Reed83HOF Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) Jason La CanforaVerified account @JasonLaCanfora Hearing more and more about the Broncos and Case Keenum. The Cousins derby very likely to come down to Jets or Vikings • Happy Hue. This comes from an executive with a historically reliable ear to the ground: Cleveland, with four picks in the top 35 of the draft, is still exceedingly interested in signing free-agent quarterback A.J. McCarron after the trade-deadline-day debacle last fall … and then backstopping him with a rookie quarterback in the draft. I’m hearing that’s coach Hue Jackson’s preference, having coached McCarron in Cincinnati as Bengals offensive coordinator. https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/05/nfl-combine-2018-news-josh-rosen-shaquem-griffin-mmqb-peter-king Edited March 5, 2018 by Reed83HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I think if Denver signs Keenum, they will take Mayfield. But I think they could trade down from 5 and still do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I think if Denver signs Keenum, they will take Mayfield. But I think they could trade down from 5 and still do that. I could see that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) Edited March 4, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) Man, I really want the Bills to take Mayfield...but if we leave this draft without one of the big 3 QBs, it will be a failure of epic proportions imo. Edited March 5, 2018 by JaCrispy 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I didn't see this one coming. Makes sense with Denver still thinking they got that window and out of the Cousins sweepstakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I still see the Jets giving him something astronomical.Big name,big city,big money and a fan base that is demanding change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 We need Broncos or Jets to get Cousins. If they don't then they both will be drafting QB's at 5 and 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Man, I really want the Bills to take Mayfield...but if we leave this draft without one of the big 3 QBs, it is an epic failure imo. I'd be disappointed, but it's not a failure. It always takes two to tango and just because the Bills are dangling whatever in someone's face doesn't mean they have to or want to take it. They just might be glued in on their guy and say thanks but no thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Which means none of this will happen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I really don’t think Keenum is that good. Clearly neither do the Vikings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 minute ago, NewEraBills said: I'd be disappointed, but it's not a failure. It always takes two to tango and just because the Bills are dangling whatever in someone's face doesn't mean they have to or want to take it. They just might be glued in on their guy and say thanks but no thanks. I hear ya...just don’t think I could get excited about the draft if we don’t land one of the big 3 QBs...it would mean we are basically still in a QB purgatory that we can never seem to find our way out of- even with extra draft ammo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, kdiggz said: We need Broncos or Jets to get Cousins. If they don't then they both will be drafting QB's at 5 and 6 Or they could be the Giants and Colts trade targets where they don't lose out on the blue chip player they want. I could easily see the Giants trading with the Jets or Broncos. Giants having Nelson in mind at both picks. They could lose him to the Colts though so .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I thought he would be going to Minnesota or NYJ , but since laconfora tweeted it, odds are cousins will be going somewhere else as that guy doesn’t get many reports right ... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Which means none of this will happen As bad as he normally is, he might have broken clock syndrome in this particular case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I hear ya...just don’t think I could get excited about the draft if we don’t land one of the big 3 QBs...it would mean we are basically still in a QB purgatory that we can never seem to find our way out of- even with extra draft ammo. I agree with you, but part of this is because we did so well this year record wise, which I wouldn't trade. If we win 4 games, these conversations and scenarios are easier to talk about. But then we'd still have that playoff thing on our backs so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, kdiggz said: We need Broncos or Jets to get Cousins. If they don't then they both will be drafting QB's at 5 and 6 I think we are going to have to make 2 trades in order to get up there and get our qb... 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: As bad as he normally is, he might have broken clock syndrome in this particular case. I never saw Denver as a serious consideration for him - they are on the down turn imo. Minny for win now and NYJ for $$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: I still see the Jets giving him something astronomical.Big name,big city,big money and a fan base that is demanding change. It does add up. Woody Johnson likes the big splash and the Jets have been drafting bad QB's for years. The laughable part to me is that he used to go after guys like Peyton Manning and Favre. I think breaking the bank on Cousins is a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I think we are going to have to make 2 trades in order to get up there and get our qb... I never saw Denver as a serious consideration for him - they are on the down turn imo. Minny for win now and NYJ for $$$ LaConjecture isn't the only one reporting on these developments so I believe this has legs. These guys doesn't agree. We'll see in about nine days. Edited March 5, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 48 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think if Denver signs Keenum, they will take Mayfield. But I think they could trade down from 5 and still do that. I don’t see that. I think if they sign Keenum, they won’t draft a QB early. It offers Elway some breathing room to take a QB later, or wait a year. And since Elway is terrible, that’s a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 28 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I really don’t think Keenum is that good. Clearly neither do the Vikings. I think DeFellipo really loves Sam Bradford. He also saw a lot of Cousins in the NFC East, so I think they go with either Bradford or Cousins. The Keenum to Denver thing doesn't make a ton of sense, but suppose its a reasonable bridge. There are connections as he started his career with Gary Kubiak, but Kubiak jerked Keenum around quite a bit in Houston. He is obviously in Elway's ear and Kubiak has said good things about Keenum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: I don’t see that. I think if they sign Keenum, they won’t draft a QB early. It offers Elway some breathing room to take a QB later, or wait a year. And since Elway is terrible, that’s a good thing. Lol. I think that plan sucks but I hope they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Word is the Broncos are talking to the Browns about moving up to 1st overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 35 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: It does add up. Woody Johnson likes the big splash and the Jets have been drafting bad QB's for years. The laughable part to me is that he used to go after guys like Peyton Manning and Favre. I think breaking the bank on Cousins is a mistake. woody is in Ireland , the Jets are going to be kept in the discussion to keep Minn offers as high as possible. He is going to the viks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 What are the chances Chad Kelly succeeds in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just now, Binghamton Beast said: What are the chances Chad Kelly succeeds in the NFL? If he does, it likely won't be in Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: What are the chances Chad Kelly succeeds in the NFL? Chad Kelly Truthers should plan their watch parties for Denver’s 4th preseason game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 54 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: If the Broncos sign Keenum off the market AND take a QB at 5 that could hurt the Bills. Might have to leapfrog Denver.. I was hoping they could target the Broncos pick . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 the market shirks quickly if the Viks go cousins and Denver goes Kennum and drafts a qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: If the Broncos sign Keenum off the market AND take a QB at 5 that could hurt the Bills. Might have to leapfrog Denver.. I was hoping they could target the Broncos pick . It could. I don't see Keenum as anything more than a journeyman QB, so drafting his eventual replacement makes sense to me. So many scenarios at this point. Clarity is around the corner though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Obviously, unless the Bills also sign a viable starting QB in free agency. If they don't, and don't trade up, it is to the Bills benefit to have as many of the top QBs still on the board when Goodell is ready to announce the 21st pick. 5 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: If the Broncos sign Keenum off the market AND take a QB at 5 that could hurt the Bills. Might have to leapfrog Denver.. I was hoping they could target the Broncos pick . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: If the Broncos sign Keenum off the market AND take a QB at 5 that could hurt the Bills. Might have to leapfrog Denver.. I was hoping they could target the Broncos pick . I'm guessing Elway loves Josh Allen. I think we could see a Denver and Buffalo trade up to 1-2 for Allen and Rosen (like teh Rams and Eagles a few years back). Cleveland could trade back with Denver and still have 4-5...if the Colts take Chubb, which most assume, the Browns can grab Barkley at 4 and then Darnold or Mayfield at 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 This could also mean that they take a later round QB, no? Someone like Rudolph to learn behind Keenum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, SinceThe70s said: It does add up. Woody Johnson likes the big splash and the Jets have been drafting bad QB's for years. The laughable part to me is that he used to go after guys like Peyton Manning and Favre. I think breaking the bank on Cousins is a mistake. THe guy has thrown for 4000 yards each for the last three seasons, Did you see him play against us a few years ago...He was simply incredible. He is definitely better than Favre or Manning *on their last legs*. That guy has earned the money in today's NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Are the Broncos out on Cousins or something? If they draft Mayfield at 5 why would they need Keenum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 36 minutes ago, baskingridgebillsfan said: woody is in Ireland , the Jets are going to be kept in the discussion to keep Minn offers as high as possible. He is going to the viks. Yup, I know he's been an Ambassador for the past year, but I assume he's still involved in Jets decision making. You may be right about Cousins going to the Vikes, my point had more to do with the Jets interest in Cousins making sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, horned dogs said: Are the Broncos out on Cousins or something? If they draft Mayfield at 5 why would they need Keenum? Gotta have a good backup. He was a backup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, horned dogs said: Are the Broncos out on Cousins or something? If they draft Mayfield at 5 why would they need Keenum? Keenum is not a franchise QB imo. I do think he is very similar to Mayfield though in terms of traits though Mayfield has better arm. I could see signing him and starting whoever wins the job in camp. Edited March 5, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 17 minutes ago, ganesh said: THe guy has thrown for 4000 yards each for the last three seasons, Did you see him play against us a few years ago...He was simply incredible. He is definitely better than Favre or Manning *on their last legs*. That guy has earned the money in today's NFL Has Cousins led a team to 10 wins yet? Fair point about Manning/Favre being on their last legs when Woody wanted them. I'm just not convinced that five years from now we'll be using Cousins, Favre and Manning in the same sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: Man, I really want the Bills to take Mayfield...but if we leave this draft without one of the big 3 QBs, it will be a failure of epic proportions imo. Im feeling more and more this way too. I mean we knew we had to get a qb going in, but if we dont end up with one of the top qbs it will be incredibly disappointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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