BringBackFergy Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I did a google search and was surprised no "expert insiders" or journalists have touched on the Marrone Coaching Tree but it is pretty impressive. Not sure why we are looking for offensive coordinators that aren't, at least, genetically related to those coaches, ex-players or front office personnel who have worked with Doug Marrone. I'm in favor of bringing in Nate Hackett for a dinner and discussion of how he would turn our offense around. Not saying he gets the job but if he did, I like the fact that he has matured into one of the bright young minds of the NFL. I think a lot of that has to do with his coaching with Doug Marrone. His stint in Buffalo was akin to a young apprentice who learned how to sweat solder a pipe...it looked messy the first few times but after a bunch of tries, it is clean, strong and reliable. Not to mention the others who have shown success given their association with Doug Marrone...Jim Schwartz has a limb on the coaching tree all to himself. Look what he did with the Eagles. How about Tom Coughlin's work with the Jags this season. Not sure he'd have pulled any of that off without Marrone (or also with Hackett). Some other players, coaches who are branches off the Marrone tree would include Sean Payton and Todd Bowles who have shown promise, success, and an ability to maintain a high level of performance from his players. Like I said, some may not agree with the Hackett idea for OC/Asst Head Coach, but when you have a head coach who has taken one team to the brink of playoffs and another new team into the second round of the playoffs, maybe we should look for acorns from that tree (The Marrone Coaching Tree), rather than the broken branches from other older, rotted out trees (Belichick tree, Parcells tree, Shanahan tree). 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 My only real concern about bringing Hackett back would be that I don't think we want McDermott worried about the competition for HC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Hackett? Yuck You saw that offense Here and Jags. Don't tell me about #1 rushing team, that's just being stubborn and running too much. Their star rookie RB averaged less than 4 ypc. I don't know about his coaching tree, amd I will give you Marrone is a decent/good coach, but Hackett blows as an OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I hope this is a joke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 yes i watched that high powered Jaguars offensive attack on sunday and i was like wow i wish we could grab some of that magic for our own team 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 Just now, ndirish1978 said: I hope this is a joke Uhhh, no. A joke would be Rick Dennison staying on. You can't question the success Marrone has enjoyed and that is due, in part, to the coaches he has surrounded himself with...all are branches forming his own coaching tree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I would rather have my eyeballs pried from my skull with a fork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 No thanks, I'll pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Not sure you can put Schwartz, who had already been a DC and HC before him, on Marrone's "coaching tree". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 minute ago, simool said: I would rather have my eyeballs pried from my skull with a fork. I'd rather watch our team play another week in the playoffs....Marrone is Just now, JohnBonhamRocks said: Not sure you can put Schwartz, who had already been a DC and HC before him, on Marrone's "coaching tree". Any coach or front office guy that Marrone has worked with this year or in the past belongs on the tree...can't pick and choose which branches are real...they all grow from his roots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Haslett_Stomp said: No thanks, I'll pass. Hackett sure didn't. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 minute ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Not sure you can put Schwartz, who had already been a DC and HC before him, on Marrone's "coaching tree". Where did he blossom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 minute ago, BringBackFergy said: I'd rather watch our team play another week in the playoffs....Marrone is Not due to any sort of skill on his part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I apologize in advance is this a little off topic, but I really don't think it is. This would be a nice opportunity for McDermott and Beane to actually consider hiring a coach who isn't white. The Rooney Rule was put in place for a reason and McD's and Beane's hiring practices pretty much violate the spirit of the Rooney Rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Gugny said: I apologize in advance is this a little off topic, but I really don't think it is. This would be a nice opportunity for McDermott and Beane to actually consider hiring a coach who isn't white. The Rooney Rule was put in place for a reason and McD's and Beane's hiring practices pretty much violate the spirit of the Rooney Rule. Got any candidates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: I'd rather watch our team play another week in the playoffs....Marrone is Any coach or front office guy that Marrone has worked with this year or in the past belongs on the tree...can't pick and choose which branches are real...they all grow from his roots. NO. This is absolutely not true. The freaking guy was a HEAD COACH before working under Marrone. You're delusional dude. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Any coach or front office guy that Marrone has worked with this year or in the past belongs on the tree...can't pick and choose which branches are real...they all grow from his roots. Okay, so Wade Phillips is part of Sean McVay's coaching tree. Got it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: I apologize in advance is this a little off topic, but I really don't think it is. This would be a nice opportunity for McDermott and Beane to actually consider hiring a coach who isn't white. The Rooney Rule was put in place for a reason and McD's and Beane's hiring practices pretty much violate the spirit of the Rooney Rule. Does it apply to coordinators or just HC and GM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Does it apply to coordinators or just HC and GM? Everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Does it apply to coordinators or just HC and GM? So what you’re saying is that you should only interview minority candidates when mandated by the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Just now, Cripple Creek said: So what you’re saying is that you should only interview minority candidates when mandated by the league? No. I was asking if the rule applied only to HC and GM because the language says 'head coach and senior football operations positions', and the Bills' opening is for OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 ..I would MUCH prefer Buddy Hackett.....oh wait................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Gugny said: Everybody. Nope. I thought do too but @simool posted a link proving me wrong Edited January 12, 2018 by ndirish1978 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Nope. I thought do too but @simool posted a link proving me wrong Yeah, I saw that. So McD and Beane can continue on with their "hiring practices." Good stuff!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Putting Schwartz on the Maroon coaching "tree" is a huge insult to Schwartz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 37 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: I'd rather watch our team play another week in the playoffs....Marrone is Any coach or front office guy that Marrone has worked with this year or in the past belongs on the tree...can't pick and choose which branches are real...they all grow from his roots. Clearly you don't know how a coaching tree works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) Doug Marrone has a coaching tree. Since when? more like a twig Edited January 12, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Ray Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, Gugny said: Yeah, I saw that. So McD and Beane can continue on with their "hiring practices." Good stuff!! I guess Leslie Frazier pulled the wool over their eyes! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 16 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Putting Schwartz on the Maroon coaching "tree" is a huge insult to Schwartz. What was Schwartz before coaching for Marrone? Oh, you mean the Detroit Lions perennial 8-8 teams? Take a look at his work after he joined ranks with Marrone. The branches extend far and you are like the neighbor that wants to chop them off because they hang over the driveway. Marrone's coaching tree can't be chopped and pruned to serve your own purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdjr85 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 53 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Not sure you can put Schwartz, who had already been a DC and HC before him, on Marrone's "coaching tree". Shawartz worked with belichick a long long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach55 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 This is like trying to claim that Perry Fewell (Jags DB coach for 2017) should fall under the Marrone coaching tree. The guy has been coaching for 30 years and this is the first year under Marrone. He does not qualify as growing up under Marrone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I appreciate the joke, but so many people just going right along like it's serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: What was Schwartz before coaching for Marrone? Oh, you mean the Detroit Lions perennial 8-8 teams? Take a look at his work after he joined ranks with Marrone. The branches extend far and you are like the neighbor that wants to chop them off because they hang over the driveway. Marrone's coaching tree can't be chopped and pruned to serve your own purposes. If you want to put Schwartz on the Bill Belichick or Jeff Fisher trees, that makes sense. Giving Maroon any credit at all for Jim Schwartz is a joke. Edited January 12, 2018 by Freddie's Dead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Hackett sure didn't. Well played! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Marrone may have put "the lumber" to Schwartz but I'm not sure qualifies as being part of his tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manbeast Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Gugny said: I apologize in advance is this a little off topic, but I really don't think it is. This would be a nice opportunity for McDermott and Beane to actually consider hiring a coach who isn't white. The Rooney Rule was put in place for a reason and McD's and Beane's hiring practices pretty much violate the spirit of the Rooney Rule. Our D coordinator is Lesslie Frazier not Frazier Crane. He's black not that color should matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, manbeast said: Our D coordinator is Lesslie Frazier not Frazier Crane. He's black not that color should matter. Couldn't agree more. Terry Pegula is a smart man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Gugny said: I apologize in advance is this a little off topic, but I really don't think it is. This would be a nice opportunity for McDermott and Beane to actually consider hiring a coach who isn't white. The Rooney Rule was put in place for a reason and McD's and Beane's hiring practices pretty much violate the spirit of the Rooney Rule. Let's get the best coach for the job. I don't care if he is green, purple, black or white! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said: Let's get the best coach for the job. I don't care if he is green, purple, black or white! Agreed. I just want the best person for the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 My favorite disciple of the Marrone tree is Sean Payton. Too bad he's not available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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