayfield, #2 Darnold, #3 Rosen, #4 Barkley, and we better not get trigger happy and trade up for crappy Josh Allen just to get somebody. 

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Just now, Chuck Wagon said:

I think the Baker instragram last night tipped the pick. If Schefter is reporting it, that’s where I believe. 

 

Darnold goes #2. Is he a Giant or is he a Bill?

 

He'll be a Giant.

 

The whole reason they haven't traded down yet is because they're waiting to see if he'll be available #2 overall. 

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Just now, jrober38 said:

 

I don't think size matters to them.

 

As McDermott recently said, they covet accuracy. Hopefully that means we like Mayfield or Rosen because they're the two guys I want. 

 

If Mayfield goes #1, our draft is completely pooched. Will go #1 Mayfield, #2 Darnold, #3 Rosen, #4 Barkley, and we better not get trigger happy and trade up for crappy Josh Allen just to get somebody. 

 

That's what's clinging me to hope they won't take Allen.  It's his main issue and something Beane says a QB must have.

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8 minutes ago, Mark92 said:

Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen 1-2-3

This is exactly how I have them ranked, after that I would draft Luke Falk before Allen or Jackson. Falk's is obsessed with football and the film room, it wouldn't surprise me if Falk ends up being the best QB from this draft. The arm strength of Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield and Falk are close to the same. Falk has amazing accuracy, anticipation and ball placement.

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5 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

He'll be a Giant.

 

The whole reason they haven't traded down yet is because they're waiting to see if he'll be available #2 overall. 

 

.......... or the only guy the Bills are willing to go to #2 for is Darnold.

 

 

 

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Some food for though for those who think NYG are taking a QB.

 

An offense with Beckham,Barkley,Engram ,Shepherd...add in Solder at LT. Then you throw in draft picks added in a trade for additional OL help. Pretty damn good with Eli pulling the trigger.

 

Flip side a rookie QB, no Barkley still need to draft a back, no additional picks, Eli has a big contract

 

Gettleman has drafted a RB very high before

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1 minute ago, horned dogs said:

Some food for though for those who think NYG are taking a QB.

 

An offense with Beckham,Barkley,Engram ,Shepherd...add in Solder at LT. Then you throw in draft picks added in a trade for additional OL help. Pretty damn good with Eli pulling the trigger.

 

Flip side a rookie QB, no Barkley still need to draft a back, no additional picks, Eli has a big contract

 

Gettleman has drafted a RB very high before

 

I think that they would rather have a stud running back for Eli to lean on, and they are spitting Darnold rumors to drive up a trade price. What was their last decent back? Rashad Jennings?

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First ... as  I've always said: Baker Mayfield, #1 overall ... for literally a month or more.

 

Second ... there is and has always been too much smoke around this choice. Baker is physically similar to the incumbent and plays, despite what you think, a remarkably similar game. The GM has said that this was the player he personally scouted five times before he was even named GM. Their team is most aligned with statistical analysis and Baker Mayfield isn't just the best QB statistically this year, he's among the best over the last 20 years. Finally, he has played protective ball his entire life and this is a team that just took on the most protective NFL QB.  

There's this: he's the second best QB in this draft and the Browns long ago took Josh Rosen off their board. 

Finally, the Buffalo Bills suddenly decided to go to the West Coast in mid-April to see Sam Darnold. The only thing that changes the mock board significantly is if Baker Mayfield goes #1. It changes the Jets from Mayfield to Rosen and leaves Darnold open to being taken at 4 or below - a price/value ratio that Beane can swallow. (People have said here that the Bills were rumored to have loved Darnold all along. Maybe - but they never were going to be in the market to get to #1 and probably, #2.)
 

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10 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:

I think the Baker instragram last night tipped the pick. If Schefter is reporting it, that’s where I believe. 

 

Darnold goes #2. Is he a Giant or is he a Bill?

 

This one?

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, PIZ said:

 

.......... or the only guy the Bills are willing to go to #2 for is Darnold.

 

 

 

 

Maybe. 

 

I think there was too much talk about a month ago about how the Giants love him. I think he's the guy the Giants want, and if he's gone they pick Barkley instead or trade down if we give them 3 first round picks. 

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2 minutes ago, horned dogs said:

Some food for though for those who think NYG are taking a QB.

 

An offense with Beckham,Barkley,Engram ,Shepherd...add in Solder at LT. Then you throw in draft picks added in a trade for additional OL help. Pretty damn good with Eli pulling the trigger.

 

Flip side a rookie QB, no Barkley still need to draft a back, no additional picks, Eli has a big contract

 

Gettleman has drafted a RB very high before

Flip the decision - should Gettelman trade 3 first rounders and another high pick to draft Barkley?  Would anyone?

 

It's a deal like that which got Ditka fired.

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Just now, jrober38 said:

 

Maybe. 

 

I think there was too much talk about a month ago about how the Giants love him. I think he's the guy the Giants want, and if he's gone they pick Barkley instead or trade down if we give them 3 first round picks. 

 

If they go QB, it's going to cause LOTS of problems for them.  If you draft a guy at #2, then you better plan on playing him his rookie year, or year 2 at the latest.  I haven't heard about Eli planning on retiring.  I hope they trade the pick for Buffalo, and then either go with QB Davis or draft someone like Rudolph at the top of round 2.

 

 

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1 minute ago, PIZ said:

 

If they go QB, it's going to cause LOTS of problems for them.  If you draft a guy at #2, then you better plan on playing him his rookie year, or year 2 at the latest.  I haven't heard about Eli planning on retiring.  I hope they trade the pick for Buffalo, and then either go with QB Davis or draft someone like Rudolph at the top of round 2.

 

 

 

It's not going to cause any problems for them. 

 

Eli Manning is 37 years old and has been steadily declining for 3 years. They need a QB of the future and it's a perfect situation for a QB to step into with no expectations to start immediately. 

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19 minutes ago, GG said:

 

Then if they don't trade out, Gettelman deserves to be fired on the spot.

 

 

Agreed.  Everybody assumes the Giants are passing on a QB but I don't understand that logic.  Manning is nearing the end & the Gmen may not be in this spot again for the forseeable future.  We are not getting Mayfield/Rosen/Darnold is my guess.  Unless Beane loves Allen(which is entirely possible) stay put at 12 & take a shot at Jackson. 

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16 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

This is exactly how I have them ranked, after that I would draft Luke Falk before Allen or Jackson. Falk's is obsessed with football and the film room, it wouldn't surprise me if Falk ends up being the best QB from this draft. The arm strength of Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield and Falk are close to the same. Falk has amazing accuracy, anticipation and ball placement.

I'm generally surprised that Falk hasn't been mentioned more. I think he might be a surprise late 1st rd pick

 

If you can't find a fair trade up going the way of the redskins and drafting Jackson in 1st and Falk in the 2nd would be dynamite

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3 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

Right idea, wrong Josh (Has Giants taking Barkley and Jets taking Darnold, but has us taking Allen, though he admits that he doesn't know which Josh we would take)

 

Makes sense. 

 

Baker Mayfield upgrades their offense enormously. 

 

Mayfield, with Josh Gordon, Jarvis Landry and David Njoku could be an amazing offense. 


They also might have a shot at Barkley at 4, and if they don't, they can trade down and try to pick up picks to grab a franchise LT. 

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If it happens and the Giants take Darnold, then I don't know if I would even be angry.  You can't make a team trade with you and the only thing we could have done differently is beat out the Jets trade. 

 

You can't control what you can't control.  Use the 6 picks and make a really solid team so that AJ is just a game manager.

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Just now, Virgil said:

If it happens and the Giants take Darnold, then I don't know if I would even be angry.  You can't make a team trade with you and the only thing we could have done differently is beat out the Jets trade. 

 

You can't control what you can't control.  Use the 6 picks and make a really solid team so that AJ is just a game manager.

 

Enough with mediocre QBs.

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3 minutes ago, kdiggz said:

i'm trying to remain positive.  it's likely that it could go:

1. Mayfield

2. Barkley

3. Darnold

4. Bills trade - Rosen

 

hopefully this doesn't screw everything up for us 

No way the Bills take Allen instead at 4. I'm surprised DJ is wavering, saw him say it was Rosen last night before the Allen tweet thing.

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3 minutes ago, kdiggz said:

i'm trying to remain positive.  it's likely that it could go:

1. Mayfield

2. Barkley

3. Darnold

4. Bills trade - Rosen

 

hopefully this doesn't screw everything up for us 

 

I am fully convinced if Mayfield goes 1st, that the Jets take Rosen #3.  He is closer to the mold of the QBs their GM and OC have taken in the past.

 

Getting prepared for Darnold to be the guy the Bills take.

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