Could 2018 be the 1983 QB Draft

[BuffaloButt]

Could this years draft be similar to the 1983 QB draft that we have not had since?  There is a real possibility the top 6 QB's could all be successful (some more than others) but maybe this could be a duplicate type draft finally.  We need a new era of young QB's to start taking over for the older ones that are nearing their end!  I just get a feeling 4 or 5 may end up successful QB's in the league.  Hopefully we end up with one of them!

 

Thoughts??  Go Bills!!

Edited March 12, 2018 by BuffaloButt
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[justnzane]

10 minutes ago, BuffaloButt said:

Could this years draft be similar to the 1984 QB draft that we have not had since?  There is a real possibility the top 6 QB's could all be successful (some more than others) but maybe this could be a duplicate type draft finally.  We need a new era of young QB's to start taking over for the older ones that are nearing their end!  I just get a feeling 4 or 5 may end up successful QB's in the league.  Hopefully we end up with one of them!

 

Thoughts??  Go Bills!!

Do you mean the 83 draft w/ Elway, Marino, Kelly, Eason, Blackledge, and O'Brien?

Edited March 12, 2018 by justnzane

[Doc Brown]

I'm hoping it's more the '83 class although Boomer was a steal in the 2nd round.

[QCity]

4 minutes ago, justnzane said:

Do you mean the 83 draft w/ Elway, Marino, Kelly, Eason, Blackledge, and O'Brien?

 

Maybe he just thinks very highly of Jeff Hostetler and Jay Schroeder?

[BuffaloButt]

6 minutes ago, justnzane said:

Do you mean the 83 draft w/ Elway, Marino, Kelly, Eason, Blackledge, and O'Brien?

Yes 83, you know what I mean!

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Hopefully, and we win 4 super bowls with Mayfield.

 

 

[Yav]

1 hour ago, BuffaloButt said:

Could this years draft be similar to the 1983 QB draft that we have not had since?  There is a real possibility the top 6 QB's could all be successful (some more than others) but maybe this could be a duplicate type draft finally.  We need a new era of young QB's to start taking over for the older ones that are nearing their end!  I just get a feeling 4 or 5 may end up successful QB's in the league.  Hopefully we end up with one of them!

 

Thoughts??  Go Bills!!

I can answer this....

 

NO, not just NO but a HELL NO!

 

IMO, not one of these QBs will be as good as Eason

[Doc Brown]

It reminds me more of the '99 draft where 5 QB's were taken in the top 12 (Couch -1st pick , McNabb- 2nd, Akili Smith - 3rd, Culpepper 11th, McCown -12th).  There was no clear cut consensus number one at quarterback as Akili Smith was believed to have the best arm.  Ironically, the Browns had the first pick and many believed RIcky Williams to be a generational player (especially Ditka) like Barkley is at RB. 

 

It's definitely possible that Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, Allen, and Jackson go in the top half of the draft.  It's also probable you're going to get the same number of hits and busts at QB.

[BuffaloButt]

3 minutes ago, Yav said:

I can answer this....

 

NO, not just NO but a HELL NO!

 

IMO, not one of these QBs will be as good as Eason

 So you don't want the Bill's to move up for any of these QB's?

[Yav]

1 minute ago, BuffaloButt said:

 So you don't want the Bill's to move up for any of these QB's?

Nope. Get one of the FA QBs, keep the pics and get some help on this damn team. 

 

QBs from California colleges seem like a huge risk just like players from Bama (they seem to always be hurt) are. 

 

Bills need: LB, DT, DE, WR, OL & QB 

 

6 pics in the first 3 rounds can address a lot of those needs.

[BuffaloButt]

3 minutes ago, Yav said:

Nope. Get one of the FA QBs, keep the pics and get some help on this damn team. 

 

QBs from California colleges seem like a huge risk just like players from Bama (they seem to always be hurt) are. 

 

Bills need: LB, DT, DE, WR, OL & QB 

 

6 pics in the first 3 rounds can address a lot of those needs.

I guess we need to see who the FA QB is they sign first before we even think about the draft projections!  

[downunderbill]

11 minutes ago, Yav said:

Nope. Get one of the FA QBs, keep the pics and get some help on this damn team. 

 

QBs from California colleges seem like a huge risk just like players from Bama (they seem to always be hurt) are. 

 

Bills need: LB, DT, DE, WR, OL & QB 

 

6 pics in the first 3 rounds can address a lot of those needs.

 

This sounds like the same record that has been playing for 17 years. Even if they land a FA QB, i think they should still trade up. The Bills are going to have a lot more cap room next year, fill the hardest position to get first. they can always add FA's to stop gap other positions. The McBeane's seem to have done well adding solid talent so far.

[cage]

2 hours ago, justnzane said:

Do you mean the 83 draft w/ Elway, Marino, Kelly, Eason, Blackledge, and O'Brien?

 

With a better than average hit rate of 50%... this legendary draft was a coin flip.  Three teams did all their homework and picked duds instead of Dan Marino.... 

[Hellcamino]

3 hours ago, justnzane said:

Do you mean the 83 draft w/ Elway, Marino, Kelly, Eason, Blackledge, and O'Brien?

odd note about that draft, of the 6 QBs taken in the first round, 5 were drafted by AFC east teams.  the Colts were in our division back then and although he never played a game for them, they did draft Elway. I can't recall any other year when all 5 teams from the same division drafted QBs in the first round.  

[justnzane]

2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

It reminds me more of the '99 draft where 5 QB's were taken in the top 12 (Couch -1st pick , McNabb- 2nd, Akili Smith - 3rd, Culpepper 11th, McCown -12th).  There was no clear cut consensus number one at quarterback as Akili Smith was believed to have the best arm.  Ironically, the Browns had the first pick and many believed RIcky Williams to be a generational player (especially Ditka) like Barkley is at RB. 

 

It's definitely possible that Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, Allen, and Jackson go in the top half of the draft.  It's also probable you're going to get the same number of hits and busts at QB.

12th was Cade McNown, not to be confused with either of the McCowns

[atlbillsfan1975]

3 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Hopefully, and we win 4 super bowls with Mayfield.

 

 

Ok, this does it....now I really don’t want Mayfield.:) 

[NastyNateSoldiers]

3 hours ago, BuffaloButt said:

Could this years draft be similar to the 1983 QB draft that we have not had since?  There is a real possibility the top 6 QB's could all be successful (some more than others) but maybe this could be a duplicate type draft finally.  We need a new era of young QB's to start taking over for the older ones that are nearing their end!  I just get a feeling 4 or 5 may end up successful QB's in the league.  Hopefully we end up with one of them!

 

Thoughts??  Go Bills!!

I think its time we put these guys into 2 groups you got the top 3 Darnold,  Mayfield and Rosen then there's quite the dropoff to Allen, Lamar and Rudolph.  Mof Rudolph should be in the Mike White , Lauletta group in the 3rd teir.

[oldmanfan]

You think there's three HOFers in this year's draft?  Not me.

[Nihilarian]

It's shaping up to look like that 83 draft class in a sense. Although, this would mean a player like Andrew Luck who was a once in a decade type player would be a positive first overall and nobody else even close and that simply isn't happening this year.

 

Then in 83 if Jim Kelly hadn't injured his shoulder so badly in his senior year that he needed pins in it to hold it together...he was told by the doctors that he would never attain full throwing motion or he might have given Elway a run for that #1 overall spot. 

 

Then If Dan Marino wasn't suspected of smoking pot and being a hard party animal he might have gone much earlier in the draft also. The rumors about him really flew that year. 

 

There is no question that six QB's could be taken in the first round this year and all of them have warts, unlike Elway who was also signed by the Yankees to be a baseball player. 

 

Sam Darnold, with his smallish hands and his turnovers, has the fact that only one of all the hyped QB's over the years out of USC has only produced Carson Palmer.  USC QB's must be good enough to keep their jobs from other QB's and are usually surrounded by quality coaching, players and for some reason that hasn't translated to being a top NFL QB.

 

Elongated release is impossible to miss. Ball drops to his waist with forearm pointed towards the ground, pre-delivery. Windup gives defenders early clue to break on the throw. Muscle memory may not allow for release correction. Turnover total is alarming. Finished 2017 with 13 interceptions and nine lost fumbles. Has 20 interceptions over last 20 games.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/sam-darnold?id=2560057

 

Josh Rosen, at least Rosen has Troy Aikman and Bob Waterfield who are NFL HoFers and the best since the late 80"s-1940s has been Wade Cook, Cade McNown, and Drew Olsen.

Still, this kid has durability issues in that he has very little pocket escape ability and once he takes a big hit he is usually injured. 

 

"Too casual in pocket set-up. Decision making and post-snap reads are inconsistent. Refuses easy throws at times. Arm talent and strength are below average. May need to make greater effort to drive field and seam throws. Poor career deep ball completion rate. Excess air under ball allows challenges. Lacks gun to challenge safeties with rip throws over the top. Needs better anticipation. Poor mobility. Struggles to elude early pressure. Completed just 42.4 percent of his throws when forced to move."

 

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/josh-rosen?id=2560059

 

Josh Allen, highest ceiling and cannon for an arm. Although so many are complaining about his accuracy issues in college and he could also be the biggest bust. If anyone looks like the next Jim Kelly, Big Ben it's this kid at 6'5'' 233 who shakes off tacklers and is a gunslinger. "it's rare to find a quarterback with such a low college completion rate become a successful pro." Although, Matthew Stafford, Jay Cutler and Tyrod Taylor all improved their accuracy in the nFL.

 

Baker Mayfield, who looks like the next Drew Brees, Russell Wilson and has the very best accuracy in this year's draft. This kid can do it all with a great arm. His only issue is that he is not quite 6'1''. A touchdown machine in college. Although, "Spread quarterbacks have had limited success as have small quarterbacks!"

 

Lamar Jackson, "Carries spindly legs and a thin base. Slightly built for punishing hits he takes from pocket and as a runner. Must learn to slide. Lackadaisical in setup. Throws with excessively narrow base and stiff front side. Flips it rather than throws it. Makes targets work too hard. Sails throws that can end up in hands of a safety. At times, hesitates to challenge safeties in the seam. Low release point leads to tipped passes. Typically gets through reads 1 and 2 before halting progressions. Pocket awareness has room for improvement. Move accuracy on rollouts and scrambles is poor. Highly inaccurate with throws on the move throughout the 2017 season. Underthrown deep balls allow cornerbacks to play the ball. Lacks touch over the heads of middle linebackers into intermediate pockets. Turnover total still too high. "

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/lamar-jackson?id=2560053

 

Very erratic with throws as one looks great and the next a duck. If you like running QB's you will love Jackson!

 

Mason Rudolph, "Over-strides at times. Rarely drives lower body through the throw causing ball to sail and float. May not generate enough velocity to beat ball-hawking corners who strangle passing windows. Field-side outs will be a challenge. Needs throws to stay on schedule. Needs to throw with better timing and placement on comeback and outs. Defaults to off-platform throws when he has time to step and deliver. Ball placement and decision making can run askew when forced to scramble from pocket. Ball will come out wobbly at times. Inexperienced as rollout passer. Benefitted from ball-winning targets downfield. Wasn't asked to get through many progressions in the offense. Has had ball security issues as a starter. "

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/mason-rudolph?id=2559942

 

The Steelers look to be very interested in this kid. 

 

 

Hall of fame QBs? The three I like are Allen, Mayfield, and Rudolph...so those three are cursed. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 12, 2018 by Nihilarian

[Solomon Grundy]

22 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

It's shaping up to look like that 83 draft class in a sense. Although, this would mean a player like Andrew Luck who was a once in a decade type player would be a positive first overall and nobody else even close and that simply isn't happening this year.

 

Then in 83 if Jim Kelly hadn't injured his shoulder so badly in his senior year that he needed pins in it to hold it together...he was told by the doctors that he would never attain full throwing motion or he might have given Elway a run for that #1 overall spot. 

 

Then If Dan Marino wasn't suspected of smoking pot and being a hard party animal he might have gone much earlier in the draft also. The rumors about him really flew that year. 

 

There is no question that six QB's could be taken in the first round this year and all of them have warts, unlike Elway who was also signed by the Yankees to be a baseball player. 

 

Sam Darnold, with his smallish hands and his turnovers, has the fact that only one of all the hyped QB's over the years out of USC has only produced Carson Palmer.  USC QB's must be good enough to keep their jobs from other QB's and are usually surrounded by quality coaching, players and for some reason that hasn't translated to being a top NFL QB.

 

Elongated release is impossible to miss. Ball drops to his waist with forearm pointed towards the ground, pre-delivery. Windup gives defenders early clue to break on the throw. Muscle memory may not allow for release correction. Turnover total is alarming. Finished 2017 with 13 interceptions and nine lost fumbles. Has 20 interceptions over last 20 games.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/sam-darnold?id=2560057

 

Josh Rosen, at least Rosen has Troy Aikman and Bob Waterfield who are NFL HoFers and the best since the late 80"s-1940s has been Wade Cook, Cade McNown, and Drew Olsen.

Still, this kid has durability issues in that he has very little pocket escape ability and once he takes a big hit he is usually injured. 

 

"Too casual in pocket set-up. Decision making and post-snap reads are inconsistent. Refuses easy throws at times. Arm talent and strength are below average. May need to make greater effort to drive field and seam throws. Poor career deep ball completion rate. Excess air under ball allows challenges. Lacks gun to challenge safeties with rip throws over the top. Needs better anticipation. Poor mobility. Struggles to elude early pressure. Completed just 42.4 percent of his throws when forced to move."

 

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/josh-rosen?id=2560059

 

Josh Allen, highest ceiling and cannon for an arm. Although so many are complaining about his accuracy issues in college and he could also be the biggest bust. If anyone looks like the next Jim Kelly, Big Ben it's this kid at 6'5'' 233 who shakes off tacklers and is a gunslinger. "it's rare to find a quarterback with such a low college completion rate become a successful pro." Although, Matthew Stafford, Jay Cutler and Tyrod Taylor all improved their accuracy in the nFL.

 

Baker Mayfield, who looks like the next Drew Brees, Russell Wilson and has the very best accuracy in this year's draft. This kid can do it all with a great arm. His only issue is that he is not quite 6'1''. A touchdown machine in college. Although, "Spread quarterbacks have had limited success as have small quarterbacks!"

 

Lamar Jackson, "Carries spindly legs and a thin base. Slightly built for punishing hits he takes from pocket and as a runner. Must learn to slide. Lackadaisical in setup. Throws with excessively narrow base and stiff front side. Flips it rather than throws it. Makes targets work too hard. Sails throws that can end up in hands of a safety. At times, hesitates to challenge safeties in the seam. Low release point leads to tipped passes. Typically gets through reads 1 and 2 before halting progressions. Pocket awareness has room for improvement. Move accuracy on rollouts and scrambles is poor. Highly inaccurate with throws on the move throughout the 2017 season. Underthrown deep balls allow cornerbacks to play the ball. Lacks touch over the heads of middle linebackers into intermediate pockets. Turnover total still too high. "

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/lamar-jackson?id=2560053

 

Very erratic with throws as one looks great and the next a duck. If you like running QB's you will love Jackson!

 

Mason Rudolph, "Over-strides at times. Rarely drives lower body through the throw causing ball to sail and float. May not generate enough velocity to beat ball-hawking corners who strangle passing windows. Field-side outs will be a challenge. Needs throws to stay on schedule. Needs to throw with better timing and placement on comeback and outs. Defaults to off-platform throws when he has time to step and deliver. Ball placement and decision making can run askew when forced to scramble from pocket. Ball will come out wobbly at times. Inexperienced as rollout passer. Benefitted from ball-winning targets downfield. Wasn't asked to get through many progressions in the offense. Has had ball security issues as a starter. "

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/mason-rudolph?id=2559942

 

The Steelers look to be very interested in this kid. 

 

 

Hall of fame QBs? The three I like are Allen, Mayfield, and Rudolph...so those three are cursed. 

 

 

 

 

 

Josh Rosen had 26 INTs, Sam Darnold had 22 INTs, but Lamar Jackson's 27 INTs are so astronomically different that they had to say his was too high?

[auburnbillsbacker]

I think this is more likely the Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, and Jake Locker draft.  (2011)  Newton was in that draft as well, but like 2011 I expect more busts than franchise QBs this year. 

[billsbackto81]

I'd prefer the Class of 2004.

Big Ben: 2 rings

Eli: 2 rings

Rivers: pro bowls and playoff appearances

JP: fond memories

[SoTier]

5 hours ago, BuffaloButt said:

Could this years draft be similar to the 1983 QB draft that we have not had since?  There is a real possibility the top 6 QB's could all be successful (some more than others) but maybe this could be a duplicate type draft finally.  We need a new era of young QB's to start taking over for the older ones that are nearing their end!  I just get a feeling 4 or 5 may end up successful QB's in the league.  Hopefully we end up with one of them!

 

Thoughts??  Go Bills!!

 

No, it's not a reprise of 1983.  It's also not a reprise of the next best QB class of 2004.  Both of those classes had consensus #1 prospects who were clearly superior to all the other prospects (Elway in '83 and Eli in '04), including being pro-ready.  They also had at least one other pro-ready QB prospect (Marino in '83 and Roethlisberger in '04).  Because most of the top propsects played in pro-style collegiate offenses, there were many fewer question marks about the prospects in '83 and in '04, and still teams managed to find first round busts like Blackledge and Losman.

 

All of the 2018 top QBs come with serious questions about how they'll adapt to the NFL.  These is no consensus "best prospect" likely to go #1 or at least first among the QBs.  Most have not played in pro-style offenses, so there are all kinds of questions about how these kids will adapt to the style and complexities of the pro game.  None are nearly as pro-ready as the top QBs from 1983 or 2004.  Additionally, most of the top QBs seem to also have mechanical or technical flaws that are probably going to have to be "fixed" if they're going to have real shots at NFL success. 

 

IMO, 2018 is more like 2011 than 1983 or 2004: probably 1 bonafide top prospect (Newton) and a flock of pretenders (Locker, Gabbert, Ponder) being pushed by hype machines courtesy of self-styled "draft experts", 24/7 sports networks, and social media.

 

[bmur66]

That would be great. Marino will be there at 21. I say we pick him. I think the "party boy" rumors are just that.

 

Edited March 12, 2018 by bmur66

[PromoTheRobot]

6 hours ago, QCity said:

 

Maybe he just thinks very highly of Jeff Hostetler and Jay Schroeder?

 

Yup, best QB draft ever still had duds. Better hope we pick a winner.

[26CornerBlitz]

7 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

I'm hoping it's more the '83 class although Boomer was a steal in the 2nd round.

 

Boomer was in the 1984 draft.

[Chuck Wagon]

3 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

 

 

Baker Mayfield, who looks like the next Drew Brees, Russell Wilson and has the very best accuracy in this year's draft. This kid can do it all with a great arm. His only issue is that he is not quite 6'1''. A touchdown machine in college. Although, "Spread quarterbacks have had limited success as have small quarterbacks!"

 

 

 

 

If Baker's height was his only issue he'd be the consensus #1 overall pick.

[MrEpsYtown]

The quarterback with the Marino-esque release will drop ala Marino because of nonsense? Nah, Rosen is going #2 to us

[Boatdrinks]

Could be.... but I'll go out on a limb and say it's unlikely lol. Not exactly a hot take.  

[USABuffaloFan]

8 hours ago, BuffaloButt said:

Could this years draft be similar to the 1983 QB draft that we have not had since?  There is a real possibility the top 6 QB's could all be successful (some more than others) but maybe this could be a duplicate type draft finally.  We need a new era of young QB's to start taking over for the older ones that are nearing their end!  I just get a feeling 4 or 5 may end up successful QB's in the league.  Hopefully we end up with one of them!

 

Thoughts??  Go Bills!!

You open a thread claiming this QB class could be as good as 83' then go and say 4 or 5 maybe successful. The class of 83' was special because all 6 QB drafted in 1st round were starters and stars. They had 3 Hall of Famers. Not sure you understand how good this class was, I don't even know if any of these QB's could be Blackledge or O'Brien let alone Elway, Marino or Kelly. Even Eason made it to SB with Doug Flutie's help. As others mentioned even later QB's were quite successful.

7 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

It reminds me more of the '99 draft where 5 QB's were taken in the top 12 (Couch -1st pick , McNabb- 2nd, Akili Smith - 3rd, Culpepper 11th, McCown -12th).  There was no clear cut consensus number one at quarterback as Akili Smith was believed to have the best arm.  Ironically, the Browns had the first pick and many believed RIcky Williams to be a generational player (especially Ditka) like Barkley is at RB. 

 

It's definitely possible that Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, Allen, and Jackson go in the top half of the draft.  It's also probable you're going to get the same number of hits and busts at QB.

Very good comparison. Two Thumbs up!

[NastyNateSoldiers]

I think this class can be another 2004 class.

[USABuffaloFan]

7 hours ago, BuffaloButt said:

 So you don't want the Bill's to move up for any of these QB's?

Marino was the last QB picked in 83' draft. Just as likely Jackson is a star as Darnold. The "talent" is there but there is no Elway for sure. Baker is interesting but size here does matter. I am more interested in what Jackson and Rudolph have to bring then Rosen, Darnold or Allen. I am intrigued about Baker but not unless he drops to 21, too much risk. Depending on what Bills do in Free Agency, "starter" I would draft Jackson and see what he can be a few years from now. Saying this means he is a scratch this year game day and Peterman is the backup to let say Keenum, Foles or Bradford. I do not see a starter for the Bills in this years draft. Same goes if Baker falls, he needs at least a year watching. Risk is too much to go for QB ready type Darnold or Rosen. Tops level for these guys probably not higher than Keenum or McCarron or they would be thought of as the TOP PICK!

7 hours ago, downunderbill said:

 

This sounds like the same record that has been playing for 17 years. Even if they land a FA QB, i think they should still trade up. The Bills are going to have a lot more cap room next year, fill the hardest position to get first. they can always add FA's to stop gap other positions. The McBeane's seem to have done well adding solid talent so far.

This is a large QB free agent class with upside to it. Not like other years with old guys or failures. There are legitimate starters here. I am intrigued by McCarron, just as good as a draft pick and has some NFL tape. He has shown he can play in the NFL. 

[Yav]

4 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

No, it's not a reprise of 1983.  It's also not a reprise of the next best QB class of 2004.  Both of those classes had consensus #1 prospects who were clearly superior to all the other prospects (Elway in '83 and Eli in '04), including being pro-ready.  They also had at least one other pro-ready QB prospect (Marino in '83 and Roethlisberger in '04).  Because most of the top propsects played in pro-style collegiate offenses, there were many fewer question marks about the prospects in '83 and in '04, and still teams managed to find first round busts like Blackledge and Losman.

 

All of the 2018 top QBs come with serious questions about how they'll adapt to the NFL.  These is no consensus "best prospect" likely to go #1 or at least first among the QBs.  Most have not played in pro-style offenses, so there are all kinds of questions about how these kids will adapt to the style and complexities of the pro game.  None are nearly as pro-ready as the top QBs from 1983 or 2004.  Additionally, most of the top QBs seem to also have mechanical or technical flaws that are probably going to have to be "fixed" if they're going to have real shots at NFL success. 

 

IMO, 2018 is more like 2011 than 1983 or 2004: probably 1 bonafide top prospect (Newton) and a flock of pretenders (Locker, Gabbert, Ponder) being pushed by hype machines courtesy of self-styled "draft experts", 24/7 sports networks, and social media.

 

Problem is the Bills and most of the fan base are so starved for a QB they are willing to accept anything at this point. 

[simool]

 

10 hours ago, BuffaloButt said:

Could this years draft be similar to the 1983 QB draft that we have not had since?  There is a real possibility the top 6 QB's could all be successful (some more than others) but maybe this could be a duplicate type draft finally.  We need a new era of young QB's to start taking over for the older ones that are nearing their end!  I just get a feeling 4 or 5 may end up successful QB's in the league.  Hopefully we end up with one of them!

 

Thoughts??  Go Bills!!

 

[Victory Formation]

I think this class will produce a few gems, just from a sheer numbers standpoint. I mean Rosen, Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Jackson, Rudolph, Lauletta, White etc. Too many good prospects for there not to be at least a couple stars.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

8 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Ok, this does it....now I really don’t want Mayfield.:) 

 

Your late to the party lol

 

 

[Doc Brown]

5 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Boomer was in the 1984 draft.

Yeah.  I know.  The title of this thread originally had 1984 on it instead of '83.