Deep2Moulds46 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Nate Geary had a couple interesting tidbits yesterday. Take it for what it's worth. 1) Bills have already offered the Giants 3 first round picks for 2, and it wasn't enough. Perhaps that was their breaking point and that's why the Rapsheet story came out about them not looking at 2 anymore 2)He's heard the Bills like Rosen. Didn't say if they have him ranked as their top qb, but at the very least it means they aren't one of the teams that dropped him for character/durability. Either way, 4 more days. We will make it! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Get to 4 or 5 and we'll get either Mayfield or Rosen. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Deep2Moulds46 said: Nate Geary had a couple interesting tidbits yesterday. Take it for what it's worth. 1) Bills have already offered the Giants 3 first round picks for 2, and it wasn't enough. Perhaps that was their breaking point and that's why the Rapsheet story came out about them not looking at 2 anymore 2)He's heard the Bills like Rosen. Didn't say if they have him ranked as their top qb, but at the very least it means they aren't one of the teams that dropped him for character/durability. Either way, 4 more days. We will make it! Fine, enjoy your stupid running back, Gettleman. Too bad you don't have much of an o line in front of him. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFL Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Deep2Moulds46 said: Nate Geary had a couple interesting tidbits yesterday. Take it for what it's worth. 1) Bills have already offered the Giants 3 first round picks for 2, and it wasn't enough. Perhaps that was their breaking point and that's why the Rapsheet story came out about them not looking at 2 anymore 2)He's heard the Bills like Rosen. Didn't say if they have him ranked as their top qb, but at the very least it means they aren't one of the teams that dropped him for character/durability. Either way, 4 more days. We will make it! If true, kinda what Beane was talking about.....a willing trade partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I don’t believe Geary or anyone other than Sal there have any real sources or info 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, Magox said: Get to 4 or 5 and we'll get either Mayfield or Rosen. i am 100% on board with this. Schoop was talking the other day about the massive differnce in picks it takes to get to #2 vs 4 or 5..and I still cant believe Gettleman will take a RB instead of 3 #1 picks...I mean that cant happen in 2018 can it? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 If the giants turn down. 3 first round picks including 2 this year to take anything other than a qb then they are idiots. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Magox said: Get to 4 or 5 and we'll get either Mayfield or Rosen. Theres so much chatter going on with the qbs. I’d really like to know who the browns and Jets are actually targeting. I feel like the Jets are going for Mayfield. Id hate to face him twice a year. He has that Brady fire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I’ve been saying it for months. The New York Giants aren’t trading out of #2 because they are taking a QB. It’s going to be a Bears Trubisky selection reaction on Thursday night when it happens. Gettlemen and Pat Shurmur aren’t that stupid. This is Shurmur’s second and most likely final shot at being a HC. He’s not going to go down with a 37 year old washed up Eli Manning. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Fine, enjoy your stupid running back, Gettleman. Too bad you don't have much of an o line in front of him. What if he takes a QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Just now, Manther said: What if he takes a QB? then I'll be angry but I don't think it will happen after their comments on Eli having a lot left in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Fine, enjoy your stupid running back, Gettleman. Too bad you don't have much of an o line in front of him. I’d completely understand the Giants turning a trade down if they were looking for Eli’s replacement. I can’t understand turning down three first rounds picks for any other position. The Giants are a bad team who lack depth. Three first rounders would go a long ways toward helping them turn that franchise around. If Eli has a couple years left those extra picks would build a roster around him. If they believe Eli is very close to retirement, keeping their first rounder to draft a QB is logical. Declining a solid trade offer to draft a running back is the one option that make no sense imo. Edited April 22, 2018 by DriveFor1Outta5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 LOL Giants are pretty clearly not taking a QB. Let’s not be paranoid. They’re doing us a favor by not accepting. We’ll get to 5 by giving up 12, 22 and 53 and we’ll get Rosen for much cheaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: i am 100% on board with this. Schoop was talking the other day about the massive differnce in picks it takes to get to #2 vs 4 or 5..and I still cant believe Gettleman will take a RB instead of 3 #1 picks...I mean that cant happen in 2018 can it? It can if you’re from the 1960’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jasovon said: If the giants turn down. 3 first round picks including 2 this year to take anything other than a qb then they are idiots. Unless they're thinking QB too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: LOL Giants are pretty clearly not taking a QB. Let’s not be paranoid. They’re doing us a favor by not accepting. We’ll get to 5 by giving up 12, 22 and 53 and we’ll get Rosen for much cheaper I have s hunch Darnold and Rosen will be gone before we pick Edited April 22, 2018 by JaCrispy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Epstein's Mother said: Unless they're thinking QB too. If they're taking a qb then that's fine. But if they take a running back that's a huge mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: i am 100% on board with this. Schoop was talking the other day about the massive differnce in picks it takes to get to #2 vs 4 or 5..and I still cant believe Gettleman will take a RB instead of 3 #1 picks...I mean that cant happen in 2018 can it? It would seem to be a pretty good mistake by the giants. Youd be giving the guy top 5 money at his position fully guaranteed. At what point do you just get a top vet in free agency or via trade of any lower pick. To pass on a package of 3 firsts would be terrible even if barkley is excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Nobody at WGR has more of a clue than anyone commenting in here. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, McBean said: I’ve been saying it for months. The New York Giants aren’t trading out of #2 because they are taking a QB. It’s going to be a Bears Trubisky selection reaction on Thursday night when it happens. Gettlemen and Pat Shurmur aren’t that stupid. This is Shurmur’s second and most likely final shot at being a HC. He’s not going to go down with a 37 year old washed up Eli Manning. Probably taking Darnold in this scenario. Browns with Allen at 1, with the Jets taking Mayfield, the Browns could get Barkley at 4. I doubt hey trade out if Barkley and Chubb are there. Then we need to hope the Broncos pass on Rosen. I'm guessing they take Chubb or Nelson if they are there. 1-Allen 2-Darnold 3-Mayfield 4-Barkley 5-Nelson or Chubb 6-Chubb if he is there 7- This is probably the trade up spot. 5-7. I don't think the Browns trade out if Barkley is there. I don't think the Broncos trade out if Chubb and Nelson are there. I don't think the Colts trade out if Chubb is there, I think they do it if he is gone. I think they want Roquan Smith or Chubb. At at the end of the day I think we get ahold of Rosen or Darnold somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: LOL Giants are pretty clearly not taking a QB. Let’s not be paranoid. They’re doing us a favor by not accepting. We’ll get to 5 by giving up 12, 22 and 53 and we’ll get Rosen for much cheaper LOL both the Giants and Broncos are highly likely to go QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 the longer this goes on the more expensive the trade will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Nate Geary has about as much inside information as the kid from cheektowaga on Twitter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 (edited) If we can’t get to #2, we HAVE to get #4...or at least make sure no one else gets it. Edited April 22, 2018 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Probably taking Darnold in this scenario. Browns with Allen at 1, with the Jets taking Mayfield, the Browns could get Barkley at 4. I doubt hey trade out if Barkley and Chubb are there. Then we need to hope the Broncos pass on Rosen. I'm guessing they take Chubb or Nelson if they are there. 1-Allen 2-Darnold 3-Mayfield 4-Barkley 5-Nelson or Chubb 6-Chubb if he is there 7- This is probably the trade up spot. 5-7. I don't think the Browns trade out if Barkley is there. I don't think the Broncos trade out if Chubb and Nelson are there. I don't think the Colts trade out if Chubb is there, I think they do it if he is gone. I think they want Roquan Smith or Chubb. At at the end of the day I think we get ahold of Rosen or Darnold somehow. In that scenario, you don't screw around. You give what Denver what they need to trade down and secure your QB. It's still far cheaper at that point than getting up to #2. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Just to clear this up a little it was not Nate coming up with these rumors...It was one of the guests...Not sure which one but I was listening...It's the same guy that has been hearing the Bills love Rosen forever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 These are from Eric Galko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan boy '92 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 48 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Fine, enjoy your stupid running back, Gettleman. Too bad you don't have much of an o line in front of him. If he stays, doesn't it have to be for Darnold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarylandFan1980 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 It's hard to know anything. If the offer was 12, 22, and a 1st next year... yeah, I don't think the giants take that. All along, I think a realistic offer is 1, 1, 2, next year 1, and maybe more. Whether the giants do it or not is another thing. But just 3 1sts alone is probably too little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 53 minutes ago, Deep2Moulds46 said: Bills have already offered the Giants 3 first round picks for 2, and it wasn't enough. This is the rumor that Eric Galko had heard. And it makes sense. Blue chip players are found in the top 5 and we can't offer anything higher than 12. If we trade 3 1sts and 2 2nds maybe that gets it done but you have to wonder if any QB in this draft is worth that much. Going for Rosen at 5 makes a lot more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 54 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Fine, enjoy your stupid running back, Gettleman. Too bad you don't have much of an o line in front of him. If Gettleman actually turned down 3 first round picks he is the worst GM in the NFL. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 54 minutes ago, RFL said: If true, kinda what Beane was talking about.....a willing trade partner. ..trade partner or highway robbery victim?....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 WGR is trash. Ian actually said the Bills were NEVER even looking at 2 the whole time. It's has become pretty clear Barkley is going to NYG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 48 minutes ago, McBean said: I’ve been saying it for months. The New York Giants aren’t trading out of #2 because they are taking a QB. It’s going to be a Bears Trubisky selection reaction on Thursday night when it happens. Gettlemen and Pat Shurmur aren’t that stupid. This is Shurmur’s second and most likely final shot at being a HC. He’s not going to go down with a 37 year old washed up Eli Manning. I think they are that stupid. They were making some pro RB comments at their press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: LOL both the Giants and Broncos are highly likely to go QB. If by “highly likely” you mean ”highly unlikely”... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, billspro said: If Gettleman actually turned down 3 first round picks he is the worst GM in the NFL. Unless he wants a qb. That's the only reason to turn that down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 30 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Probably taking Darnold in this scenario. Browns with Allen at 1, with the Jets taking Mayfield, the Browns could get Barkley at 4. I doubt hey trade out if Barkley and Chubb are there. Then we need to hope the Broncos pass on Rosen. I'm guessing they take Chubb or Nelson if they are there. 1-Allen 2-Darnold 3-Mayfield 4-Barkley 5-Nelson or Chubb 6-Chubb if he is there 7- This is probably the trade up spot. 5-7. I don't think the Browns trade out if Barkley is there. I don't think the Broncos trade out if Chubb and Nelson are there. I don't think the Colts trade out if Chubb is there, I think they do it if he is gone. I think they want Roquan Smith or Chubb. At at the end of the day I think we get ahold of Rosen or Darnold somehow. I’m also going on record for another bold prediction. The Browns pass on Barkley at 4 which is going to cause teams to scramble and try to get Saquon at 5 with Denver. Browns added Carlos Hyde this off season and already have a good back in Duke Johnson. It’s going to be wild. I can’t freakin wait man. 4 minutes ago, billspro said: I think they are that stupid. They were making some pro RB comments at their press conference. Smoke smoke smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, MarylandFan1980 said: It's hard to know anything. If the offer was 12, 22, and a 1st next year... yeah, I don't think the giants take that. All along, I think a realistic offer is 1, 1, 2, next year 1, and maybe more. Whether the giants do it or not is another thing. But just 3 1sts alone is probably too little. I think you are undervaluing firsts a bit. The Chiefs essentially gave up two firsts to move up 17 spots last year. Three first should have the value of first overall. Maybe you have to throw in a few 4th or 5th rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I think Bean won’t over pay for anything. I would be pissed if it was more than 3 first round picks for #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Just now, McBean said: I’m also going on record for another bold prediction. The Browns pass on Barkley at 4 which is going to cause teams to scramble and try to get Saquon at 5 with Denver. Browns added Carlos Hyde this off season and already have a good back in Duke Johnson. It’s going to be wild. I can’t freakin wait man. Smoke smoke smoke. I don’t see Gettleman as a smokescreen type of guy. He is old school, what you see is what you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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