26CornerBlitz Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) Edited March 14, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Ugh. My mama told me, you better shop around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I mean, I don't want him as a starter, but he did flash some potential at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) Do the Bills take in in a deal to move up to 5? Then draft Josh Allen so he can sit for a year or 2 to develop? If both 1st could get them to between 3rd and 4th, would both get them Siemian and 5th or a combo of other picks? Edited March 14, 2018 by apuszczalowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I'd rather take Siemian than Moore or Anderson. Not by much, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Im extremely interested. For just a gap starter/mentor who would you rather have... Sam Bradford at 20 million or Trevor Siemien at 1 million. For the role we are asking Trevor makes a ton more sense when you factor in price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherChazz Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 He was one of the few QBs that Tyrod flat out beat head-to-head. That game last year could have gone either way at the end. Tyrod was able to use his legs to move the chains on 3rd downs and extend the drives. Siemian hung in the pocket and threw it to our team twice. No thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 For what, a bag of balls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Meh.....one man's garbage is other man's????? more garbage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Spits not swallows. Say 'NO' to Siemian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: Im extremely interested. For just a gap starter/mentor who would you rather have... Sam Bradford at 20 million or Trevor Siemien at 1 million. For the role we are asking Trevor makes a ton more sense when you factor in price. Don't you have to be good and have experience to be considered a mentor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 gross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 He has positives. Started games and has a very low salary. He would be ideal backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: God I hope not. Two years of Semon? Two games might be hard to take let alone two years. If you survived TT, you can survive anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Please..Please..not us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaphappy Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I would do it for a conditional 17th round pick in 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, nucci said: Don't you have to be good and have experience to be considered a mentor? He currently has awhile lot me experience than our alternative... McCarron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Siemian is not that good but none of these guys are that good!! They all had flaws and still got paid. Give them pick 187 in exchange for Siemian and their 7th. You will have a bridge option and your number 2 QB when the rookie is ready. That is a way better idea than throwing $12M at McCarron. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherChazz Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Kmart128 said: He currently has awhile lot me experience than our alternative... McCarron. But wouldn't you say that McCarron has more potential? I mean we know what Trevor Siemian is. There's not enough of a sample size for McCarron to be sure. Which in and of itself makes AJ more attractive as a FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Siemian is not that good but none of these guys are that good!! They all had flaws and still got paid. Give them pick 187 in exchange for Siemian and their 7th. You will have a bridge option and your number 2 QB when the rookie is ready. That is a way better idea than throwing $12M at McCarron. Or the current tire fire that they have now...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 minute ago, BrotherChazz said: But wouldn't you say that McCarron has more potential? I mean we know what Trevor Siemian is. There's not enough of a sample size for McCarron to be sure. Which in and of itself makes AJ more attractive as a FA. Would you pay AJ McCarron 6X (at least) what you would pay Siemian? That is the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, BrotherChazz said: But wouldn't you say that McCarron has more potential? I mean we know what Trevor Siemian is. There's not enough of a sample size for McCarron to be sure. Which in and of itself makes AJ more attractive as a FA. But if the bills are drFting someone high, do they want someone who only has potential? Isnt that what the draft pick is for? They need someone who can start, and then slide into a backup role to the rookie, but able to play well enough to not throw the season away if the rookie struggles or gets hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 he really regressed this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherChazz Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Would you pay AJ McCarron 6X (at least) what you would pay Siemian? That is the situation. For a year to see what he's got. Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, BrotherChazz said: For a year to see what he's got. Sure. Then we disagree. I don’t think a $20M cap hit for AJ McCarron (including the dead money) is better than $8M on Siemian (including dead money). The guy that you are drafting is going to play sooner than later. Siemian has proven that he can play .500 ball. If he is 2-2 and then you plug in Rosen that is fine. I would not, under any circumstances, overpay a bridge QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherChazz Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Then we disagree. I don’t think a $20M cap hit for AJ McCarron (including the dead money) is better than $8M on Siemian (including dead money). The guy that you are drafting is going to play sooner than later. Siemian has proven that he can play .500 ball. If he is 2-2 and then you plug in Rosen that is fine. I would not, under any circumstances, overpay a bridge QB. He's not getting anywhere near $20 Million. We have the only starting job, and apparently nobody else is willing to give him a shot at a starting job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, BrotherChazz said: But wouldn't you say that McCarron has more potential? I mean we know what Trevor Siemian is. There's not enough of a sample size for McCarron to be sure. Which in and of itself makes AJ more attractive as a FA. Sure he does but for a guy that will only start a handful of games tops... Potential doesn't matter that much. The rookie will have all the potential. Plus one will be about 6-8 million dollars cheaper... At least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 good luck with that, Mr . Elway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Siemien seems like a reasonable target for what Buffalo seems to be looking for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 20 minutes ago, nucci said: Don't you have to be good and have experience to be considered a mentor? "Hey kid, watch what he does. And don't do THAT!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, BrotherChazz said: He's not getting anywhere near $20 Million. We have the only starting job, and apparently nobody else is willing to give him a shot at a starting job. They already have $8M dead. $12M contract equals $20M of cap space. McCown got $10M I’d imagine that is the floor for McCarron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherChazz Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, Kmart128 said: Sure he does but for a guy that will only start a handful of games tops... Potential doesn't matter that much. The rookie will have all the potential. Plus one will be about 6-8 million dollars cheaper... At least. Why doesn't potential matter? What if he lights it up? Beane is all about playing for compensatory picks. That's a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Yes please. He is not a bad QB overall, just a bad starter. Quality backup who can start a few games and not lose them for you, I'd love to have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Would a ten dollar chipotle card get it done ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, BrotherChazz said: Why doesn't potential matter? What if he lights it up? Beane is all about playing for compensatory picks. That's a possibility. Then we have a predicament on our hand... With McCarron and whoever the Rookie is. Do we trade McCarron/ let him go and hope we were right on the draft pick? Or do we just keep a top 5 rookie QB on the bench. Siemien is just a better fit for what we are trying to do. To be honest... I want our rookie QB to start day 1 and just have an experienced backup at the ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 37 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: He has positives. Started games and has a very low salary. He would be ideal backup. to the backup! R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 25 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Then we disagree. I don’t think a $20M cap hit for AJ McCarron (including the dead money) is better than $8M on Siemian (including dead money). The guy that you are drafting is going to play sooner than later. Siemian has proven that he can play .500 ball. If he is 2-2 and then you plug in Rosen that is fine. I would not, under any circumstances, overpay a bridge QB. Agree. Id be ok with Siemien as an opening day starter/ bridge. Especially at that cost. Not interested in McCarron at 18-20$m per. We still don't know if AJM is even a .500 guy or if he flat sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 48 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: NCAA or CFL? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said: NCAA or CFL? XFL maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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