Ittakestime Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 McDermott's defense is very much reliant on good LBs. Is anyone else extremely worried right now that our LB situation is currently: Alexander, Lorenzo Lacey, Deon Milano, Matt Stanford, Julian Vallejo, Tanner At the end of this year, Alexander was talking about bulking up and playing more DE. I have very little faith in Vallejo (Wasn't a fan of him in college and was hurt a lot in rookie year. Feel like he is too small). With all the talk about giving up all these picks to move up, we need to get a move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Gotta be our 2nd pick after QB. Just has to be. Was our weakest unit IMO last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 No, free agency just started, draft still ahead, cuts from other teams. Literally months left to add a couple 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 It is one of the few areas this draft is deep. I would have liked one solid vet pick up though. LoRax was the weakest starting player on our D. He is a liability in coverage. So really I have Milano pencilled in as a starter and then two question marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mark80 said: Gotta be our 2nd pick after QB. Just has to be. Was our weakest unit IMO last year. Yes this. Franchise QB and impact LB are not readily available in FA. Trade into top 5 for a Qb, I could see Buffalo getting a sideline to sideline mike in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 We got Trent Murphy right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Of course, but the good news is, this is one of the best 43 linebacker drafts. Buffalo could get Vander Esch at 22, come back in the 3rd and get another will backer that could start by mid season. or personal favorite idea, trade a 4th Hendricks and still draft Vander Esch at 22 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 minute ago, offyourocker said: We got Trent Murphy right? He'll play DE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: McDermott's defense is very much reliant on good LBs. Is anyone else extremely worried right now that our LB situation is currently: Alexander, Lorenzo Lacey, Deon Milano, Matt Stanford, Julian Vallejo, Tanner At the end of this year, Alexander was talking about bulking up and playing more DE. I have very little faith in Vallejo (Wasn't a fan of him in college and was hurt a lot in rookie year. Feel like he is too small). With all the talk about giving up all these picks to move up, we need to get a move on. Don't mean this in a mean way, but I'd suggest you take the advice of your screenname . While the initial frenzy may be done, there's still almost all of the free agency period left to go and many, many LB left, and as time goes by, the prices will go down. Go to any free agency tracker and look at the names. Somehow, I doubt Tanner Vallejo will be starting middle linebacker in Game 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I’m extremely worried about it due too ya only having 1 sold LB, but I am confidant that they have a plan and will follow through with it. I’m eager to see who’s gonna be smacking people up in a 50 something uniform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, thurst44 said: Don't mean this in a mean way, but I'd suggest you take the advice of your screenname . While the initial frenzy may be done, there's still almost all of the free agency period left to go and many, many LB left, and as time goes by, the prices will go down. Go to any free agency tracker and look at the names. Somehow, I doubt Tanner Vallejo will be starting middle linebacker in Game 1. The top guys go fast, and unfortunately, we aren't just looking for depth guys. You could honestly say we are looking for three starting guys (Milano you can pencil in, but he was a rookie 5th round pick last year). Guys like Williamson, Bradham, Hitchens, Coyle, and Davis are gone. There are probably 4 starters left out there (Whitehead, Bowman, Zach Brown and Preston Brown). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I can see them bringing Preston Brown back at a reasonable salary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I believe at the end of the season both alexander and coaching staff said he was moving to edge as a rusher , will also play on special teams. No more lb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 The thread title just drew me in. The possibilities we're endless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, TPS said: I can see them bringing Preston Brown back at a reasonable salary. I bet they would like to bring him back at a reasonable salary and move him to strong side. ...? But. Bills do NEED to address the LBs overall. I cant watch Humber miss assignments again. Did Eagles get a deal with Kendricks? Draft the future and draft again for LB depth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, offyourocker said: We got Trent Murphy right? I think he'll play DE in McDermott's defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, TigerJ said: I think he'll play DE in McDermott's defense. what i read as well. but Lorenzo is also supposed to do that. and Lawson ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: It is one of the few areas this draft is deep. I would have liked one solid vet pick up though. LoRax was the weakest starting player on our D. He is a liability in coverage. So really I have Milano pencilled in as a starter and then two question marks. He was, however, our very BEST player on defense in the playoff game. The guy flashed repeatedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, TPS said: I can see them bringing Preston Brown back at a reasonable salary. IMO, this would be a last resort and I don't think he lasts long enough to be a last resort. I just don't think he's the type of athlete they want at LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Mat68 said: Yes this. Franchise QB and impact LB are not readily available in FA. Trade into top 5 for a Qb, I could see Buffalo getting a sideline to sideline mike in the second. i would love to move for Roquon in the first as well. if we came away with our qb and him only in the draft. im good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, White Linen said: IMO, this would be a last resort and I don't think he lasts long enough to be a last resort. I just don't think he's the type of athlete they want at LB. I agree, but they don't have anyone other than Milano at the moment, which is why I said a reasonable salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Ittakestime said: The top guys go fast, and unfortunately, we aren't just looking for depth guys. You could honestly say we are looking for three starting guys (Milano you can pencil in, but he was a rookie 5th round pick last year). Guys like Williamson, Bradham, Hitchens, Coyle, and Davis are gone. There are probably 4 starters left out there (Whitehead, Bowman, Zach Brown and Preston Brown). And Milano played really well last year. So what if he's a 5th round pick. Who cares... We have draft capital that we can spend on linebackers. Not even worried in the slightest. I'd rather not overpay for any of those guys. Don't need big name free agents to fill every need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: He was, however, our very BEST player on defense in the playoff game. The guy flashed repeatedly. Yea Jax was his best game of the year. But that is no coincidence.... they just kept trying to run and so LoRax was moving forwards all day. He is fine going downhill..... it is when he is going backwards or sideways that you have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yea Jax was his best game of the year. But that is no coincidence.... they just kept trying to run and so LoRax was moving forwards all day. He is fine going downhill..... it is when he is going backwards or sideways that you have a problem. Yeah, he has issues defending passing routes. Ideally he'd be moving forward on those downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: And Milano played really well last year. So what if he's a 5th round pick. Who cares... We have draft capital that we can spend on linebackers. Not even worried in the slightest. I'd rather not overpay for any of those guys. Don't need big name free agents to fill every need. The 5th round pick is more of consistency. There was a reason he went that late. We seen very little of Milano. Relying on him for a full 16 games could expose him a little. The problem with the draft capital argument in that they may plan to trade up and get rid of most of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: The 5th round pick is more of consistency. There was a reason he went that late. We seen very little of Milano. Relying on him for a full 16 games could expose him a little. The problem with the draft capital argument in that they may plan to trade up and get rid of most of it. They will still have plenty of picks even if they trade up to 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 Whitehead signing with Oakland. Really wondering what the heck this team plans on doing. Praying for Bowman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: Whitehead signing with Oakland. Really wondering what the heck this team plans on doing. Praying for Bowman. I don't pray for anything related to a sports team. That said, relax. It is day 2. Beane is checking out the second tier now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I don't pray for anything related to a sports team. That said, relax. It is day 2. Beane is checking out the second tier now. Second tier? For a D that revolves around LBs, you want career backups there? Sounds like a great plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Ittakestime said: Second tier? For a D that revolves around LBs, you want career backups there? Sounds like a great plan. Brown has not signed anywhere yet. The draft is coming. Navarro and others are out there. You don't understand the process. You don't spend gazillions the first day or two just to spend. Who do you think they missed out on that would have been such a great addition? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: Brown has not signed anywhere yet. The draft is coming. Navarro and others are out there. You don't understand the process. You don't spend gazillions the first day or two just to spend. Who do you think they missed out on that would have been such a great addition? Whitehead, Williamson, Davis, Bradham, Hitchens, Brown, Coyle all woud have helped this team. What process? Stop with this first two day nonsense. FA has been going on since combine. In terms of playing time last year, the guys with over 500 snaps left are Preston, Dansby (36 years old), Bostic (Injury history), Derrick Johnson (35 years old), Lawrence Timmons (attitude problems), Bowman. Not much left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Marquis Flowers is an interesting guy from the Patriots if you want a young guy with some upside. Browns just released Jeremy Cash who could be an intersting buy as a depth guy. Both are converted safeties. I like Flowers a lot and i bet he is a guy we are in on right now. If you want older guys Lawrence Timmons and Brian Cushing could be good depth adds who could start a year if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I heard they're high on McCray but that's a long time ago. We'll see what's available at 22 unless that gets packaged up and sent to NY or IND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankoElTanko Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 36 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Brown has not signed anywhere yet. The draft is coming. Navarro and others are out there. You don't understand the process. You don't spend gazillions the first day or two just to spend. Who do you think they missed out on that would have been such a great addition? ^ Agreed. While I am a P. Brown homer (I understand he is slow and somewhat of a coverage liability) however, we have/had a lot of holes. Playoffs were great but our LB core depth was shallow and play left much to be desired. In fact, aside from M. Milano getting ONE interception and L. Alexander/R. Humber combined generating FOUR (3 from LorAx) total sacks, we literally generated 0 INT and 0 sacks between our LB. That is amazing to me. Knowing that we have so many holes to fill, including a highly drafted QB, it would be in our best interest to pay P. Brown on a 2yr. deal. He knows the D and would provide equally as much in leadership. More than anything, HE ALMOST NEVER MISSES PT. That is something we need desperately after R. Humber, T. Vallejo, and every other depth injury we had at LB. I really really want to add M. Kendricks to rotate at SAM and MIKE w/P. Brown and then draft the WILL that we need. Z. Brown would have been nice again too but P. Brown after the 'first wave' of FA makes too much sense NOT to resign with our terrible depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Hey, calm your asses down....... It just so happens this is a very deep year for 4.3 linebackers in the upcoming draft. You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 No matter how much I try I just can't get worried about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 23 minutes ago, ILoveEndingTheSeasonInNov said: Hey, calm your asses down....... It just so happens this is a very deep year for 4.3 linebackers in the upcoming draft. You're welcome. Can't have both top 3 QB and a top LB from draft. It will take most of our top 6 picks just to get the QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 Beane is done with FA. What a disaster our LB corps is,. Sure glad he paid 50 million to an overrated DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spielman Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 On 3/14/2018 at 7:02 PM, Ittakestime said: McDermott's defense is very much reliant on good LBs. Is anyone else extremely worried right now that our LB situation is currently: Alexander, Lorenzo Lacey, Deon Milano, Matt Stanford, Julian Vallejo, Tanner At the end of this year, Alexander was talking about bulking up and playing more DE. I have very little faith in Vallejo (Wasn't a fan of him in college and was hurt a lot in rookie year. Feel like he is too small). With all the talk about giving up all these picks to move up, we need to get a move on. That's not even good college LB corps....yikes. We need to draft 2 LB's...there's plenty in this draft....Smith, Evans, Edmunds, Van Der Esche, Jefferson, Scales, Jewell.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I suspect that they are working on bringing in at least one more LB in free agency, probably also draft one too. Bills have enough cap space to make 1-2 more significant moves happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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