Klaista2k Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 These guys have completely ruined this team. McDermott is supposed to be a "defensive specialist" yet the defense has been historically bad. I think it's time to start talking new coach and GM in Buffalo. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Come on. After all the process talk, you can't fire either of them 10 weeks into season one. It cant, wont and shouldn't happen. I know tension is high, but firing them would be incredibly stupid. Dennision, sure. McD and Beane? Nope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 What Terry should do is give them each a 5 year guaranteed contract. Bouncing from one regime to another is no way to improve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 In another thread a couple of weeks ago, I asked whose idea were these hires. Why has ownership not hired a football czar, somebody who knows something. Carolina did not want these guys running things, so the Buffalo ownership thought they were smarter? Hasn't the Sabres situation proved ownership otherwise? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I think the QB change was an epic fail. Pretty embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Come on. After all the process talk, you can't fire either of them 10 weeks into season one. It cant, wont and shouldn't happen. I know tension is high, but firing them would be incredibly stupid. Dennision, sure. McD and Beane? Nope. I agree with this, McD and Beane are definitely not going to get fired, Dennison could be in play but I would be against it as well. We have got to stop this knee jerk crap. Stay the course. Get the personnel. The important question is do they have the vision right? I am not sure we have it on Offense. We all know Dennison was not McD's first choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) Wish we would've hired Sean McVay. Edited November 20, 2017 by Klaista2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Fire everyone! Rabble rabble rabble! Trust the process!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Come on. After all the process talk, you can't fire either of them 10 weeks into season one. It cant, wont and shouldn't happen. I know tension is high, but firing them would be incredibly stupid. Dennision, sure. McD and Beane? Nope. It wont happen, but it should happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just now, billsfan11 said: It wont happen, but it should happen No it should not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Didn't trading Watkins, Woods, Goodwin, Ragland, Darby, Gilmour and Dareus for unproven draft choices prove anything. Starting Peterman? After 3-5 years of this along with our defensive genius, will you still be watching Bills football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crowing Rooster Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, wppete said: Is there some sort of petition we can sign? Or the Pegulas email? How do we get these guys fired? Give them some more rope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Please stop with this bull s . He made a decision today that didn't work out. We will NEVER GET BETTER if we keep changing coaches. Sorry there is no instant gratification in rebuilding a team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Foreigner said: Carolina did not want these guys running things, so the Buffalo ownership thought they were smarter? You REALLY do not need to recreate history to prove your point.... just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just now, BillsEnthusiast said: No it should not. Disagree. What makes you think the Bills are on the right track? Do they have 5 good players on this team? They traded all their players for virtually nothing. They have to completely hit on the 2018/2019 drafts to be a respectful team. They are almost like an expansion team. Sooo far away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Yeah, because changing coaches every 2-3 years has DEFINITELY been the recipe for success for the last 17 years! Go home, troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Foreigner said: Didn't trading Watkins, Woods, Goodwin, Ragland, Darby, Gilmour and Dareus for unproven draft choices prove anything. Starting Peterman? After 3-5 years of this along with our defensive genius, will you still be watching Bills football. Watkins - doing nothing of interest in LA. Woods - ditto. Cooper Kupp and Tayvon Austin run the show. Goodwin - occasional long ball score, just like here. Ragland - is not on the field at all Darby - hurt Gilmore - benched because he blows Dareus - good player with a massive contract and little return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 No No No. I'M sick and tired of knee jerk reaction fans. Yes these last 3 games have been unbearable. But we have to give Sean and Brandon 3 full years. No more firings every other year. There will be many more changes and releases to come. We have to wisely hit on these draft picks. No doubt QB and Oline will be top priorities. Who knows if Rico survives? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, billsfan11 said: Disagree. What makes you think the Bills are on the right track? Do they have 5 good players on this team? They traded all their players for virtually nothing. They have to completely hit on the 2018/2019 drafts to be a respectful team. They are almost like an expansion team. Sooo far away Then why change coaches? Let them finish what they started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 the McBeane show gets 3 full years for better or worse. Probably worse, the D is completely in over their heads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I think a defensive 60 burger in KC and 70 burger at home versus NE would actually get them fired. I joke but.......holysh*t I didn't even know the dumpster fire could produce btu's like this. That Pegula natural gas is some GOOOOD SH*T! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Watkins - doing nothing of interest in LA. Woods - ditto. Cooper Kupp and Tayvon Austin run the show. Goodwin - occasional long ball score, just like here. Ragland - is not on the field at all Darby - hurt Gilmore - benched because he blows Dareus - good player with a massive contract and little return. Kupp and Austin run the show? Have you watched a rams game this year? More like Gurley, Goff, Woods and then Kupp for most valuable on that offence. Austin is like their 4th receiver.... Edited November 20, 2017 by billsfan11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) McD should go no where! Not sure why Beane should be safe in all honesty. What did we expect by letting basically all of our former 1st and 2nd rd picks walk for next to nothing? We have had holes in the past as all teams do right? But I have never seen a Buffalo Bills team with this many holes since the early 80's. The only strength when not in injury hell right now are WR and maybe D secondary. Edited November 20, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Then why change coaches? Let them finish what they started. Why wait 3 years to realize you made a mistake? Mark my words. Beane and Mcd don't have it Edited November 20, 2017 by billsfan11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiostyle Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 This seems premature, and even I think this decision by McDermott was was a massive embarrassment. I hate the trading of talent for picks as a concept to build a team. Emulating the Brown's is something no one should do. PS see how well that's working for them. All together they are now playing as well as I expected at the start of the year. How they won 5 to begin with is still shocking to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagne591 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 No way you fire McD at this point. I like what he is doing. We needed to shake things up a bit. Fire Dennison yes, he was a bad hire anyway. But not McD and Beane. I for one am tired of the status quo and that is all we are going to get without a legit QB and Taylor is not the answer. We had to see what Petterman had and I think he should start again next week as well. If you honestly think we are going to win with Taylor you are wrong. He is a glorified back up QB just like Fitz was coming in here. We need a franchise guy and if that means we suck for a few years so he can develop then we suck I am ready for it. But in our current state we are just this average. So I say lose out get a top 10 pick put some picks together if that is number 1 this year and next for our guy at QB then we do it. We need one of the elites at the position. If we do it now, we can let Brady enjoy his last couple of years then it would be our time to pounce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dezertbill Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Not sure why Beane should be safe in all honesty. What did we expect by letting basically all of our former 1st and 2nd rd picks walk for next to nothing? We have had holes in the past as all teams do right? But I have never seen a Buffalo Bills team with this many holes since the early 80's. The only strength when not in injury hell right now are WR and maybe D secondary. It's called planning for the future as well as today. We didn't just give up a bunch of talent. We received a number of picks. Also Benjamin is under contract through next season. Beane wasn't focused solely on this year. If the Bills were 3-7 and were losing from week 1 we would be talking about the rebuilding process. Because we actually experienced some success and now that's left us everyone is calling for everyone to be fired including the PA announcer. Thank God you people aren't running this franchise. We would have had 5 new GM's and 5 new Coaches already this year alone. Take a valium and chill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mrbojanglezs Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 That'll fix it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 This is a rebuilding year, they haven't even had an offseason together yet. Lets see how they do next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Byrd Man Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 21 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I think the QB change was an epic fail. Pretty embarrassing I have concerns with this staff. We are beyond the halfway point and they haven't realized that Jordan Mills and Vlad Ducasse suck. And Dennison is clueless as well. The Bills are playing the worst run D in the league, but they have elite pass rushers and other than one drive the plan seems to be to throw the ball. I think Peterman could have called a better game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 20 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Watkins - doing nothing of interest in LA. Woods - ditto. Cooper Kupp and Tayvon Austin run the show. Goodwin - occasional long ball score, just like here. Ragland - is not on the field at all Darby - hurt Gilmore - benched because he blows Dareus - good player with a massive contract and little return. Woods his having the best year of his career and so is Goodwin but who needs facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, dezertbill said: It's called planning for the future as well as today. We didn't just give up a bunch of talent. We received a number of picks. Also Benjamin is under contract through next season. Beane wasn't focused solely on this year. If the Bills were 3-7 and were losing from week 1 we would be talking about the rebuilding process. Because we actually experienced some success and now that's left us everyone is calling for everyone to be fired including the PA announcer. Thank God you people aren't running this franchise. We would have had 5 new GM's and 5 new Coaches already this year alone. Take a valium and chill. Bills fans are already beyond chill mode. You really think that our 6 picks that will be rookies (whom could easily flop) will fix our LB core, QB, O-line, RB depth, and D-Line? Time will tell I guess. I'm not going anywhere, I've been here this long. Edited November 20, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: Woods his having the best year of his career and so is Goodwin but who needs facts ok, so 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just now, Real McCoy said: Bills fans are already beyond chill mode. You really think that our 6 picks that will be rookies whom (could easily flop) will fix our LB core, QB, O-line, RB depth, and D-Line? Time will tell I guess. I'm not going anywhere, I've been here this long. We are building a team for long term success. This isnt' about 17 or 18. If you want to already label next year's draft picks as flops that's on you. Way to be positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Will this lot be given less than two full seasons? Will Jason La Canfora tweet rumors that they will be fired moments before a critical game next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 This defense is worse then the Chan Gailey years. I already can’t wait for this guy to be fired 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 The NFL is a now league. You say "long term success". The only long term success is Belichick and Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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