26CornerBlitz Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 22 minutes ago, zevo said: I thought he mentioned that there are multiple teams that would be interested in trading back 2-19: Benjamin Allbright of 1340 AM and 104.7 FM in Denver with Howard Simon (8:29) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: 2-19: Benjamin Allbright of 1340 AM and 104.7 FM in Denver with Howard Simon (8:29) He says “there will be no difficulty getting up there” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, zevo said: He says “there will be no difficulty getting up there” He also said there will be lots of suitors for the 3rd pick with the Colts looking to trade out. Edited February 19, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 The mistake in this will be if we get the QB and don't use our other resources to fill in the gaps on offense. Set this QB up for success by getting offensive lineman, a wide receiver and another running back. If you are going to spend a ton of draft picks on getting the guy, you best be doing everything in your power to surround that guy with talent and give him the best opportunity to be successful. It'd be a great disservice in my opinion to trade up for the QB and then go after defensive guys while leaving gaping holes on the offense. I know the defense needs work but look at what Philly did with Carson Wentz...surrounded him with talents and he eased right in to success. I repeat, if you are going to invest in the QB, really invest in him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 26 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Then the combine will point all this out wont it? I think its obvious he already had multiple concussions last yr alone. Plus the nerve issue in 2016. This is a serious red flag in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 This guy's twitter profile pic should be in urban dictionary next to the word douche. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I’d be upset if they WEREN’T calling around, doing all the homework and due diligence. I’m kind of excited to see how it all plays out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 5 hours ago, Steptide said: I know I'm late to this discussion, but I'd find it hard to believe if the bills are really trying that hard to get into the top 10 already. I know beane is the gm, but with McDermott being incredibly thorough about everything, I'd be surprised if they 100% had their guy before the combine or free agency even started. That woukd seem panicky to me and I don't see McDermott or beane being that way I don't think it's panicky. I also don't think it's serious discussion at this point. It's more "we might have an interest in moving up, depending on the combine...have you thought about trading down? what would you take?" stage of gauging interest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 52 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't think it's panicky. I also don't think it's serious discussion at this point. It's more "we might have an interest in moving up, depending on the combine...have you thought about trading down? what would you take?" stage of gauging interest. It's all due diligence and to begin to put the plan together based on how the draft unfolds... I for one will be astounded if we don't trade up for a QB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 5 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: I think its obvious he already had multiple concussions last yr alone. Plus the nerve issue in 2016. This is a serious red flag in my opinion. Good then the Combine will medically red flag him as well wont it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 On 2/17/2018 at 9:26 PM, Logic said: I agree that out of the top 5 QBs, Allen is the one I am most leery of. Big arm, great athleticism, bad accuracy. Losman and Manuel all over again. I personally want Mayfield, but would be happy with Darnold or Rosen as well. Allen, though? Yuck. Neither Rosen or Allen are worth trading up. Only Darnold. Now if by some act of God Sam Darnold falls to 3/4, you push all your chips to the center of the table. Or wait till 21/22 and go Rudolph/Jackson back to back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Neither Rosen or Allen are worth trading up. Only Darnold. Now if by some act of God Sam Darnold falls to 3/4, you push all your chips to the center of the table. Or wait till 21/22 and go Rudolph/Jackson back to back. Gross. All in on another USC QB? No way. Rosen is the real deal of this draft, hands down. If we end up trading up and go anybody else, i'll be sick. The kid is gonna be great at the next level. I will bookmark this and come back in 2 years. I'd bet the farm on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Gross. All in on another USC QB? No way. Rosen is the real deal of this draft, hands down. If we end up trading up and go anybody else, i'll be sick. The kid is gonna be great at the next level. I will bookmark this and come back in 2 years. I'd bet the farm on it Mayfield is growing on me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Mayfield is growing on me If he was 2 inches taller, he would be the consensus #1 pick. It's amazing what 2 extra inches can get you and being 2 inches to small can do to you... Edited February 19, 2018 by Reed83HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Mayfield is growing on me Mayfield is the guy I want Buffalo to draft. I'll be fine with Darnold or Rosen, too, but Mayfield... Oftentimes, when a quarterback prospect has that undefinable "it factor" of leadership, rallying guys around him, elevating the play of those around him, said player doesn't have the physical skills to match. Therefore he does not succeed in the big leagues. The Tim Tebows, if you will. Mayfield, though? This guy has that quality AND the physical skills to get the job done. Go ahead and save this for #ColdTakes later on, but Mayfield is gonna be a stud in the NFL for a long time, and whichever QB-needy teams pass on him will regret it. Sadly, I have this gut feeling that the Bills don't feel the same way about Mayfield that I do. So be it. I just hope he doesn't go to the Jets, Dolphins, or Patriots instead. Heck, I hope he doesn't go to anyone in the WHOLE AFC if he doesn't become a Bill. Last time I felt this passionate about a guy was Deshaun Watson last year. Good thing the Bills didn't agree with me on that one! Really dodged a bullet! Edited February 19, 2018 by Logic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, Logic said: Mayfield is the guy I want Buffalo to draft. I'll be fine with Darnold or Rosen, too, but Mayfield... Oftentimes, when a quarterback prospect has that undefinable "it factor" of leadership, rallying guys around him, elevating the play of those around him, said player doesn't have the physical skills to match. Therefore he does not succeed in the big leagues. The Tim Tebows, if you will. Mayfield, though? This guy has that quality AND the physical skills to get the job done. Go ahead and save this for #ColdTakes later on, but Mayfield is gonna be a stud in the NFL for a long time, and whichever QB-needy teams pass on him will regret it. Sadly, I have this gut feeling that the Bills don't feel the same way about Mayfield that I do. So be it. I just hope he doesn't go to the Jets, Dolphins, or Patriots instead. Heck, I hope he doesn't go to anyone in the WHOLE AFC if he doesn't become a Bill. Last time I felt this passionate about a guy was Deshaun Watson last year. Good thing the Bills didn't agree with me on that one! Really dodged a bullet! I heard somebody (maybe Herbstriet?) say 3-5 years from now we are going to wonder why it was so hard to see how good Mayfield would turn out to be. Time will tell.... Hold your thumb and forefinger 1.5- 2 inches apart, and ask yourself if that’s all the difference in the world. Sure, it IS one factor, out of many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Mayfield is growing on me I do like him as well. More now than a month ago. I'd prefer Rosen, but I could definately get on board with Mayfield. The only two I'd move up for 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 45 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: If he was 2 inches taller, he would be the consensus #1 pick. It's amazing what 2 extra inches can get you and being 2 inches to small can do to you... So true...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 On 2/17/2018 at 4:20 PM, McBean said: All signs are pointing towards Josh Rosen. I believe we've identified him as the face of this franchise for the next 10+ years.. This would be terrible, Rosen will is not a Buffalo type guy and would be a terrible face of the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toua77 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) On 2/17/2018 at 3:15 PM, BrooklynBills said: This would be a setup to get to #2 IMO. Something like 21, 53, Shaq Lawson to CHI for 8. Then 8, 22, Glenn, 19 2nd for 2 I wouldnt doubt Beane has already talked to Gettleman and was told get a top 10 pick and we have the framework for a deal That won't be enough for us to get to 7-10 range. Teams moving up rarely give up "even" value. Combined with everyone knowing we're moving up for a QB means we'll get taxed. I doubt anyone is coveting Shaq that much, theres pass rushing prospects that should be available to Tampa or Chicago like Davenport, and Edmunds(More of a swiss army knife than a pure pass rushing prospect but still) if they choose to stand pat. Edited February 20, 2018 by Toua77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 9 hours ago, greeneblitz said: This would be terrible, Rosen will is not a Buffalo type guy and would be a terrible face of the franchise. If the Bills identify Rosen as their guy, who are we to argue. And their is serious dialogue going on between the Bills and Giants. The Giants do believe in Davis Webb. Take it for what it's worth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 1 hour ago, njbuff said: If the Bills identify Rosen as their guy, who are we to argue. And their is serious dialogue going on between the Bills and Giants. The Giants do believe in Davis Webb. Take it for what it's worth. I will take Rosen all day long, best QB in the draft as of now (not sure how Allen will develop or not) IMO... Relationships help trades. I would be surprised to see NYG go from 2 to 21 &22 - I would expect a trade up higher and then to #2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Rosen or Mayfield and I'll be over the moon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 If the Giants don’t take a QB at 2, the Colts will trade that pick to Broncos, Jets, or Bills. No way the Colts stay there as they can get same player trading down plus draft picks and they have a ton of needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: If the Giants don’t take a QB at 2, the Colts will trade that pick to Broncos, Jets, or Bills. No way the Colts stay there as they can get same player trading down plus draft picks and they have a ton of needs. Umm no?? Maybe if they trade to broncos/jets, as you're only risking a couple of spots for the "same player" to be there. The "same player" will not be there at 21/22 if they trade with the bills, that's the whole point of trading up in the draft, because the "same player" won't be there 18 picks later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 This could be the most interesting free agency , draft and trade period ever, it could be risky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 44 minutes ago, ALF said: This could be the most interesting free agency , draft and trade period ever, it could be risky. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 something to keep in mind... the only players the Bills have talked to so far are the guys that were at the Senior Bowl: Allen, Mayfield, Rudolph, White, Lauletta anything that says they are all in on Rosen, Darnold, Jackson is pure speculation. they have scouted them and watched film but still tbd is the interview, measurements, workout, visit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) Welp... looks like Albright may have been full of crap (damn it!) - http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/03/buffalo_bills_have_not_been_engaged_in_talks_to_move_up_in_2018_nfl_draft_says_a.html Quote Toby Motyka, sports anchor for 13WHAM ABC and Fox Rochester, recently caught up with Schefter at the 2018 NFL Scouting Combine. Motyka took the opportunity to ask Schefter about reports of the Bills reaching out to teams in the top 10 to potentially move up for a quarterback. Schefter told Motyka that he had not had heard of the Buffalo Bills engaging in any talks to move up in the draft as of now. "No, I've not heard that," Schefter said. "Now that doesn't mean that it couldn't happen, but I know there are people who have said that and suggested that and the people I've dealt with in Buffalo have been very honest to me all along. And they have not confirmed that. So again, anything is possible. And we could get to the draft and they could move up, but that's not my understanding as of today that they have been engaged in any talks to move up in the draft." Hopefully they're just waiting until after the combine... Edited March 2, 2018 by BillsFan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 17 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: FWIW, which isn't a lot at this stage of the proceedings. 1 minute ago, BillsFan4 said: Welp... looks like Albright may have been full of crap (damn it!) - http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/03/buffalo_bills_have_not_been_engaged_in_talks_to_move_up_in_2018_nfl_draft_says_a.html Hopefully they're just waiting until after the combine... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 I don’t think Schefter really said anything there. His guys in Buffalo wouldn’t confirm it? No ****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 With all the talent we traded last year, we better be moving up. I would certainly hope the reason we did those things was to assure we get the QB we want. I expect us to be drafting inside the top 5. I will be mad if we don’t actually. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t think Schefter really said anything there. His guys in Buffalo wouldn’t confirm it? No ****! I haven't lost hope by any means yet. Its still very very early in the process. Beane and McDermott are too calculated to be ready to trade up for a QB without fully vetting him, or even meeting him yet in some cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: With all the talent we traded last year, we better be moving up. I would certainly hope the reason we did those things was to assure we get the QB we want. I expect us to be drafting inside the top 5. I will be mad if we don’t actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Hey, at least I didn't start a new thread for it, right? lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: I haven't lost hope by any means yet. Its still very very early in the process. Beane and McDermott are too calculated to be ready to trade up for a QB without fully vetting him, or even meeting him yet in some cases. All that Allbright said is that they were calling around to discuss comp for moving into top 10. It’s never too early for that. Edited March 2, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: All that Allbright said is that they were calling around to discuss comp for moving into top 10. It’s never too early for that. True. And I agree. I think it was Schefter saying that "they have not been engaged in any talks to move up in the draft" that made me question the Albright report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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